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[edit] Weight

Is the weight right? It is way off in comparison to the WTA profile. http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/2/players/playerprofiles/PlayerBio.asp?PlayerID=310137

She obviously weighs much more than 130.

[edit] Deletion of Quotes section

The quote "She is ugly. Like a witch on the court." attributed to Roger Federer is clearly someone's malicious attempt to post negative and biased comments against Maria Sharapova and would also be defamatory to Federer. In fact, there has been a history of quotes inserted by various abusers of Wikipedia which are falsely attributed either to Sharapova or to other players.

The quotes "Will you marry me, Roger?" - Andy Roddick and "I love you Maria!" - Anonymous also appear rather childish and trivial.

To this end, the Quotes section was simply deleted as it lends itself to far too much abuse.

[edit] Deletion of Roddick Quote in Quotes section

The quote ("It was great going out with her. I had to keep blinking as I couldn't believe I was actually going out with Maria Sharapova."- Andy Roddick ) was deleted as both Maria and Andy have repeatedly denied any rumours of a relationship. If Roddick did say this, then a proper citation is needed, and also the proper context of how and why it was said needs to be shown (eg whether it was said on a proper date, or if he said it when they were out with a group of friends or at one of these events where they were together). Otherwise, to those not as discerning, this would simply fuel unsubstantiated rumours which Maria herself has denied.

[edit] Use of Indian Wells 2005 Photo in photos section

The photo of Maria at Indian Wells 2005 seems not only outdated but rather biased against her. The 2005 tournament was the one where she lost 6-0, 6-0 against Lindsay Davenport. However, she won the tournament in 2006. If there is to be a photographic representation of Maria from this or any tournament, why purposely pick the one (out of so many photographs available) which clearly shows her in the most unfavourable light? A photo from 2006 Indian Wells would be far more relevant and appropriate and should be substituted in place of the 2005 one, or at least a neutral photograph of another tournament - 23 June 2006.


[edit] Redirect

There should be a redirect from 'Maria Sjarapova' as that's the way her name is spelled in lots of countries.

[edit] Professional Model

There seems to be a lot of silly talk about whether Wiki can call Maria a professional model. Maria herself calls herself a professional model. As she won Wimbledon at the age of 17, it seems obvious she's allowed to call herself anything she wants. And Wiki should follow respectfully after. So Wiki contributors can recover from their current PR crisis.


If anyone needed info on the youngest winners bits. Here's for singles:

1. Lottie Dod      1887 @ 15 years 9 months
2. Martina Hingis  1997 @ 16 years 9 months
3. Maria Sharapova 2004 @ 17 years 2 months

Here's for all championships:

1. Martina Hingis  1996 @ 15 years 9 months (282 days)
2. Charlotte Dod   1887 @ 15 years 9 months (285 days)

And finally, Sharapova's stats here: http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/bios/profile/ws/wtas961.html

Kokiri 21:24, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC) P.S. I Is it true that only yesterday we had an article on her?

Question: Here's snippets from the first two paragraphs...

Maria Sharapova (Russian: Мария Шарапова, Maríya Sharápova), born April 19, 1987...
At a tournament in Moscow in 1992, Sharapova was spotted by Martina Navratilova, who urged her parents to get her serious coaching in the United States. The following year, she emigrated to the U.S. at the age of eight to play tennis at the Nick Bollettieri Tennis Academy.

In 1992, she was 4-5; in the following year, she would have been 5-6. She couldn't be 8 until 1995. So which is right - Was the tournament in 1994, was it three years later that she moved to Florida, or was she age six? If she emigrated one year after the 1992 tournament, she could only be six years old at the oldest. --Golbez 15:50, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of 203.121.198.71's contribution ("too much detail")

I disagree with Cantus' deletion of 203.121.198.71's contribution. I thought that new info was interesting. I looked, but couldn't find any policy that said depth of article needs to be proportional to how famous the subject is. —Fleminra 07:43, Jul 23, 2004 (UTC)

All right, I'll merge it. sigh. I still think it provides no real insight. --Cantus 08:40, Jul 23, 2004 (UTC)
Cool, thanks.. yes it was not well integrated before. —Fleminra 16:28, Jul 23, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Maria's height

the official height the WTA tour has her at:

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/2/players/playerprofiles/playerbio.asp?PlayerID=310137

CBS & USA TV commentators speculating on her height are not official.


