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[edit] Request for citation

From the article: "the majority of the world's "Marine" troops are American."

I'm not disputing this; it sounds very plausible, given the current strength of the US Marine Corps. However, a claim this remarkable - that the US Marine Corps is larger than the marine corps of every other nation in the world put together - could probably use some sort of citation to back it up. Could someone add one? -- Haeleth 14:06, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

I edited it instead. Didn't seem relevant? Hakluyt bean 20:41, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Ah well :) Someone disagreed and reversed the edit. I had a think and it still doesn't strike me as encyclopedic and probably not the kind of assertion that will have a citation (?). It also on reflection begins to seem a doubtful claim, thinking of the various militaries around the world, China, Russia, etc. etc. and the different ways marine contingents are identified as corps or subsidiary to the Navy or Army would make it very difficult to verify. So anyway I've gone back to my edit (hopefully better worded than I managed the first time). Maybe if firm figures could be given for marine units listed in wikipedia that would at least produce a stat, but I've a feeling that would be quite a bit of work. Maybe someone's up for it, but not me :) -- Hakluyt bean 01:01, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
I agree that it will be difficult to produce "no shit" facts and figures to back this up but I will almost guarantee that it is true. Most nations do not have any kind of force projection and that is what a Marine Corps is. Only Russia, China, England and a few others have decent Navies and their Marine units are not that big. This is what I can find on Wikipedia and a few websites about 7 large Marine forces in the world. The other biggies I missed are the Netherlands and Thailand but they are no more than 10,000 each. No matter where you look the numbers are not that great. So I think it is not that far off to say that the USMC is larger than all of the other Marine units put together.

[edit] France

Marine armors (Chars de marine) in French marines are not considered as a separate entity they still are infantry although they are equipped with light tanks (AMX 10 RC). As far as I know there are only two regiments of (Chars de marine): RICM (Regiment d'Infanterie Chars de Marine, which is the new name of Regiment d'Infanterie Colonial du Maroc, they just kept the acronym) and 1er RIMA (1st regiment of marine infantry).

[edit] generic name for marine units... ("Marines" not "Marine Corps")

-Is "marine corps" really the generic name for marine units? Hakluyt bean 19:47, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

-NO it is not, this is why this entire article needs to be REMOVED from Wikipedia aside from that, the quality is horrible

-I don't think it should be removed. It needs a lot of fixing & it needs to be moved the the title "Marines" or "Amphibious Forces." MCG 25 Aug 2006


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[edit] Marines NOT the most elite of the Armed Forces.

For the individual who has continued to re-edit the above statement into the "article" page (concerning Marines):

Marines are NOT the most elite in the Armed Forces! I am a former Marine Infantryman and I can tell you that there are, most definitely, more elite units than the Marines, and we're talking about the standards here for the basic Marine which is the rifleman. I'm sure Navy Seals would harshly argue that the average Marine doesn't compare in the slightest to them, as would Army Rangers and other Special Operations Groups within the Armed Forces.

However, as far as our military's basic standard for "gun-fighters", than YES, Marines are the most elite (only in that aspect). After all, the only other branch that we could compare ourselves to would be the Army's "soldier", as the Air Force, Navy, and Coast Guard do not have a standard grunt-type occupation.

Please, feel free to argue here. I consider myself to be a proud Marine, but more importantly, a realistic one.

I would love to argue with you, but I do not know how to contact you. The US Marine Corps is by far the most elite of the "ARMED FORCES". Navy Seals, Army Rangers, etc. are Special Operations Forces. I do appreciate your realism, but you stated it yourself, "Special Operations Groups within the Armed Forces".

As far as your basis for argument. The US Marine Corps is not just a basis for infantrymen. We continue to out perform with limited and/or outdated assets. To be a Marine, you must recongnize the "Make it Happen" and that is what we do. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cpinson (talk • contribs) 22:44 UTC, May 17, 2006 (UTC)

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