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[edit] Siryn

Siryn ought to be removed from "status unknown". She's not playable.-Oort1

She's not in the game as far as I have seen.--Dil 23:03, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] psp

they just reveld the last psp exclusive and its black widow not nova

[edit] ps3

I just noticed something. The MUA article lists the PS3 version as being available on November 6, when the PS3 console itself will not be available until November 11 in Japan and November 17 in the US and Canada. How can a game for a system be released 5+ days before the console itself? Is it that the release date for the PS3 version is wrong or that the game for the PS3 is being released ahead of the console itself? I'm missing something here. Vgamer101 22:43, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nightcrawler

On the official website there is a poll. The poll asks for favorite playable characters. Nightcrawler is one of the choices.--Ashslayton 14:35, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

it says that only 3 of the 4 are playable and the others are iceman invisible woman and human torch who have been shown as playable.--Casio100 16:37, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Ooops...you are right. Fixed table. Nightcrawler is an NPC!--Ashslayton 16:23, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Nightcrawler is in the new wii trailer, though no in game shots, if he isn't playable/unlockable then he is the only one in this picture that is unplayable. http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6381/wiitrailerscreenshotwk3.jpg GrantRS 13:47, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Onslaught

Am I reading it wrong again? The official website reveals Onslaught as a new character, doesn't it? I'm assuming villian...--Ashslayton 17:09, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

By "new character onslaught", they meant that they were revealing an onslaught of new characters (if that's what you're referring to).

Steve (sorry, Blackberry's don't have tildes)

Ah...that makes more sense. Guess I was reading it wrong.--Ashslayton 20:53, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Zarathos has been confirmed as a skin for Ghost Rider

Somebody posted some pics of them on the VIP forum. So stop deleting it

Right, because "someone posted a thing in a forum" means that it's instantly true. Until it's officially announced, I don't really see a reason to keep it around.24.217.231.225 21:47, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't know how to post my name after my posts, but it has been stated that each character will have 4 costumes, and all 4 of Ghost Rider's have been revealed: Modern, Classic, Phantom Rider, and Vengeance.


kalina discredited it someone made it them selves the only alternet skin for ghost rider is vengence

[edit] Nova

Nova keeps being listed as a PSP exclusive, but I haven't been able to find any evidence that this is true. There's not citation and he's not listed on any of the VIP pages. -anon

Once again, I don't know how to post my name after my posts, but this review says she's in the PSP version: http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=37698

This also has Ms. Marvel's name as MS. MARVEl and not WARBIRD so I would kindly request that whoever keeps changing it back to Warbird stops.

Assuming Nova is in the game, the link doesn't specify which Nova. Nova-the New Warrior or Nova-Frankie Raye. The link used for Nova should probably be changed to reflect that. -anon

[edit] Moon Knight

Khonshu really shouldn't be listed here. They most likely meant the "Fist of Khonshu" costume Moon Knight wore, and therefore is just another costume for him and not another character. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.209.216.242 (talk • contribs) 00:24, October 16, 2006.

They just gave the name Khonshu, and I think they would have said "Fist of Khonshu" if that's what they ment. This will need clarification, but for now I'd say that Khonshu is an alternate skin. JQF 15:46, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I still say it shouldn't be there. Khonshu's never done any "heroing" and, if I'm not mistaken, has never been depicted outside of shrines, statues, and the like. I'm of the opinion that the situation is too ambiguous and it should be removed until there are pictures confirming whether or not Khonshu is indeed an extra character.

The description of the costume was simply Khonshu. Just saying "Khonshu" would refer to a person called "Khonshu", rather than a different costume. Keep it. Goldenboy|talk|contribs 16:26, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I've got the game and the strategy guide. It's not the god, Khonshu, it's just another Moon Knight costume, his Fist of Khonshu gear, as stated above. Please remove the listing and leave it off, as it is incorrect. 140.185.215.122Steve

I was correct. In the guide, it is definitely not the God, Khonshu. It is most definitely Moon Knight. It needs to be removed. Here is a screenshot of the costume: http://i11.tinypic.com/2cxb02g.jpg.

[edit] Costume

the iron spider is one of spidermans costumes so please leave it


Iron Spider suit is one of them, but it doesn't make Spider-Man a different character, so don't list it, thanks. pho3nixflame69

[edit] Attacks

Does anyone think we should write the playable characters attacks?

