User talk:Marckd

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[edit] For future reference...

If you think an article can be referred to by two separate names, such as WSUS 102.3 and WSUS FM, creating a second article which is a copy of the first article is a bad idea.

Instead, you should create the second article as a redirect to the first article, thusly:

#redirect [[Name of first article]].

No harm done; this is just so you know for next time. DS 15:35, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WFGX

User:Mario500 has reverted your edits to the article above. He has reason to believe they do not reflect his research. Please respond where I have brought up a similar issue at User talk:Mario500, citing sources if you wish to stand by your version. Or, use Talk:WFGX. DO NOT simply restore your edits to the article, as that is not the Wiki way. If you don't wish to fight an edit war over your edits, ignore this message. Morgan Wick 03:43, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] In General

Your edits and additions to television articles have been both poorly worded and redundant. If your writing style does not improve, then you should refrain from contributing. Rollosmokes 04:40, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] On WTXX

As I mentioned before on the talk page (which you obviously did not read), we don't need to list specific show titles, or break down the schedule time slot by time slot. The rest of your additions are redundant and unnecessary; the previous writings were fine as they are.

Unless you're going to add relevant new info, stop editing this article unnecessarily. Rollosmokes 15:54, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] John Roberts & Sam Alito

Have removed some speculative information that they will be 100 % conservative like Scalia or Thomas. Their rulings thus far have not given indications to their true ideology. Lets see how they vote on some more cases before dismissing them as possible swing votes. Keep in mind, when Anthony Kennedy joined the US Supreme Court in 1988, conservatives by 1990 said "Bork could not have done better". In fact his votings with Scalia were even higher than Alito or Roberts. He evolved somewhat. From rulings thus far it seems that Alito and Roberts could be closer to Anthony Kennedy than Scalia. There is evidence to argue both ways. Now lets see how this year goes before speculating too far. By the way I am a moderately liberal Democrat and anti-Bush.

[edit] WWOR-TV and WTXX (again)

You seem to have a jones for these two articles (and WPSG as well). Well, your continued vandalism, both through your actual screenname and your various IP addresses, is growing tiresome. Your insistence in unnecessary changes and adding redundant and needless information can be considered as a violation of WP:POINT. The information as it is written on all three of these articles is FINE AS IT IS. There is NO NEED to continue to add TOO MUCH USELESS INFORMATION and to make TRIVIAL CHANGES. If you continue to change these articles, I will report you to an administrator. Rollosmokes 16:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] WTXX

You state that the LMA with WVIT was only in force from 10 p.m. to 1 a.m. This is an innacurate statement. When WTXX was sold to Catholic Counterpoint Communications on March 19, 1993, Renaissance retained the rights to ALL THE PROGRAMMING. Some of the barter cartoons were returned to syndicators and off the air in the market upon closing. They did want a full time LMA with WTXX. But COunterpoint wanted only part-time time brokerage agreements. SO in good faith Counterpoint was allowed to run Disney Afternoon, Cosby, and Growing Pains from 3 to 7 PM for free. WTIC-TV would sell ad time and give WTXX no compensation for it. In addition from March 22-26 and March 29-April 2, WTXX was also running the syndicated Wild West miniseries from 8 to 10 PM. This gave WTXX free programming and WTIC TV ad-time and money. Meanwhile, WTXX and WTIC-TV began trying to negotiate a long-term 4 to 8 hour a day LMA. WTIC-TV insisted on at least 15 hours a day. AT the end of June talks broke off and WVIT approached WTXX about an LMA including a newscast and family friendly shows. WTXX then broke off talks with WTIC-TV and in fact WTIC-TV tried to take Counterpoint to court for failing to negotiate in good faith. The court sided with Counterpoint. It was at that point that the Renaissance-owned shows WTXX ran would move to WTIC-TV. This was in July. (now this is a bit too detailed to include and your streamlined sentences are FINE).

In Mid July of 1993 Viacom began an LMA with WTXX. This would include a 10 PM newscast daily. Also it included cartoons that would be run 7 to 9 AM Monday thru Friday, 7 to 10 AM Saturday and Sunday, 3 to 7 PM Monday thru Friday. Yes cartoons ran until 7 PM on the station on weekdays. This was quite notable. WTXX was probably the only station anywhere running cartoons that late in the day. My sources include articles from Hartford Courant and TV Guides from that time period. Half the cartoons were previously aired on WTXX under Renaissance but truned into the syndicator the March before. Contracts on these cartoons did not allow resting. WVIT got the rights of these cartoons to run on WTXX.

