User talk:Marcopolo

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Thank you for dropping by. As you can see, I still have the original Wikipedia Welcome Mat out. I registered back in July 2004, as best I can recall, but a dispute with my ISP put me off line here at home for about 15 months, so in a sense I've been traveling and haven't had the chance to sort out this page or my user page, at least as of December 2005.

Being back on line, at least for the present, I will be making better use of all this, as well as hopefully finally actually contributing a few articles and such.

In as much as the standard welcome message has useful links and such, I expect to just leave it as is.

But please leave a message at the bottom of the page and I will try think of a reply. Marcopolo 03:33, 11 December 2005 (UTC)


Welcome!

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  • 11 July 2004 The original reason I created this account was to add to the Wikipedia and excerpt from an article I was writing for myself to be posted, sent or shared elsewhere. The excerpt was a brief and fanciful history of the Wikipedia that I have placed in the Wikipedia under the title 'An imaginary history of the Wikipedia'."
Wikipedia is not a free wiki host, it is an encyclopedia. That article does not fit in an encyclopedia, and will be deleted from the main article space. You are however free to create it as a subpage of your own user page, ie User:Marcopolo/An imaginary history of the Wikipedia in your user space.
Since I wrote it, I'm figuring there's no copyright issues related to me contributing it involved. And as far as anyone else revising it or using it, well the copyright and use policies of the most merciful and magnificent Wikipedia are posted somewhere in the Wikipedia, aren't they? If this is a bit awkward, it's my first attempt at this. Thanks again."
Text you write is automatically copyrighted by you, and you can contribute it to wikipedia under the GFDL without any problems. Thue | talk 14:33, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)


  • Just wanted to let you know that as another not quite ex-journalist I very much agree with what you have said about Seigenthaler. And Phillips for that matter.
His article might as well end with him getting canonized. This whole thing is about much more than Wikipedia. And we are too broadminded to take our own side. Daniel Case 23:02, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
If by 'canonized' you mean 'shot out of a canon', well, we can only hope. Thank you very much for taking the time to read my postings and to comment on them. I am sure you know how reassuring it is to learn that someone reads something you have written. I have been kind of stimulated by the whole bru ha ha, to the point of getting a bit tired of myself about it. As it happens I am writting something with a bit of length to it about the thing, so I may not have much else to add elsewhere for a while. (Oh, wait, I had a thought.) At any rate, my thinking as of now is that I will put a lengthier something or other on my user page in maybe a week or ten days. That may prove to be interesting development, or at least entertaining, or possibly not. So drop back by eventually and check it out. Marcopolo 03:33, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] re: Above My Station

You're very welcome to contribute. See my subsequent edit; I added HTML comments to seperate the lists in edit mode, and removed an apparently duplicate list with a different date. // Pathoschild 04:04, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Response

I've responded on my user page--just lettin' you know here. --EngineerScotty 19:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Semi-automated link sorting

[edit] NJ state bill

Interesting... and disturbing. Do you have any idea how this is likely to fare? When the threat of ISP liability was broached in 1996, the telcos and major service providers (who do have a powerful lobby), raised hell--the result was Section 230.

Of course, I'm not so naive to think that Verizon, AT&T, etc. are so noble to fight for our rights. Were they to be protected, but only content providers targeted, I'm sure their objections would vanish. The definition of Internet service provider currrently in the bill appears to include telcos, but that can be fixed.

Of course, the bill raises practical questions:

  • Could someone sue Wikipedia? It doesn't have any operations in New Jersey, but it's reachable there. Given it's non-profit nature, it may be hard to conclude that Wikipedia "does business" in New Jersey (a prerequisite for suing an out-of-state actor).
  • What are "reasonable precautions"? Is a simple (unchecked) what's'-your-name-and-address form sufficient? Or does a website operator have to get credit card numbers or some other bit of data that's harder to forge or falsify? What if a website does take "reasonable precautions", a user libels somebody, and it's soon discovered that his name and address are fake?
  • What of the CDA? Clearly, this bill poses constitutional issues regarding separation of powers, and Federal regulation of telecommunications in particular. OTOH, that may be the point--this law is passed, gets tossed out by some (ahem) "activist" judge, and that becomes the rationale for federal action.
  • What hurdle need be met for a (potential) plaintiff to get a name and address from a content provider? Simply saying "I wuz defamed!"? A pending lawsuit? A court order?
  • What about 1st Amendment concerns? Does a right to anonymous speech exist? (In the past, the courts have generally suggested that the answer is yes).

Keep me posted. I'm on the other coast, so I don't hear much from NJ... --EngineerScotty 05:02, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Hello!

Hi there. I've just joined up on Wikipedia and have run across your username a few times on topics that are of some interest to me. You see, I'm writing my law school thesis on the application of CDA 230(c)(1) to Wikipedia. You seem to be involved in the discussion surrounding the Seigenthaler incident as well. For my paper, I'm trying to find out what Wikipedia policies changed as a result of that controversy. Do you know? In any event, I look forward to conversing with you some in the coming weeks. Regards. --Ksm10 21:30, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

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