I don't think so. Wikipedia isn't a game guide. RobJ1981 23:49, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Universe?

Is this game set in the Marvel Universe? I just saw a preview for it, and while Spider-Man himself looks and sounds regular, Captain America, Thor, and Wolverine are all in their Ultimate continuity costumes. Does this mean the game is set in the Ultimate unverse, or is it just that the character designer liked the ultimate costumes better or something? Tai112 10:19, 18 October 2006 (Eastern)

It's not in the Ultimate Marvel universe...almost none of the locations and very few of the characters mentioned as being in the game are in the Ultimate Universe yet...but the more important distinction: Nick Fury isn't the Samuel L Jackson version, which is kind of a shame. Vignettelante 04:59, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Well, then, that should probably be in the article, to avoid confusion. Tai112 12:19, 19 October 2006 (Eastern)
Alright - added it in under Locations, which makes sense cause it's located in Earth-616. Right? Eh? Eh? Vignettelante 17:37, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Actuallly, we don't know. I suppose you could say it takes place in Earth 616 like X-Men Legends did, but saying it takes place in Earth 616 means it's canon, which nobody has said it is. I've adjusted the bit accordingly. JQF 18:16, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Actually, the X-Men Legends games have their own universe distinction from Marvel.

[edit] Phantom Rider

Phantom Rider is listed as a character when it's one of Ghost Rider's Costume

Although there are some costumes on the list, why is their a disscusion on removing iron spider because it was spider man's costume.
Because Iron Spider is stupid? :) No, really, while Beta Ray Bill and Phantom Rider are classed as alternate costumes in the game, they are actually separate characters. Iron Spider is just an alternate costume, either way. Basically, Iron Spider is Spider-Man, Phantom Rider is not Ghost Rider. So we can list Phantom Rider as a separate character, whereas it doesn't make sense to do so for Iron Spider. Kelvingreen 20:56, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] View to a Kill

Does any one know if Cyclops will be playable. I know he is seen in captured by Doom, but so is Hulk.

    • Gambit as well, however the status is unkown for all three, however they still might be unlockable! But for now they are NPC.

They are not playable. or NPCs. An "evil" cyclops is a boss battle, though.

[edit] Add Captain Marvel, confirmed

He's PSP exclusive, VIP site!

[edit] Add Ms. Marvel

On the letters page in issue #8 of Ms. Marvel released October 18th, they said Ms. Marvel would be in the game. AlexMc 02:02, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Damn, she wasn't listed when I posted this, then was when I looked again. :P AlexMc 02:05, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

She's there, I have the game

[edit] Status of Emma Frost

Does anyone know the status of Emma Frost one way or the other yet? She's been on the list of NPCs in the article for about a week and no one has removed her, yet I can literally find no mention of her anywhere official, unless she's on the VIP site.

Someone added her about a month ago as well, along with Beast and Shadowcat, but it was determined that the person who did that was lying.

Is that happening again? 66.191.228.218 08:40, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Onslaught

What happened to Onslaught listed as a villian? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 171.161.224.10 (talk • contribs) 11:24, October 23, 2006.

He was never confirmed, the term was just used to refer to the revelation of a bunch of new NPCs. JQF

[edit] The new table for characters

I simply hate it, is there a good reason it's there? The old method was much better and neater. I see no notes whatsoever here about it, so someone just felt it should be changed without discussing it here first? I think a general discussion about the table should be made, before it's changed to a new format. RobJ1981 18:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree! Hense why I changed it back... for the 3rd time in the past hour! (P.S. since this is the place to discuss new table lay-outs then I thought it would be a good idea to create a seperate list detailing each characters alternate costumes-this would also help put a stop to the Iron Spidey argument!) LloydyJr

