Talk:Marc Bloch

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[edit] Murdered

Should it not be indicated that Bloch was murdered in Auschwitz due to his Jewishness (unsigned)

No because he was shot in France because he was a resistant--2514 21:50, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ethnicity in lead section

This is a straw poll to determine wider consensus. POLL CLOSED

The sentence with Jewish:

Marc Léopold Benjamin Bloch (July 6, 1886 – June 16, 1944) was a Jewish French historian of medieval France in the period between the First and Second World Wars, and a founder of the Annales School.

The sentence without Jewish:

Marc Léopold Benjamin Bloch (July 6, 1886 – June 16, 1944) was a French historian of medieval France in the period between the First and Second World Wars, and a founder of the Annales School.

Vote Support to keep the mention of Jewish in the lead section in one form or another. Vote Oppose to remove mention of Jewish descent from the lead section.

• Support. It is not uncommon to mention ethnic backgrounds of individuals in the lead section (many Jewish examples on Wikipedia). Bloch was a resistance fighters against the Nazi's, his Jewish descent is of contextual relevance. The WP:LEAD is supposed to be a summary of article contents so its not inappropriate to mention it twice. -- Stbalbach 15:41, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
• Support See the entries of Peter Gay and others where it is mentioned. There is a third choice of adding a second sentence to the lead section that mentions, his Judaism, his work for the resistance, and his death.--Jayrav 19:12, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Good idea, added a new sentence, copy and pasted direct from the article. Assuming it sticks this poll would be concluded. -- Stbalbach 14:38, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

The current version is okay. It may be relevant to write that he was Jewish if you mention that he fought in the resistance during WWII (though Bloch is much better known for his work as a historian than for his role as a resitance fighter).--2514 07:55, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

• From the RFC. I prefer the article as it is now. To say Bloch was "a Jewish French historian" suggests there was a distinct Jewish French school of history, and might even be taken to imply that Bloch's history writing was shaped by his faith. I think that's stretching a point. However, his ethnic background was of importance to his life story, so it should be mentioned. The present version, mentioning his Jewishness in the second sentence, strikes the right balance. Fys. “Ta fys aym”. 12:09, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

• Support. I concur with the previous comment. It is perfect, how it is now -- it features in the lead, but it occurs towards the end of the lead. Wbroun 21:00, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

• POLL CLOSED. CONSENSUS REACHED. Edit the article or start a new poll. Thanks everyone. -- Stbalbach 14:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)