It's 6'2" now (August 2005): [1]

Edit, the link appears to have moved, I'll attempt to find another copy. She did herself state that she is 6'2" now.
Here we are: [2]

According to the most recent info on CBS, during this last US Open, her height is 6 feet even. Her weight--130 lbs.

I don't know which CBS broadcast you saw, but the one I saw said she was 6 foot 3 inches... --Flute138 03:11, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Several weeks ago, I heard a report (on TV, so I can't cite it) that she's just had a growth spurt, and has gained at least two inches in the last year. This is probably the source of the confusion on the matter. Would be nice to find a reliable, citable source for her current height/weight. -- Xtifr 12:19, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

it was mentioned a dozen times during the US Open finals, that Maria is now 6'3". I have made the edit twice, but it is constantly reverted. Can someone else confirm this?

i reverted height according to the latest data [3]. weight was blank, so i added 130 back, however, even i am not buying this, esp @ her height...The undertow 09:51, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I think its time for some final clarification regarding height-- the source listed by undertow that I placed into the article states that she is 6 ft 3...now, several IP addresses, and recently a newly joined wikipedian are arguing that she is 6 ft 2 in, based on sources such as the WTA tour website, which is severely outdated. Any of you guys have suggestions on how to handle this situation? I propose a vote, though it seems somewhat silly to vote whether someone is 6 foot 2 in or 6 foot 3 in. --Flute138 03:34, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Why not just omit the meaningless data about her height and weight? Tennis expert 05:37, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm surprised a tennis expert would say that. Height is an important factor in tennis. Taller players have an advantage based on net position. Do you think we should delete height data in general - as in for all athletes and anyone in general? It's like omitting age. There is a definitive answer here, but it appears that only Maria knows for sure. The undertow 08:07, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Folks, this becomes ridiculous. I agree that Maria is probably 6 ft 3" tall these days (see for instance discussion in the blog here [4]) but the large majority of websites give her 6 ft 2" following the "official" numbers given in the WTA tour site. It might be outdated but this is where people will most likely get the info. I propose to leave the height at 6 ft 2" pending changes on the WTA site. Otherwise Flute138 will end up spending lots of time and energy reverting edits by others (it seems that you are already doing this several times a week, aren't you?). If you are worried about accuracy, just add a date next to the height: 6 ft 2" (as of August 2005) for instance. I don't want to think about another edit war next year if she gains say half an inch! ArthurWeasley 06:24, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm fine with leaving it at 6 ft. 2 in, as long as there is some sort of annotation stating that the height is correct as of a certain date. As you alluded to ArthurWeasley, it's getting a bit repetitive consistently reverting, which is why I think it's important that a height be "agreed" upon. Remember, Wikipedia is a source that is commonly cited--just pop a search for Maria + Height, and you'll find several answer sites that simply quote this article. I'm just worried about wrong information being spread around. --Flute138 20:51, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
I just want to avoid having a pointless edit war raging on Sharapova's page over an inch difference in height. I bet most of the users who are reverting the height to 6 ft 2" (or even 6 ft) do not consult the Talk page, so even if you and me and others agreed that she is taller, it won't stop the others to think otherwise until the official WTA page got updated. Better go with the flow and leave the height at 6 ft 2", citing WTA and annotate that it was as of August 2005 (info won't be wrong that way). ArthurWeasley 21:42, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

There is no confirmation of Sharapova's 6'3" height and as you see next to Hantuchova she does not look it. I will keep it a 6'2" until her official wta page is changed. Just because John McEnroe says she's 6'3" does not make it true. The yalso mentioned she was 6'2" the tournament before that. The anouncers are always calling Roddick 6'3" and some websites have him at 6'3" also that blog still has Maria at 6'2" therefor she is probably 6'2" and if she is not, she is still listed as so. You can put something like "official listing:6'2"" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tough Critic (talk • contribs) .