The old table is messy, uninformative and unprofessional. There are misaligned sections and large white spaces. The boxes were illogically divided. The new table is much more informative and neat. What defense is there for the old system? --Jamdav86 20:29, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
The table being discussed
Playable characters
Name Alternate Character Unlocked? Sixth Generation Seventh Generation PSP
Blade None Check mark Check mark Check mark Check mark
Black Panther None Check mark Check mark Check mark Check mark
Black Widow Unknown X mark X mark X mark Check mark
Captain America U.S. Agent X mark Check mark Check mark Check mark
Captain Marvel Unknown X mark X mark X mark Check mark
Colossus None X mark X mark Check mark X mark
Daredevil Unknown Check mark Check mark Check mark Check mark
Deadpool None X mark Check mark Check mark Check mark
Dr. Strange None X mark Check mark Check mark Check mark
Elektra None X mark Check mark Check mark Check mark
Ghost Rider Vengeance
Phantom Rider		 X mark Check mark Check mark Check mark
Hawkeye Unknown X mark X mark X mark Check mark
Human Torch None X mark Check mark Check mark Check mark
Iceman None X mark Check mark Check mark Check mark
Invisible Woman None X mark Check mark Check mark Check mark
Iron Man War Machine X mark Check mark Check mark Check mark
Luke Cage None X mark Check mark Check mark Check mark
Ms. Marvel Sharon Ventura X mark Check mark Check mark Check mark
Mister Fantastic None X mark Check mark Check mark Check mark
Moon Knight Khonshu X mark X mark Check mark X mark
Nick Fury Unknown X mark Check mark Check mark Check mark
Ronin Unknown X mark Check mark X mark Check mark
Silver Surfer None Check mark Check mark Check mark Check mark
Spider-Man Scarlet Spider X mark Check mark Check mark Check mark
Spider-Woman Arachne
Spider-Girl		 X mark Check mark Check mark Check mark
Storm None X mark Check mark Check mark Check mark
The Thing None X mark Check mark Check mark Check mark
Thor Beta Ray Bill X mark Check mark Check mark Check mark
Wolverine None X mark Check mark Check mark Check mark
--Jamdav86 20:32, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
The old table was fine. Why do we need such a long table? The original table was neat, and not just a long list of characters. Considering there is only a handful of exclusives, unlockables and so on... the old table works just fine. RobJ1981 22:49, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
The old table makes no sense. A high school student could tell you that it is not a proper table. A cell should contain one piece of information only. The old table has four cells, each containing various pieces of information, and two more tables just below it that contain similar pieces of information split off for a minor difference. My table is a proper table that makes sense. The old one is a jumble, a mess. --Jamdav86 09:56, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I think that, ultimately, Jamdav86's one is more encyclopedic than the previous one. Goldenboy|talk|contribs 12:34, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Actually, just to add to my last comment; now the game is out, everything under the table in Characters isn't needed, so no more or less space will actually be used, should the new table be added. Goldenboy|talk|contribs 12:38, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
The old table is the norm for these kinds of things. If you look at other games of this nature (X-Men: Legends for example) they have the same system. As for it being a "proper table", it is because it's not a matter of how much information is in it, so long as it is organized in a proper manner. While your new table does look nice, it is very redundant. It takes up a lot more space to convey the same information that the old table did. I'd also like to ask what you would do with the NPC and villain sections, because by your standards, something would have to be done with those sections as well. And yes, now that the game is out, the info under the table can be removed, although that will have to wait until the page protection is removed, which was implemented because of the edit war going on over this table. I think that the best solution will be to have the unlockable, PSP and Next-Gen columns be moved to the same row as the playables, and more columns be added to the NPC and Villain rows, since there are suppose to be many more of them to be revealed. JQF 13:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Maybe it should just be a list like WWE SmackDown! Shut Your Mouth, WWE SmackDown! Here Comes The Pain etc.. --Jamdav86 14:36, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

That's just a straight up list, and since every character shown is playable in those games, and it's only for one system, it works for them. However, with the NPCs, Villians and exclusives, we need something more complex that a straight up list. JQF 18:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I think the old list should stand. It seems fine. Also, why is it necessary to list each and every NPC? I realize the game features many characters, but I don't think it's that important to list every character. X-Men Legends for example: features more than what is it listed, but certainly we can't list each and every NPC or random villain. There is a difference between a list, and a cluttered list. The game is out now (for several systems). Someone that's played the game, should certainly go through the NPC list and only list the notable names. I noticed on the X-Men Legends 2 page, there is a section for people "briefly in cutscene". That's not very important, in my opinion. A brief appearance doesn't make a huge impact on the game, it's not worth mentioning. I can somehow bet the NPC's in the game won't all be shown alot, there will be brief appearances as well. Is it really that necessary to list brief appearances? Encyclopedia, not a fan's guide to every little thing. RobJ1981 18:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I don't think every NPC or Villian will end up being listed, what with there being ~140 of them. As far as I know, everyone listed so far plays an important role in the game, to one degree or another. JQF 19:02, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Here's the characters in list form. This is a lot better than the tables that are currently up.

