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Contents 1 Template overhaul 2 Fantastic Four 3 TV movies 4 Edit on September 25

[edit] Template overhaul

I redid the template so that it was organized a bit better than just tossing all the movies in a box. Some notes:

• Right now, the "Single films" section is a little bare. It'll expand once Ghost Rider, Iron Man, and Ant-Man are released. Films are listed in the order they were released.
• The "Franchises" section is organized by franchise (imagine that!). Priority is given to the franchise with the largest number of released films; further weight is given to the eldest initial film (for example, Blade and X-Men each have three; Blade came out in 1998, while X-Men came out in 2000, so the Blade franchise is shown first). Films that have announced sequels (such as Fantastic Four and Hulk) should be listed in the Franchises section rather than the Single Films section.
• I dropped the release years because that sort of information isn't particularly important in a navigation table. Exceptions:
  • The Punisher movies have the same title, so need a distinguishing characteristic;
  • The In Production movies should (in my opinion) have their pending release date, where it is available. I'm actually fairly apathetic about this one; if someone wanted to remove them, I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
• Movies in the "In Production" section shouldn't affect the weight of their franchise. For example, the X-Men line shouldn't be moved above the Blade line until after the Magneto or Wolverine film is released. Similarly, the Hulk trumps the Fantastic Four until Rise of the Silver Surfer is released.

For those that are curious: before and after.

So... yeah. That's all. EVula 20:03, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Nice--hottie 15:14, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

• Release date is a useless criteria for film ordering. It assumes knowledge of the release dates of the films, and those who don't know them see an unorganised mess.
• Giving certain franchises priority over others is POV, regardless of justification. Alphabetical order is NPOV, and therefore is preferred.
• I agree with your release date criteria.
• Your last point is part of your POV ordering critera, and so is included in bullet 1.

--Jamdav86 19:13, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Wait, what? How is anything that I did POV? I'm giving weight to the franchises with the most films, which is a neutral factor in determining order. Chronological release is a perfectly valid method of ordering; see Template:George Lucas, for example. I'd ask if restoring the release date would satisfy your complaint, but the date not appearing is apparently the only thing we agree on. ;)

I've proded the comics WP folk to weigh in on this. While I disagree with the alphabetical ordering, if the general consensus supports your ordering, I'll back down. EVula 19:38, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough. POV may be a bit strong, but arranging misc. films by release date is a bit confusing.

BTW, Template:George Lucas ties with The Dark Tower as one of the ugliest templates I have ever seen. --Jamdav86 19:44, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

It would appear that we now agree on two things, Jam. ;-) EVula 22:56, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

• Um, sorry to rain on the parade, but this isn't a template, it's a category placed in the wrong name space. Use {{Template:Otherarticles}} instead. Steve block Talk 19:53, 17 September 2006 (UTC) Steve block Talk 19:53, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fantastic Four

Is ther a place here for The Fantastic Four (film)? --Spencer "The Belldog" Bermudez | (Complain here) 15:57, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Added. Although, between this and the first Punisher movie, I'm wondering if there ought to instead be a section for the older one-shot movies, before the franchise was relaunched... EVula 20:09, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TV movies

I'm inclined to not have made-for-TV movies in this template, and restrict to just feature films. Any TV movies should be at Template:Marvel comics TV, not here. Anyone else have an opinion on this? EVula 21:36, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit on September 25

Hi, I rearranged the titles on this template. I put the list into alphabetical order. I moved Spider-Man 3, Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, and Ghost Rider out of the "In Development" section because they are either shooting or in post-production, not in development.

I also added years to all the films that have been given a tentative release date that I could find.