WTXX did take UPN programming in March of 1995 but was NOT yet branded UPN 20. They did run it in pattern and skipped evening HSN programming on such nights. The LMA between WTXX and WVIT did not become full-time until March of 1996. That was when WTXX was branded UPN 20 and got stronger syndicated shows. They did NOT reacquire shows. These shows did NOT previously air on WTXX back in 1993 or before. At that point the cartoons ended at 5 or 5:30 PM. Also HSN programs did fall off the schedule.

In 1999 WTXX was moved from its Waterbury facilities into new facilities with new LMA partner WTIC-TV.

Now you insist the LMA did not include the 7 to 9 AM or 3 to 7 PM time slot when it did indeed. I think it was notable that cartoons aired until 7 PM on weeknights. But I am willing to just refer to the 3 to 7 PM and 7 to 9 AM as syndicated programming. But I insist on acknowledging that 3 to 7 PM weekdays be noted in the article.

I also insist it was not until the spring of 1996 that WTXX began to market itself again and run better programming. These things mentioned happened all at the same time in spring of 1996. Home Shopping Network prtogramming was a large part of WTXX scheduling for 3 years. The deal between HSN and Counterpoint called for at least half the day being HSN. So I insist that it was Spring of 1996 NOT Fall of 1995 such changes were made. I have TV Guides from these dates to Prove it.

I will give you a promise though. Other than the following words, I will not add anything more on this issue:

Here is what I feel must be included: 1. WTXX entered into an LMA with WIVT in July of 1993

2. Timeslots programmed were 7 to 9 a.m., 3 to 7 p.m. and 10 p.m. to 1 a.m. which inclued a 10 p.m. newscast and syndicated shows. (would prefer to state that the syndicated shows were cartoons until 7 p.m. but do not insist on that)

3. State that the LMA expoanded to full-time in the Spring of 1996 and at that point WTXX dropped HSN and ran stronger shows.

4. I believe that WTXX was not branded UPN 20 until Spring of 1996 but was a UPN affiliate prior to branding. I can prove dates they became UPN affiliated but TV guides had no articles with WTXX 20 graphics in any of the issues. WTXX was not marketed much until 1996. UPN 20 articles began to appear in TV Guide in May of 1996. Still this is insufficient proof as to when branding began. Therefore I will concede about excluding when WTXX was branded UPN 20. Fair enough?

In closing I am not looking to get into a longtime editing war with anoyone, but want relevant info included.

[edit] WWOR

For awhile there was lot of contention on this writing. But now most of my beefs with this one have been solved. Still two have not and they are simple.

1. Cartoons WERE ADDED 7 DAYS a WEEK in the MORNINGS in 1987. Have TV Guides to prove it.

2. All religious shows except for the Mass were DROPPED. I FEEL THIS SHOULD BE MENTIONED. In fact you yourself mentioned that in the early 70's all kids shows except for Romper Room were dropped. So if that could be acknowledged, the religious shows being dropped should be as well. In fact, my wording about religious shows in 1987 was very similar to your wording about kids shows back in 1973 or so.

Now I have a TV Guide NY Metro from January 16-22, 1988 You should be aware of WWOR's listings for weekends. If not here is what it is

Saturday January 16, 1988

5 AM HOME SHOPPING NETWORK VARIETY SHOW

6 AM HEADLINE NEWS

6:30 COMIC STRIP-Cartoon 2&1/2 hours

9 AM SUPERMAN-Adventure 1 hour

10 AM AMERICA'S TOP 10

10:30 FAN CLUB

11 AM WWF WRESTLING

So cartoons did indeed run until 9 AM and NO RELIGION

Sunday January 17, 1988

5 AM HOME SHOPPING NETWORK VARIETY SHOW

6 AM MEET THE MAYORS-Interview

6:30 ITS YOUR BUSINESS-Discussion

7 AM POINT OF VIEW-Interview

7:30 CHURCH SERVICE- Catholic (ONLY RELIGIOUYS SHOW)

8 AM FANTASTIC WORLD-Cartoon - 2 Hours

10 AM JETSONS-Cartoon

10:30 BUGS AND DAFFY-Cartoons

11 AM THREE STOOGES -Comedy 1 hour

So only the Mass was religious. Point Of View was NOT. cartoons also aired 8 to 11 AM. And yes there were no religious shows Sunday evenings either. Movies aired till 10 PM followed by news and then syndicated shows.