[edit] Playable Characters

[edit] NPCs

[edit] Villains

[edit] Heroes (Playable Status Unknown)

--Jamdav86 11:41, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't think that's better. It's basically table with fewer columns, no border and bigger headers. Maybe if you incresed the number of columns it would be on par. JQF 14:45, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

The border's the bit that makes me want to puke on the existing list. If you need the border, do a proper table, if not, do the above.
You can have as many or as little in each column as you like. I have no preference. --Jamdav86 14:58, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
The old table is still better. Also, in my opinion...a spoiler note needs to be put above characters. Not everyone wants to know every character in the game. Some people actually like to be surprised, when it comes to games. RobJ1981 18:04, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Regardless, Siryn needs to be moved to NPCs. Goldenboy|talk|contribs 18:38, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
The spoiler warning must have removed during the edit war, and I didn't see it before the page got protected. Well, if it seems that most people want the old table to stay, so I'll go ask the page to be brought out of protection. JQF 18:44, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm ready to unprotect, but I just want to be sure, everyone's agreed on what version to use? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 15:39, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What the hell happened to Ronin

Somebody removed Ronin from the list.... AlexMc

Causualty of an edit war, but it's been fixed. JQF 14:01, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] In Development? O RLY?

Because I have a store-bought copy right here. Doesn't seem to be 'in Development' any longer. Can someone please ditch the tag?

I'm pretty sure all versions aren't out yet, so the tag should remain. RobJ1981 19:28, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
The tag should be modified. I don't know I what state the Wii, PS3 and DS version are in, but the tag can be changed to "Most version have been released", or something like that. JQF 19:48, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I don't think there is a tag like that. I don't see much point in anyone making a tag like that, since release dates for different versions are usually not that far apart. RobJ1981 22:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] unlockables

some of the characters listed as playable are actually unlockables, like Blade, Ghost Rider, and Doctor Strange. Onua10004 02:39, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

See above - We're not counting characters unlocked by normal play; just those that require specific conditions (I.E. Completion, collecting figures)Goldenboy|talk|contribs 16:25, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Then you should put Silver Surfer in the characters box, he's unlocked by defeating galactus.

And you should put Blade into the unlockable section - unless I am mistaken, he is unlocked by playing a mini-game in the Murderworld section and easily overlooked. Nik 11:56, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Weasel

Weasel is in the game. Trust me I have played it. I beleive he is the guy that makes Deadpool's gadgets. I couldnt edit the page but will someone edit it for me

I know! they need to list him on NPC's . It is hilarious that he hits on Valkerie, LOL

[edit] More Characters

We need to update the list. Weasel,Beast,Psylocke,Namorita,and others need to be on it. Also take Syrin out. She is nowhere to be found in the game.

[edit] Lizard,Senator Kelly,Weasel, and Paibok

They need to add these characters on the chart.

[edit] 6th/7th generation?

I know that technically Wii is a 7th gen console, but given that it's not as powerful as the other 7th gen machines, how does that difference apply in games such as this? Will the Wii version of MUA have the 7th gen graphical features, characters, etc? Kelvingreen 17:43, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

7th Generation means the 7th generation of consoles - not the processing power, graphics, etc of the consoles themselfs.
Yes, I understand that. However, Wii is considerably less powerful than the other 7th gen consoles. My question is whether the features exclusive to the 7th gen MUA build are exclusive because only 7th gen machines have the power to make them work, or for another reason. For example, at a guess, I'd say that the graphical embellishments on the PS3/XBOX360 versions won't be present on Wii, but I don't see why the 7th gen exclusive characters shouldn't be available on Wii, as their inclusion isn't down to processing power, presumably. In other words, are the 7th gen exclusive features available on all 7th gen consoles, or just the ones powerful enough to handle them? Kelvingreen 11:07, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
7th Generation = X-Box 360, PS3 & Wii. The Wii will have the same characters as the 360 and PS3, so yes, the Wii will have both Colossus and Moon Knight/Khonshu as characters. Goldenboy|talk|contribs 15:55, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
And the graphical embellishments? (and yes, I do know Wii is 7th gen ;)) Kelvingreen 10:17, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Considering that you just said you know the Wii is less powerful than the PS3 and 360, that question is rather unnecessary and you already pretty much answered your own question before asking it. Being as it less powerful but still 7th gen indicates that it may have all the same characters, but lesser graphics. This is just speculation though since as of now, the Wii has not been released. I don't think any of us really know what the real info is. I guess we'll have to wait. Vgamer101 20:22, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

I got another question. What about the PC version of the game? It doesn't really count as either 6th or 7th gen content since it is an open-ended platform, so what contents in terms of characters does it have? Vgamer101 05:55, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Imperial Guard

Warstar,Neutron,Hussar, and Starbolt need to be added as bosses. Take Abomination off to I beat the game and he isnt in.

