Talk:Marian dogmas

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So, yah, as was asked by Colonel Tom, I have made an article on the four currently defined dogmas of Mary. These dogmas deserve an article of their own, and since I had made an article on the fifth Marian dogma, who better than to create the article?

Now, I admit the article is not 100% neutral, but it wasn't made to discuss the four dogmas of Mary, but rather, to inform people of them--this may sound bias, but its not meant to be. Its like if someone made an article on air--you can't insert arguments into the article that air doesn't exist ('cause we all know it dose, by common sense), so you just make an article that gives information on air. And that is what is meant by Marian Dogmas--to just present information on the dogmas of Mary. Of course, arguments set against them can be collected in one article called, I dunno, Arguments Against the Marian Dogmas, but that is up to the Wikipedia members. I'm certainly not going to make the article, because it doesn't interest me to make arguments about something I'm trying to inform people about--of course, I do admit that it would certainly help enlighten people on why the are those who accept the dogmas and why there are those who do not.

Finally, I'd like to clarify that, when I said "inform people," I didn't mean I'd try to convert people, or force people into thinking as I do, or even make up a biased article--all I meant is that the article is all about providing what information on the dogmas of Mary I could find in Christian books and so, not copy it into an article, but use it as a resource of information on the Marian dogmas--like how people go to other sites and books to get information on something and than use what they learned from them to make articles on Wikipedia. I just used the Christian books to learn about the Marian dogmas and than I used what I learned to create this article.

[edit] Merge Fifth Marian Dogma?

Is there any purpose having an entire SEPERATE article on the Fifth Marian Dogma, when there is no information in here? Wouldn't a merge be appropriate here? Relatively new here so I'm not sure of the processes to make this happen.

Hodijah 18:50 04 October 2006

[edit] Why There Shouldn't Be A "Co-Redemptrix" Section

• The four Marian dogmas discussed are all dogmatically defined--the fifth Marian dogma (or dogma of the Co-Redemptrix) has not been dogmatically defined, and to include it in the article would only confuse people into thinking the so-called fifth Marian dogma is already dogmatically defined.
• A whole article on the fifth Marian dogma already exists (Just search for "Fifth Marian Dogma").
• The section would be about Mary Co-Redemptrix, NOT the fifth Marian dogma, as it turns out. So, it really dosen't belong in the article Marian DOGMAS. (Which is THIS article, by the way).

[edit] The perptual virginity of Mary?

I cant find any proof for the claim that "The perptual virginity of Mary" is a church dogma. I've heard something about an early dialogue between saint Jerome and someone else who disscused this, but i cant find anything that says it's a dogma. There is a feast i Russia namned Pokrov, where "TPVoM" is named - so maybe it's just dogma in the Eastern church (even if thats sounds strange?)