So all religious shows except for Mass were gone in the Fall of 1987.

[edit] I'm Telling You For the Last Time

It is my belief that your additions to WWOR-TV, WTXX, and WPSG are filled with: 1) redundancies; and 2) needless, useless over-information that does not bring anything to the article.

Examples:

  • WWOR-TV: you continue to insist on your rewriting the paragraph detailing the changes made to the station during 1987-88. The text as it was previously written keeps the details simple, and they do not need to be further explained. Also, the information is inaccurate -- WWOR retained other religious programs on Sundays other than the Catholic Mass. They still ran Oral Roberts, The Hour of Power, and (if I can correctly recall) Day of Discovery and/or The World Tomorrow for a while after the ownership change/programming overhaul.
  • WTXX: at this point, it really isn't necessary to list ALL of the time periods when WTXX ran syndicated programming during its post-Renaissance days, during the HSN/WVIT LMA period. This information is unnecessary. Once again, the text as it is written keeps the details simple.
  • WPSG: the lines about the NBC/New World pursuit of WCAU-TV DO NOT BELONG in this article, as it had absolutely NOTHING TO DO with WGBS-TV -- it was separate from Fox's attempt to buy the station. And the text was ripped verbatim from WCAU, which doesn't make it exactly original. All your other changed in regards to this paragraph were completely unnecessary.

I REALLY HOPE this is the last time I have to tell you about this. Please do not provoke me to seek administrative assistance if you continue to violate WP:POINT. Rollosmokes 17:34, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WWOR

SORRY -- WWOR stopped running every last show YOU MENTIONED --- by the end of September 1987 - Have TV Guides TO PROVE IT - Not to mention old newspapars in the libraries -

However, as a MCA owned station from April to September they DID run these shows. But after the OVERHAUL these shows WERE GONE!!!! After the ownership change they did run those shows as I said repeatedly before. Weekday and weekend religious shows were dropped at the same time. At least admit when I am right!!!! I am standing by this statement -- NOTHING PERSONAL

CARTOONS ALSO RAN DAILY!!!! Also listings I have all prove it. Want copies??? I will be happy to mail them to you.... I am RIGHT on this one...Just like the sitcom issue you conceded with me on. Why do you make me have to pull teeth so hard??? Come on, havent you anything better to do??? If you do not niether do I. I am holding out on this one. Dont make me have to pull out a September 1987 TV Guide!!! I will if you insist.

[edit] WTXX

Either include the entire hours the LMA is included or do not include anything on it except for the fact it was part-time. Again you seem as emotionally attactched to these things as I do. Come on concede on something.

Once again, refer back to my last statement on this issue. I have already sought administrative assistance in hopes of avoiding an all-out edit war. Rollosmokes 03:45, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Revert wars

Hi Marckd,

Please do not engage in edit wars. Recent activity on WWOR-TV indicates you have reverted to your version four times within a 24 hour period, which violates Wikipedia's policy on reverting. Although it is clear you feel strongly about the data you're including, Wikipedia strictly forbids this type of behavior. Many administrators will block users for violating WP:3RR. As I don't want to block you, perhaps you can come to a comprmise with Rollosmokes? If no compromise if forthcoming, perhaps you could seek a second opinion? Whatever you do, be sure to keep a level head. If you plan to work on TV station articles, you're bound to encounter Rollosmokes often, so it just makes sense to try to work with, rather than against, other TV station editors, right? Best wishes, Firsfron of Ronchester 07:08, 27 October 2006 (UTC)



[edit] WWOR AGAIN

For awhile there was lot of contention on this writing. But now most of my beefs with this one have been solved. Still two have not and they are simple.

1. Cartoons WERE ADDED 7 DAYS a WEEK in the MORNINGS in 1987. Have TV Guides to prove it.

2. All religious shows except for the Mass were DROPPED. I FEEL THIS SHOULD BE MENTIONED. In fact you yourself mentioned that in the early 70's all kids shows except for Romper Room were dropped. So if that could be acknowledged, the religious shows being dropped should be as well. In fact, my wording about religious shows in 1987 was very similar to your wording about kids shows back in 1973 or so.