Is it not possible that (1) you missd him by taking another path through the game, or (2) that he's not in your version of the game? Kelvingreen 10:28, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Negative. I've got the guide and the game, Abomination is not in the game in any way, shape, or form. ~~Steve

[edit] S'byll and Mysterio

Empress S'byll and Skrull Queen...one of these should go, since she IS the Skrull Queen.

Also, Mysterio needs to be added to Villains. Thanos6 13:46, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The game is out now, so...

Do we really have to cite sources and include all these bulleted facts regarding characters in a game that is now out and availible to the general public? The page would look a lot better without all the text between the cast chart and "Voice Actors" section. Just thought I'd bring it up here first instead of going ahead and editing it myself, in case anyone felt there were any legitimate objection to this kind of thing. 68.227.95.2 16:24, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

No, none of that has to be there anymore. JQF 16:46, 30 October 2006 (UTC)


Yes, delete all of the citations. We dont need them

[edit] Dark Fantastic Four

Someone put the Dark Fantastic Four also include Senator Kelly,Paibok, and anyone else forgotten

The Dark versions of playable charactetrs don't need including.

[edit] Someone fix the character table

It looks terrible

[edit] Game Cube?

Is this playable on Game Cube? --DrBat 23:48, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

No it's not. Although the original trailer included the GNC logo, the game was never released for the Cube. On a side note, concerning locations, they go to the Skrull "Throneworld," not the homeworld. That was destroyed by Galactus long ago. In fact, Galactus acts a bit out of character in the game. Whereas in the comics he was clearly a rational being who could understand threats to the universe (infinity gauntlet, annihilation, anyone?) in the game he doesn't willingly help the heroes and shows anger at them for what they did
The heroes don't explain anything to Galactus, or ask for his help. They just attack and steal from him. If he didn't know about Doom's threat, how could he have helped? No wonder the guy gets angry. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.29.28.60 (talk) 18:46, 8 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Villain list

It's getting way too long. In my opinion, every villain in the game doesn't need to be listed. Many of the names on the list are only villains in a small training level: that's certainly not that important to list. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a game guide to every villain that makes a small appearance in the game. RobJ1981 01:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Definitely. Only villains who play an important role in the game should be on the list. JQF 15:10, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I must respectuflly disagree. It's important to list all the Marvel Characters that appear in the game, as it's touted as having the most comic characters ever. Having the game myself, I must say there are a great many who should be noted.
As I said before, this is an encyclopedia: NOT a game guide. It's not important to list each and every character. If someone appears briefly in the game: doesn't need to be listed. If someone briefly appears in a comic mission (training level: not a huge part of the game): doesn't need to be listed. RobJ1981 03:59, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
It is precisely for the reason that this site is in fact an encyclopedia that we should list all the characters. This is a site taht gives you all the info. Which characters you can play/meet is important to many people in reference to a game that claims its got the most comic book characters ever!

Rob name ONE villian that you see in a training mission that you don't in the game and I will prove you wrong.

[edit] Moon Knight

Khonshu is NOT an alternate character. It is still Moon Knight. Here is a screenshot of the costume: http://i11.tinypic.com/2cxb02g.jpg.

Thanks for that. Still a shame though. Goldenboy|talk|contribs 18:52, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] JLA heroes

I heard that you could put characters from it in Ultimate Alliance on the PS2 system, is this true?

uhh, no. Just how would you that?

Using the saves on your memory card. There are games like lego star wars where you can use characters from the original game.Also add Swordman he is a PSP exclusive villain in Hawkeye`s comic mission.

No, you can't. The games are made by different companies AND rival franchises. Games that allow such options are like Lego Star Wars 1 & 2 (Same franchise) or Midnight Club & Smuggler's Run (Same company)

Sorry, someone edited the articel and said you could.