[edit] US Open 2005

Someone recently added a section in the article titled US Open 2005. I commented it out (but it's still inside the article, just not visible) because it's not NPOV and I thought that it would be better to rewrite it as part of a general section on Sharapova's 2005 performance. Noelle De Guzman 09:17, 20 January 2006 (UTC) There is no confirmation of Sharapova's 6'3" height and as you see next to Hantuchova she does not look it. I will keep it a 6'2" until her official wta page is changed. Just because John McEnroe says she's 6'3" does not make it true. The yalso mentioned she was 6'2" the tournament before that. The anouncers are always calling Roddick 6'3" and some websites have him at 6'3" also that blog still has Maria at 6'2" therefor she is probably 6'2" and if she is not, she is still listed as so. You can put something like "official listing:6'2""

[edit] Citizenship

She came here at age 6, I did not know she didn't become a citizen yet.

Here? Where's here? Should we rename Earth the United States of Earth? (Sasquatchuk 02:08, 10 September 2006 (UTC))

"Here" most certainly means the United States by default. Sorry Sasquatch..

[edit] Photos

Should we have three pictures of Maria in this article? I should think that two would be enough. Not to mention, the third picture is under a new category named "Photos" which seems out of place considering it only has one photo in it, and this isn't a fan web site, it is a Wikipedia article. --Scotsworth 23:46, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Also a Photos section will encourage more pics to be placed on the page, and that isn't the purpose of the article. I'll remove the section and the pic from the main article. --Noelle De Guzman (talk) 06:26, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Sporting events and players should be illustrated graphically as it and they are experienced visually. I'll be restructuring the page to re-insert the removed picture and add on the side and not in a separate section. See also the International Space Station that has 25 images in my count or these other ones: Moon, Lance Armstrong, George W. Bush. --User:Akademan (talk) 1p.m., April 2nd 2006 (PDT)

We can all pretty much agree that Maria is quite an attractive woman. And yes, I know that this is not a fansite by any means, but there most likely many people that hear of Maria and that she is attractive, and come to wiki to check it out... shouldn't we have a better photo of her for the main picture of the article? I think she deserves it. Oughgh 22:21, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

There is now a huge picture of Maria Sharapova which which is rather disorienting. Seems to be overcompensating a bit.

[edit] US Open 2005 section, not NPOV

I initially commented out this section because it doesn't seem to be written in a NPOV style, and it's a match report. When I commented this out, I suggested the information in it be included as part of a description of Sharapova's 2005 results. However, someone removed the <!-- -->, making the section visible in the main article. I removed the section and put it here on the Talk page so other editors can discuss how to include it in the article.

Sharapova was defeated in the semi-finals of the US Open by Kim Clijsters after a nerve-wrecking encounter that ended 2-6 in first set, followed up by 7-6 in the second (ending in a tie-break) to finally lose with 3-6 in the third. Sharapova's defeat was much due to her inconsistent serves that led to a total of seven double faults during the encounter. Nevertheless, after falling behind 0-40 in the 12th game of the second set, the Russian started uncorking winners and managed to bring the game to deuce where after she fought off two more match points to force a tiebreak. Unfortunately, she didn't have the physical endurance left to pull-off a winning game on the last set and inevitably lost the match to Clijsters for the fourth time in a row.

Please place your comments and suggestions about this section here. --Noelle De Guzman (talk) 10:20, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sence?

How many times can you type 'sence'?

And 'noncense'? That's just noncense!