Now I STILL have a TV Guide NY Metro from January 16-22, 1988 You should be aware of WWOR's listings for weekends. If not here is what it is

Saturday January 16, 1988

5 AM HOME SHOPPING NETWORK VARIETY SHOW

6 AM HEADLINE NEWS

6:30 COMIC STRIP-Cartoon 2&1/2 hours

9 AM SUPERMAN-Adventure 1 hour

10 AM AMERICA'S TOP 10

10:30 FAN CLUB

11 AM WWF WRESTLING

So cartoons did indeed run until 9 AM and NO RELIGION

Sunday January 17, 1988

5 AM HOME SHOPPING NETWORK VARIETY SHOW

6 AM MEET THE MAYORS-Interview

6:30 ITS YOUR BUSINESS-Discussion

7 AM POINT OF VIEW-Interview

7:30 CHURCH SERVICE- Catholic (ONLY RELIGIOUYS SHOW)

8 AM FANTASTIC WORLD-Cartoon - 2 Hours

10 AM JETSONS-Cartoon

10:30 BUGS AND DAFFY-Cartoons

11 AM THREE STOOGES -Comedy 1 hour

So only the Mass was religious. Point Of View was NOT. cartoons also aired 8 to 11 AM. And yes there were no religious shows Sunday evenings either. Movies aired till 10 PM followed by news and then syndicated shows.

So by January of 1988 all religious shows except for Mass were gone. But didnt I claim they were gone sooner??? I DID!!! Now how does an 1988 TV guide prove 1987 claims??? IT DOESNT!!!

So lets rectify that situation - These listings are either week 2 or 3 of the overhaul. This was still transitionary but the overhaul was almost complete. Morton Downy was still not on yet.

Sept 26- Oct 2 - Philadelphia Edition TV Guide - Saturday 5 AM HOME SHOPPING NETWORK VARIETY SHOW

6 AM HEADLINE NEWS

6:30 COMIC STRIP-Cartoon 2&1/2 hours

9 AM SUPERMAN-Adventure 1 hour

10 AM BUCK ROGERS

11 AM WRESTLING

The rest of the day consisted of movies and syndicated shows that aired all night long...NO RELIGIOUS SHOW TO SPEAK OF

Sunday

5 AM MOVIES CONTINUE

6 AM MEET THE MAYORS-Interview

6:30 IN THE BLACK-Public Affairs

7 AM POINT OF VIEW-Interview

7:30 CHURCH SERVICE- Catholic (ONLY ONE OF 2 RELIGIOUS SHOWS LEFT)

8 AM FANTASTIC WORLD-Cartoon - 2 Hours

10 AM JETSONS-Cartoon

10:30 BUGS AND DAFFY-Cartoons

11 AM VOYAGERS

12 NOON GREATEST AMERICAN HERO

SYNDICATED SHOWS AND SPORTS AND MOVIES OCCUPY THE REST OF THE DAY UNTIL 8 PM

8 PM DAN TOMA-Public Affairs (In same studio Morton Downy Would occypy by the way - Note not from TV Giude - Just an editorial statement)

8:30 FACE OFF

9 PM NJ PEOPLE

9:30 9 ON NJ

10 PM IN THE BLACK

10:30 MEET THE MAYORS

11 PM CAROL BURNETT

11:30 WORLD TOMORROW (NOT FOR LONG) This was the second to last airing. One more airing occurred October 4, 1987. Starting October 11 (according to TV Guide) the 8 to 12 Public affairs block WAS GONE and movies were airing in its place) So World Tomorrow remained for a mere 3 weeks. IT WAS STILL CANCELED THAT FALL BY THE TIME MILLION DOLLAR MOVIE WAS CUT TO WEEENDS IN FAVOR OF MORTON DOWNY.

Now my statements are accurate. The fact you accuse me of being wrong is what really angers me now. Its not so much your nitpicking on dozens of other articles (some of which I have NO interest in changing).


[edit] REVERT EDIT POTENTIAL WAR

[edit] WTXX Update

The 1996 issue is resolved to my satisfaction. I still feel it should be noted that the LMA between UPN 20 WTXX and WVIT 30 NBC would become full-time in March of 1996. But I will not pursue that issue further. Still tough I modified the 1993 portion of the edit to reflect the entire time the station was being programmed by WVIT. The statement only including the 10 PM to 1 AM portion of the day still sounds senseless and confusing and misleading. I will between one and two times a day revert to an edit reflecting this and continue to push this portion of my argument until we can resolve this.

And if you continue to do as you say, you will be violating WP:POINT repeatedly. If you revert fully, you'll be coming close to breaking the three-revert rule, which will lead to a block. Please, you're not going to win this war of nitpicking with little details, so just leave it alone and contribute something that is ACTUALLY useful. Rollosmokes 15:04, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WPSG Update

I have no issues with the WPSG reverts. I consider this issue resolved. I will not edit WPSG anymore UNLESS someone posts something innacurate and I catch it first. In that instance I will simply revert to Rollo's edit. Okay?