[edit] Empress S'ybll and Dark Phoenix

So, umm, I just beat the game and I never encountered Dark Phoenix (I fought a mind-controlled Jean Grey, but she was labeled as Jean Grey) or Empress Syb'll (Though their was a character somewhat anonymously labeled as a Skrull Empress). Did I miss something or are these assumptions based on to events in the game. Sevenzeroone says: Poopy is not fun! 13:20, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

I beat the game earlier and there's that montage at the end which tells you about what happened in the future based on what you decided to do in-game. If you chose to save Nightcrawler instead of Jean Grey, then Uatu forecasts that she will return and seek revenge on those who did not save her, with a screen of her as the Dark Phoenix, all pulsing with the flames of vengeance and whatnot.Blindblue

Yeah, but that's not in the game. I mean, Mystique and Surtur are mentioned in the destiny video, and they don't belong on the list either. Sevenzeroone says: Poopy is not fun! 13:20, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Jean's in her Dark Phoenix costume, but that's about it. She's obviously not actually the Dark Phoenix entity, as she's on Galactus' power level in that state. Sy'bil is the Skrull Empress. 140.185.215.122 13:59, 17 November 2006 (UTC)Steve

I realize in regular continuity Sy'bll is the Skrull Empress, but in the game the character is just called Skrull Empress, we can't assume this one is Sy'bll. Sevenzeroone says: Poopy is not fun! 22:31, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Villain and NPC sections need alot of cleanup

It's not important to list each and every Villain or NPC (non player character). If someone appears very briefly as a NPC, it shouldn't be listed. Same goes for lesser villains of the game, as well as people that only appear briefly in a cutscene movie. Just because the game features over 100 characters, doesn't mean a good percent should be listed. Remember: Wikipedia isn't a game guide. RobJ1981 23:10, 12 November 2006 (UTC) Rob you already said it.And everybody still doesn't agree with you.

ROB, as the game claims to have the biggest Superhero cast ever and this is a site were people come for info, then it is important to list all the characters. If it pleases people could we not start a new page listing all the characters? We have this for Final Fantasy 7. CrazyFoolMrT 14:45, 13 December 2006

Except the afforementioned pages for the Final Fantasy games also have information about the characters, as many of them appear in just the one game - Remember, only FFVII, FFX & FFXIII have sequels or spin-offs. Considering many -if not all - all the characters in Ultimate Alliance have their own pages, it's not neccesary, as the page would just contain a list.

[edit] Playable and Unlockable?

We have characters that are unlocked at one point in the game, like Ghost Rider, and characters that are optional unlocks, like Blade, in separate sections. They should probably be merged. Anyone have any say on this?--Agent Aquamarine 13:40, 13 November 2006 (UTC) read this"unlockables

some of the characters listed as playable are actually unlockables, like Blade, Ghost Rider, and Doctor Strange. Onua10004 02:39, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

See above - We're not counting characters unlocked by normal play; just those that require specific conditions (I.E. Completion, collecting figures)Goldenboy|talk|contribs 16:25, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Then you should put Silver Surfer in the characters box, he's unlocked by defeating galactus.

Negative... Silver Surfer is unlocked by completing all the simulator disc missions. This has been confirmed by the VIP site and by people who have actually unlocked him in the game (such as myself) and people who haven't after beating Galactus. 140.185.215.122 14:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)Steve
And you should put Blade into the unlockable section - unless I am mistaken, he is unlocked by playing a mini-game in the Murderworld section and easily overlooked. Nik 11:56, 29 October 2006 (UTC)"
He's unlocked during gameplay. You don't have to complete the game to unlock him.

[edit] Luke Cage (Powerman)

Right, uh.. This guy is a playable character, on all versions. And he's not in the main list. So i'm going to go ahead and fix that if I can, and if I can't, someone'll have to fix that for everyone. Just letting you guys know.

Uh, okay. Apparently he is there, just out of order. I skipped over him cause I was looking in 'L' for Luke Cage and 'P' for Powerman.

[edit] Venom?

Venom is listed in the villains list. Does he actually appear in the game, because I've never seen him. I'm playing the PS2 version though, so IF he isn't in that version of the game, which version is he in? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.29.28.60 (talk) 18:38, 8 December 2006 (UTC).

Hate to say it, but Venom is not featured in this game. One of Spiderman's skins is the symbiot costume, but other than that he's not inclued. There is always hope for the sequal.

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