Talk:Mark Twain/Comments

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Needs references. Trivia and Epigrams sections too large Errabee 00:16, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

There is no way this article is a "B" class. It is barely a skeleton of article with a lot of "fluff", it's a C at best and should not be included in a CD-ROM version. The biography section is nearly non-existent, that section should be 5 to 10 times as long. The biography is the main point of the article. Also the "career overview" is largely original research and un-sourced and missing a lot of material. -- Stbalbach 15:04, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

If true, that still doesn't mean it's not a B, but rather why it's not an A. To be a Start, it just has to have one of the following:
  • a particularly useful picture or graphic
  • multiple links that help explain or illustrate the topic
  • a subheading that fully treats an element of the topic
  • multiple subheadings that indicate material that could be added to complete the article

To be a B:

Has several of the elements described in "start", usually a majority of the material needed for a completed article. Nonetheless, it has significant gaps or missing elements or references, needs substantial editing for English language usage and/or clarity, balance of content, or contains other policy problems such as copyright, NPOV or NOR. With NPOV a well written B-class may correspond to the "Wikipedia 0.5" or "usable" standard. Articles that are close to GA status but don't meet the Good article criteria should be B- or Start-class articles.

--plange 22:59, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

It's a subjective call, I just don't see this as being a B article. There is basically no Biography section (what is there is poor and should probably be removed). Considering this is a Biography article. -- Stbalbach
Yep, and I would call that a "significant gap" that is defined under B. In fact I'm the one that noted on the to-do list that it needed such info. I'm not saying your doing this, but keep in mind that the scale is just meant to give a ballpark of where the article is so that WP:WPBIO can know where it stands and prioritize when it should focus attention on it, and not to make a WP:POINT. This article has already been identified by our group (WPBIO) as needing help and is our first collaboration under the core biographies sub-project. So, let's dig in and help improve the article :-) --plange 15:33, 5 November 2006 (UTC)