Talk:Marc Canter
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This seems like a bunch of self-promotion that is not really appropriate for a wikipedia article.
"Broadband Mechanics has also helped Red Herring founder Tony Perkins design and build GoingOn Networks[10]. Broadband Mechanics is also working with Laszlo Systems[11]."
please have this PR crap removed ASAP or ban this page altogether
Marc has asserted in his own blog that he has re-written much (/all?) of the content of this page himself. I personally don't feel that writing one's own entry should be allowed, I also realise that is not Wikipedia policy. Never the less the content of this entry is both self-promoting and biased towards Mr Canter.
He also also said, in the above blog post, that he intends to use this post as a biog. Assuming that one would always wish one's biog to reflect positively upon them, this would imply that any updates that might appear detrimental or negative towards Mr Canter might be removed to maintain the suitability of the content as a biog.
I suggest a roll back towards the last non-MarcCanter update.
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[edit] dude - if the facts are wrong - what am I supposed to do?
....Go ask somebody else to put the correct facts in?
I tried HARD not to bias or slant the changes I put in. In fact the opening line is NOT mine. FYI.
But it's important to get the facts right in this fastly changing world.
And I will continue to do that. As new products, services and standards are released. By me and my company.
-- Marc, while I trust you to do the right thing, I don't believe that the tone is right for Wikipedia. Take for example this sentence:
"Broadband Mechanics builds new kinds of tool and environments which enable everyday people to create and maintain new kinds of online communities."
The tone of that isn't neutral - it's very PR speak. Nothing wrong with that, in the right context - but in the context of Wikipedia it's a puff-piece rather than anything vaguely objective.
I'm not going to personally rewrite this, because I think you'll be keen to do it yourself (and, if truth be told, I don't have the time right now). But I'm sure it'll get sorted out. Ianbetteridge 12:43, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
- "dude - if the facts are wrong - what am I suppsoed to do? ....Go ask somebody else to put the correct facts in?" Yes. Even if you are capable of editing your own bio in a neutral manner, you will find that the job of keeping a Wikipedia page "correct" is frustrating, time-consuming, and more than any person would ever want to take on singlehandedly. Camping on a Wikipedia page that people care about is no fun, because you're constantly dealing with vandalism, clumsy or infactual additions, and other hassles. So if people care about your bio page, you'll be taking up residence here to protect it. And if they don't, who cares what it says? Use your talk page to suggest corrections and trust that editors of your entry will consider them. Rcade 16:43, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] OK - yanked out all puffy marketing smarm
Based upon input from Robert Andresona nd Ian Betteridge - I've gone and pulled out much of teh BBM propoganda and kept the bio to me.
The fact that I am BBM - complicates things - but that's life. I myself - do the conuslting to those clients.
For teh record: - I did NOT author the opening line - so I've left it in. In fact I don;t even know who create dthois page in tehf irst place - But I will stand by my original inctincts - if the page is factual wrong - I have the right to correct it - as anyone else has. I am a person - too. - If there are any MORE complaints - please send them to me: marc [ at ] broadbandmechanics.com - and thank you for your concern. - now the question is: "will the anonymous complainer come forward and reveal his/her identity?" - BTW did you notice how I didn't mention all the mentoring and helping out and schmnoozing behind the scenes and efforts I put in to help change the world?
[edit] OK - so I am officially asking that the ugly tag on the top be removed
Unelss there's some other facts and bias one could argue about - I'm ready to debate.
I even shrunk down the photo - unless you're saying that photo isn't me. Or it makes me seem too attractive.
- I think that tag is some kind of bait to lure Wikipedians to come in and sweep through your bio in an NPOV feeding frenzy. If you take it out yourself, they'll just be that much harder on your edits when they arrive. Rcade 18:36, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
- It's not really NPOV until this stuff is balanced with the account of Marc's career at Macromedia, and why that career ended, is it? Nick Douglas 15:45, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Spelling
It seems that "NAPLIPS" might be a misspelling of NAPLPS. The 'I' should be pronounced but not written.
[edit] Reputation Issues
Lets play a thought experiment. Lets say that business relationships break down between and individual and their cleints. The question that arises is should these be articulated on this page of Marc Canter's life history since this article so heavily highlights his business development aspects. As a social politeness we do not often talk about these things except face-to-face and do not want to bring them into public view on a site like wikipedia but as everyone on the web is a neighbor how do we now share information and invite better behavoir from neighbors.
[edit] Facts are what matter
If the client was a client and they listened and used the info I told them - then the world changed - then it's important to attribute that knowledge to teh source. That's why I'm asking that AOL, Cyworld and EMI get added as clients to my bio. But WOE BE IT FOR ME to do such a thing! But if soembody else wishes to extend truth into the realm of our clients - then they 'could'.