Probably a dyslexic vandal. Or just a normal plain stupid one. Plebmonk 00:38, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Plebmonk, a point was being made on the accuracy of a claim, apparently all u can add is just a quip and a rude remark on someone's spelling, you would'nt do it in their face so think twice (and possibly refrain) before you type an insult, at someone who is actually doing something useful, only because you feel protected by the lack of a real and immediate confrontation. Stemel 22:55, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Model?

I'm not a Maria-fan but I wouldn't call her a model, in my opinion she doesn't do enough modeling to be called a model. Does she call herself a model (if so it would make sence to call her a model, if not it doesn't make any sence)? In my point of view I think the "Modeling" section should be transfered to "Trivia". Very good written article otherwise. Great job Sharapova-people! Mariah-Yulia 00:25, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

She does have a modeling contract with IMG, her management company. Still, that reference to "model" in the article's opening paragraph wasn't there until someone added it recently. --Noelle De Guzman (talk) 00:34, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank's for the info (and changing the article). I don't like it when they call her "a model who does find the time to play tennis" (as quoted from Belgium TV). And I think Wikipedia shouldn't encourage such noncense. Mariah-Yulia 02:19, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Sharapova herself has said that tennis is her priority, and she hasn't appeared as a model except for her spokesperson duties (and the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue). The person who most closely matches "a model who finds time to play tennis" is Anna Kournikova. ;) Thanks. --Noelle De Guzman (talk) 01:25, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Will it be better if the "Career" section be further subdivided to the tennis part and the modeling part? Because currently, that flow of that section jumps from her model looks to her tennis to her model looks again. Under the latter division, we can include her participation in magazine covers, publicities and endorsements.Joey80 08:49, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree with you, it's not an easy read now. Mariah-Yulia 21:38, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quotes

Seriously, some of those need checking - most specifically the ""I love cock" quote. If she had actually said that, I'm sure there would be no shortage of sites to source that from... Looks like vandalism to me. -- Greaser 21:20, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

It's true though, I'm not so sure about the "i take it up the batty hole" quote, if its gonna be included it needs some reliable sources. Plebmonk 00:34, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

I translated and added the first three. The others were added by unknown user. --Brand спойт 15:31, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

I put in, as a quote: "Ahhhh!!!" - at 101+ Decibels.

She really does grunt at 101+ decibels. Let's put that quote back in, it's something she is well known for, and wasn't meant as a form of vandalism. A source can be found here: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05174/526968.stm 70.64.7.224 21:21, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

It's been vandalised again! Plain & simple word substitution in the last version. Sciamachy 11:41, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation

Can someone check if 66.215.244.244's edit a few minutes ago was valid? I know nothing about pronounciation guides, but the edit doesnt seem right. My apoligies if I am just wasting everybody's time. Galaxydog2000 07:09, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Pronunciation guides not based on IPA are misleading and thus deprecated; so I've removed it per WP:MOSIPA. Ambarish 03:46, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Ambarish: > Pronunciation guides not based on IPA are misleading and thus deprecated This statement is incorrect. IPA is a standard (evolving standard, I must say), that doesn't mean that something not conforming it is misleading (and being misleading doesn;t mean being deprecated btw). There is not enough IPA guides for creating pronunciation of complex foreign names like Russian ones. At the same time not everyone understands what IPA notation means. Thus, I find resorting to a "classic" pronunciation guides quite reasonable.

> so I've removed it per WP:MOSIPA. Instead of doing that, Ambarish, you should have created a correct IPA pronunciation. You see - now there is no correct "international" pronunciation for Sharapova's name - the audio clip is made in Russian and by a Russian, and cannot be used directly by an English speaker.

