Talk:Marvin Gaye

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Removed this first clause of sentence re: "Here My Dear"

A court ruling in 1976 forced Gaye to record a new album and send the royalties to his ex-wife for missed alimony payments.

This isn't exactly right. Gaye agreed to pay alimony, and also agreed that he would pay the alimony from album royalties. However, the obligation to pay was not contingent on the royalties: it was just an agreed-upon means of payment. If the album didn't make money, he still would have had to pay.

For a fuller explanation, see snopes.com article and sources cited therein.

But the memory and legend of this incredible Motown singer will forever be tainted by the very evils of the world Gaye himself sang and fought against, and paid the price for.

I removed the above for reasons of NPOV. Tuf-Kat 04:39, Jun 11, 2004 (UTC)

Gaye's What's Going On was not the first soul record to explore social and political topics--The Temptations beat him to it with their late-1960s/early-1970s string of "psychedelic soul" albums. Certainly, Gaye went deeper into the subject matter than the Tempts, but the Tempts (or should I say Norman Whitfield) were first. The article has been slightly revised as such. --b. Touch 02:28, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Number of Top 40 singles

I removed this:

By 1965, he had released 39 Top 40 songs for Motown.

How could Gaye have released 42 singles (39 the three early flops) in seven years on Motown? If this is true, we need a list to verify it. --b. Touch 18:02, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Amsterdam

Changed "Amsterdam, Netherlands" to "Ostend, Belgium." Gaye spent several years in Ostend, where he wrote "Sexual Healing". It is documented in the BBC documentary abour his life "Trouble Man", as well as numerous other places (for example [1]). He did not live in Amsterdam (or at least there's no record of it.)

--Deregnaucourt 21:39, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Father's clerical denomination

According to Marvin's brother Frankie in his book Marvin Gaye: My Brother (2003), Marvin Gay, Sr. was a pastor in the Seventh Day Adventists denomination. The previous version of this article had it as "House of God," but the link directed users to an article about a novel of the same name. I corrected the link and noted Frankie Gaye's book in the "Further Reading" section.

Frankie Gay's book doesn't mention the "House of God" at all? It's apparently an obscure sect, perhaps related to the Seventh-Day Adventists. --FuriousFreddy 01:09, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Odd....

I notice from a quick Google that www.onlineseats.com has a page allowing you to "Book Marvin Gaye tickets online", although the biog on the same page acknowleges that he died in 1984.

Oddly there are no concerts listed...

AndyHolyer 11:15, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Featured Music Project evaluation

Marvin Gaye has been evaluated according to the Featured Music Project criteria, most recently affirmed as of this revision. The article's most important issues are listed below. Since this evaluation, the article may have been improved.

The following areas need work to meet the criteria: Pictures - Format/Style - Comprehensiveness
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  • Pictures: Needs fair use rationales
  • Format/Style: Add a summary under "Biography", trim see also and external links
  • References: Probably needs more citations
  • Comprehensiveness: Needs some expansion - relationship with his father is barely discussed, but probably should be, since it ended with his death

[edit] Death

Do we have references for the circumstances of his death? Capitalistroadster 06:33, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

All those books resting in the "References" section cover Gaye's murder in quite some detail. --FuriousFreddy 00:50, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

This: "His best records are still highly regarded, and he is often cited as one of the finest singers of his era." needs to be sourced. Who has said it? Aspern 21:02, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA Re-Review and In-line citations

Note: This article has a small number of in-line citations for an article of its size and subject content. Currently it would not pass criteria 2b.
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[edit] GA Review

The GA review on this page has ended, with a unanimous 3 to 0 consensus to delist. Primary concerns are low amount of references, (It's a long article folks, at least cover most of it) and large amounts of POV violations, especially in the legacy section. Review archived here: Wikipedia:Good articles/Disputes/Archive 8 Homestarmy 18:36, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

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