As issues get resolved I will delete those areas of my talk page. Hopefully I can move on to other discussions besides WTXX and WWOR WOR-TV WWOR-TV or whatever you want to call it.

[edit] WWOR & WTXX November 6, 2006 Update

These two articles still have issues. WTXX's artcile still implies that WTXX ran HSN programming till 10 PM and Syndicated shows from 10:30 to 1 AM. While this is not quite what is said, it still reads in a confusing matter. It would be just easier to just mention the LMA with WVIT and the newscast and leave it at that. It would be easier just not to state times syndicated shows ran at all instead of just a 2 and a half hour period which by the way fluctuated frequently in that time period. At one point HSN began at midnight. The article already stated that WTXX had a few syndicated shows further up in the paragrah. Still that is not quite accurate..see above.

WWOR - SIMPLE AS THIS - ALL RELIGIOUS SHOWS ON WEEKENDS WERE DROPPED UPON THE 1987 overhaul except for the Mass. This is an accurate fact. I have tons of listings to prove this. So stop the nonsense. Don't you have better things to do with your time? I certainly do.

[edit] Bill Clinton trivia

Hello, Marckd. I've removed your trivia about Clinton being first President to serve two full-terms since FDR. You forgot about Eisenhower & Reagan. Clinton was the first Democrat since FDR to serve two full terms. GoodDay 15:33, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

You are RIGHT!!! I did mean the first Democrat President to serve. But hey if its innacurate ...AND IT IS...Removal is fine. Thanks

[edit] Rollosmokes NITPICKING More times than I can count=

I am tired of seeing you edit the same articles time and time again. I just do not mean my own edits but the dozen or so other ones. When innacuracies spring up FINE. But many others make a minor edit or addition here and there and you STILL REVERT. 95 % of these changes are fine as they are, as were most of my edits. Hey at least I know I am not the only one facing the editing Rollosmoke Wrath. I would spend more time on this issue but my time is limited. I am getting tired of seeing your name on so many TV station edits in the NY Metro area and surrounding markets. Unless something is innacurate or too wordy, leave well enough alone.

If you have a problem with my writing and editing style, then leave me a message on my talk page. Or, take me to Request for Comment if you feel that I'm such a disturbance. Otherwise, your continuous rambling will do you no good.

As a wise man once told me, "Don't hate the player, hate the game". Rollosmokes 18:23, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] When intellectual radio properties move dial positions

Initially I believed that when intellectual units swap frequencies that the history of both the broadcast license and the intellectual unit history should be included in both articles. For example when WQHT moved from 103.5 to 97.1 and when WYNY moved from 97.1 to 103.5, I had thought that WQHT's article should include both the history of the 97 license and the history of the WQHT unit. The 103.5 history I thought should include the history of the 1996 to present WKTU unit along with other history of wat aired on 103.5 as well as the pre 1988 history of 97.1.

But after some thought I began thinking that 97.1 New York should be strictly license history of that frequency while providing a link to 103.5's history to find out the history of the WQHT ubit prior to 1988. The 103.5 WKTU artcile should be strictly the history of that license but providing a link to the history of the original 70's/80's WKTU unit and a link 97.1 to find the history of the WYNY intellectual unit.

In most cases, therefore station articles should be about the license history rather than intellectual property history. But I feel there should be some exceptions. In situations 1.) where a frequency swap recently happened and 2.) at least one intellectual unit spent many years on one frequency, both intellectual unit history and license history should be included in both articles for about a year. This way people looking up information will not be confused.

Recently WCRB Boston moved to 99.5 from 102.5 while WKLB moved from 99.5 to 102.5. Because of WCRB's long history of classical music programming, the intellectual property history of WCRB should be included on the WCRB license history as well as the WKLB license history.

WKLB's intellectual unit had several originations. WKLB was the result of a merger of two different similarly formattted radio properties. It also included a previous frequency swap. On the 99.5 WCRB article, the license history of 99.5 should be included and the WKLB intellectual unit should be discussed after its move there in 1997. Previous WKLB unit history is not necessary. On the 102.5 WKLB article, the intellectual unit history of WKLB should be included prior to 1997 as well as after 1997, while 102.5's license history should be included. Eventually, when people get used to the new frequencies, the articles should be respective license histories. Just my thought for now.

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