[edit] Pronunciation revisited

The announcers consistently stress the third syllable, sha-ra-PO-va. Is that really right? I'd have guessed sha-RA-po-va. I know they consistently mispronounce Jelena Jankovic's first name (should be stressed on the first syllable, YELL-eh-na, not ye-LEH-na the way they say it). --Trovatore 00:50, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

The Sharapova's don't seem to correct anyone, so I would assume the announcers have it right. --Chr.K. 02:24, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Right way is sha-RA-pova. Check out this ogg file. Papushin 02:40, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't matter how you pronounce it its still the same —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.27.35.38 (talk • contribs) 16:08, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

The same as what? I didn't ask whether it mattered, just how it's correctly pronounced. I'm inclined to believe Papushin (though it seems he forgot to include the link to the ogg file). --Trovatore 21:22, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
My mistake -- he put it on the article page rather than the talk page, which makes sense. For convenience I've copied it here: listen (help·info) --Trovatore 21:36, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
I don't have a cite for this, but I saw a TV interview where Maria was asked about the pronunication, and she said something like "In Russia it is Shuh-RAH-puh-vuh, but in English Shah-ruh-POH-vuh is good..." 86.0.245.124 10:03, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

So we have a source that shows that the third syllable is stressed. The announcers and people in the media also stress the third syllable. On the other hand, we have a recording of some Russian guy (who is it? what's the source?) pronouncing it with the stress on the second syllable. This audio file only demostrates how it might be pronounced with the strees on the second syllable, NOT that this pronunciation is correct OR that the other one is wrong. We need a better source than this. Ufwuct 02:00, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

is a citation really necessary for the pronunciation of her name? The undertow 08:46, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Please see my above post to see why I think the answer is yes. If no source can be found, then this assertion (of the "correct" pronunciation) should just be removed. Ufwuct 03:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Hm -- I tend to agree that it's probably not WP's place to say that the horrendous "shahrahPOva" pronunciation is "wrong". Even though, let's be clear, it is.
Again, who says?
How would you feel about something like "pronounced shah-RAH-poh-vah in Russian; often rendered shah-rah-POH-vah by English-language media"? It's simply descriptive; doesn't claim anything is "wrong", and it's informative. It's not the kind of thing for which it's easy to find a citation, and I think a citation on a pronunciation is a little silly-looking. --Trovatore 07:50, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
If we can't find a citation of any kind (I think a source showing that another person with the last name of Sharapova pronounces it with emphasis on the 2nd syllable would work, or a source of Maria complaining about how Americans pronounce it would work, ... etc.), then I would think that no assertion is better than an unsourced assertion. If no citation can be provided for the emphasis-on-2nd-syllable version, I would be prefer deleting both pronunciations. That way, Russians and Russian speakers will pronounce it their way and American, British, ... non-Russian speakers will pronounce it the other way (though I suspect that both groups will continue to pronounce it however the ____ they please (regardless of whether a source is found)), and the text of the article, which, to read requires no out-loud pronunciation, will otherwise completely unaffected. Ufwuct 15:57, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

after re-reading comments, i think that removing the entire pronunciation is viable. since the only 'correct' way to pronounce the name is how maria pronounces the name, i say delete it, until we can get an audio of her saying it. (i have no idea why she would say her own last name, but hey, it's possible)The undertow 03:20, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

No one who speaks English will ever argue how to pronounce a name like Jefferson. Same with RUSSIAN name Sharapova - Maria was born in Russia, her parents are Russian, she has a Russian surname and any of 150 million Russians will tell you that there is only one way of pronouncing it: Sha-RA-pova. Regardless of what any announcers or TV reporters or anyone else may say. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.92.103.148 (talk) 22:55, 6 December 2006 (UTC).
i think that logic is flawed. the only right way is determined by the 'owner' of the name. the name 'Stein' is one example.The undertow 02:40, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
It is hard to explain such a simple thing. Maria is Russian, was born in Russia and there is only ONE way of saying her name in Russian - Sha-RA-pova. That's what she's been (and still is) called in Russia. That's what her parents and grandparents were called. When she moved to the US, Americans started MIS-pronouncing her name but that doesn't change her name and the only correct way of saying it. She may move to Japan and the Japananese may have yet another way of saying her name. But just because someone may start saying Jef-FER-son doesn't make it correct pronounciation. Maria accepts the way English-speaking people MIS-pronounce her surname but that doesn't mean that that pronounciation is correct. Maria is NOT the "owner" of that name. That's a common Russian name - there's even a famous book annd movie character Vladimir Sharapov (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Meeting_Place_Cannot_Be_Changed) known to every single person in the Soviet Union. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.126.209.1 (talk) 12:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC).
i don't think the jefferson analogy sits well. while its trivial, i would not want anyone asserting that i was pronouncing my first, much less last name incorrectly. i am glad it was removed, and i really think that since the article is about maria, the reference of pronunciation would only be valid if it is how she pronounces her name. if i had my own article and my first name being Gerry - I would want the soundbite to say it as 'Jerry' and not 'Gary' regardless of how 300 million americans pronounce it. anyway, just my explanation for my position. if maria would just stop by, say her name and how tall she is, well...that may help :) The undertow 02:33, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


It doesn't matter if 150 million Russians would agree. We don't have a reliable source to support that claim (the pronunciation or the claim that all Russians would pronounce it that way). It doesn't matter how she pronounces it. We don't have a reliable source stating how she pronounces it (or an audio file of Maria's pronunciation). Until we have a reliable source of either kind, we are in no position to make this assertion in the article. I agree with [The undertow's position: we should just delete the pronunciation information. If anyone finds a reliable source, then readd the information, with the source. [User:Ufwuct|Ufwuct]] 15:10, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
I think the sources thing is a little bit overdone sometimes. A source on a pronunciation looks kind of silly. This is a "common knowledge" kind of thing; anyone who knows Russian knows how to pronounce "Sharapova", in general. Common knowledge should not usually be sourced.
It's true that migrants sometimes adapt the pronunciation of their names to local tastes (Fujimori was fu-hee-mori in Peru; don't know if he still is now that he's a fugitive from justice in Japan), but I think that would be the thing that would need to be proved.
On a side note, can anyone explain to me just why this mispronunciation was ever adopted in English-speaking countries? It's not as though sha-RA-po-va is hard for an Anglophone to say. We have lots of words stressed on the antepenultimate syllable. It's a little bizarre. --Trovatore 17:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Pronunciation information is unnecessary because this is a written word encyclopedia, and not a linguistics article at that. Normally, pronunciations would not need a source if they are common knowledge. However, we have a veriable source (actually probably many sources) that show another pronunciation, but none for the supposedly correct one. Therefore, no assertion is the best course here. I have therefore removed the pronunciation. Ufwuct 18:40, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

Someone put in Trivia section that she grunts at 1021.2 decibels. I changed it to what I think he meant, 102.12 decibels. Correct me if I'm wrong. - Letsgomets1212 13:58, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Sportsbook reports that "a London tabloid reported that her persistent shrieks topped out at 102 decibels". Given the indirect and unreliable source and the implausibility of the claim, I'm sure this was hyperbole. I certainly don't think it should be stated as "Sharapova's on-court grunts have been measured at 102.12 decibels." I doubt if any actual measurements were involved. -- Xtifr 00:09, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
p.s. fixed. -- Xtifr 00:22, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
The original mark was 101.2 decibels. I haven't touched the article, but I did update it to IMDb once upon a time (I saw it in a paper and IMDb had a lower figure). --Anshelm '77 19:49, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "1021.2 decibels"?

If anyone here's an audiologist | acoustician, would that be audible on how many continents? Would there be earthquakes?

Hopiakuta 01:29, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not an audio-anything, but since the db scale is logarithmic, and since Krakatoa was estimated at 180db, I feel safe in saying that the answers to your questions are: "all" and "yes". In fact, even though space is mostly empty, I think there might still be a danger of marsquakes! :) -- Xtifr 23:52, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this is right, but I think the figure was 10^((1021.2-102.12)/10) = 8.09095899 × 10^91 times too large. --StuartBrady (Talk) 21:02, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is she the "feel so pretty" nike woman?

Is she the "feel so pretty" nike woman?

    Yes she is.  That commerical is pretty annoying, its stuck in my head. Baseracer 16:53, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Hopiakuta 01:29, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NIKE

I think that she is also sponsored by NIKE, but I didn't see it in the endorsements section. Am Wrong?

well, she was wearing the "shwoop" or whatever it's called very prominently (left shoulder) and no other logos while winning the WTA title yesterday. I don't know the facts but you gotta think she mande bank on that! Tzf 17:19, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] trivia

this trivia section in this article is way out of hand. please reduce the trivia entries. find other places in the article to put the info. Kingturtle 23:26, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Masha is not an "affectionate" name. It's a "short" name. You wouldn't say that William Clinton is "affectionately" called Bill, would you? PBH 01:24, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unsourced criticism and rumours

I'm moving this here till someone can source it and word it in a more neutral manner.

Maria is rumoured to be dating tennis player Andy Roddick.
Sharapova is known out on tour as a brat and disliked by most players. Most Russian players, including Anastasia Myskina, do not care for Sharapova because of her father and because of her disloyalty to Russia. The only Russian player that has expressed positive comments about Sharapova is Maria Kirilenko.
She is also known to be arrogant during business deals. At the 2006 US Open Prince Party, Sharapova refused to attend her sponsor's event because she was not paid enough. However, that night, she signed a lifetime deal with Prince. Serpent-A 01:57, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
When you work out as much as she's obviously had to, to become one of the greatest tennis players worldwide, you get to be a little arrogant if you want. Opinion, though, does not wikipedia display. --Chr.K. 02:16, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Maria Sharapova defeated.."

Maria Sharapova defeated the number one player in the world, Amélie Mauresmo, 6-0, 4-6, 6-0. This is the first time that a female has lost 2 love games in US Open history. Next Sharapova will face Justin Henin-Hardenne for the 2006 US Open Championship.

I am a fan of Maria but I don't think this statement is right. Lindsay Davenport double-bagled a player in the earlier rounds. Could this statement be missing the words 'This is the first time that a female has lost 2 love games in the semi-finals of US Open history'?

EDIT: Changed it myself, after reading a source. [5]


[edit] Languages

Does Maria speak Russian? tdwuhs

She surely does. Papushin 01:57, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Banana incident?

Why are there so many references to a banana in her post-US Open interview?

  Because in her match again Tatiana Golovin of France and Justine Henin-Herdenne in the final, Maria's father and her hitting partner
  motioned to her with a banana, and Maria then ate a banana.  They also signaled to her using their fingers, and she would reply with
  the same hand gesture while drinking.  It's controversial b/c some considered it coaching, which is not allowed.

[edit] thanks for adding in the defeating the top 3 players at the same year

Thought it was something sort of important, wanted to add it in myself. Thanks anyway.

About Sharapova's photo, wouldn't a new photo, maybe the one taken during the US Open 2006 be better?


[edit] Moving to America

According to Maria's interview on Jay Leno a few days ago, she said herself that she moved to the US when she was 7... this page previously said 9. I have changed it to 7. If anyone sees reason to change it back, please do so citing your reason. I'm new to making changes, so I don't know if I should leave a footnote on the page stating why it was changed... if anyone with more experience would make the appropriate fixes, I would be grateful.

SlyMaelstrom 19:06, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:SndrAndrss

Could someone revert the last edit by User:SndrAndrss (which replaced a perfectly good creative commons licensed image with a fair-use image), please? I can't do this because of WP:3RR. --StuartBrady (Talk) 19:13, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Note" moved to "References"

There should be no need to have both a "Notes" section and a "References" section. Additionally, neither of the references in the original references section were serving a purpose. The first was a dead link and the second was a duplicate of Note 10 [6]. So I basically renamed the "Notes" section to "References" and eliminated what was previously the "References" section. --Ben Best 03:23, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Should ITF Titles Be Counted In WTA Tour Titles?

I don't think they should be listed with the WTA titles, and instead should be a seperate listing.

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