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[edit] Ethnic politics of Khuzestan

Please discuss with other editors on the talk page before deleting large amounts of content from this article. Thank you. --88.110.65.227 16:48, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Silsilat al-nasab-e Safaviyyeh

Hi You were the first non-IP editor of the above article so here I am at your talk page... the article itself does not have a talk page. I got to the article from hitting "random article". However the article does not actually tell me what Silsilat al-nasab-e Safaviyyeh is, just that it is about geneology. ie, is it a song, poem, novella, essay or something else entirely?

As you were a very early editor of the article I was hoping you are aware of what form the Silsilat al-nasab-e Safaviyyeh takes and could clarify the article for those of us who don't even know "it's a book" (or whatever it happens to be).

Although it seems you have a large number of contributions and may not get back to what might be a trivial cultural item (I am not sure if it is a geneology of a significant or a trivial family).

BTW: you may need to archive your talk page... Garrie 05:35, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi.

It is a book about hagiography and genealogy of one of the most important dynasties (Safavids) in the Persian history.

I added the word book to the article.

Thanks for your attention, take care, --Mani1 09:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Malformed AfD

Mani, I removed the AfD notice from the Anti-Arabism page, because it was not technically correct and you didn't do the other necessary steps in nominating. Also, based on your edit summary people would probably accuse you of a WP:POINT violation. But feel free to re-nominate (ask me if you need help how to do it) - I said I'd support deletion of parallel articles, and so I will, although this one strikes me as slightly better than the other. Lukas (T.|@) 22:16, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi.

It seems you are more familiar with the technically correct deletion processes. As you have gone through this trouble for trying to delete the informative article Anti-Persianism by Arabs, you are naturally expected to do the same for all such articles, otherwise you have been acting biased and selective. --Mani1 22:28, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Well no, I'm under no obligation. My time is just as limited as yours, and right now it's late at night here. Besides, my secret employers pay me only for vandalising Pro-Iranian articles, obviously, as Sina Kardar will be able to confirm. If you want to nominate and can't be bothered to ask me nicely, well, there are instructions at WP:AFD. But do read WP:POINT too. Lukas (T.|@) 22:34, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
I will nimonate that article in a technically correct way, the first moment I'll have more time for it. You should do the same for all such articles or pull back your nomination of the Anti-Persianism article if you wish to be unbiased and non-selective. You are of course not obliged to be unbised but we are also free to resist biased attacks on our informative and well-researched articles.

--Mani1 22:42, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The deletion tag

Salaam Mani jaan. You shouldn't remove the deletion tag until the voting is over and the AFD is officially closed by an administrator. Also, we had a long discussion on the talk page and we picked the title "Anti-Persian sentiments" which is more general and NPOV. --ManiF 10:38, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. But the "Anti-Persian sentiments" is a totally vague title, sentiments by who? where? when?

Take care. --Mani1 10:46, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, the who, where, and when is already discussed in the article. Chakerim. --ManiF 11:21, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Please revert LukasPietschs racist comments from my talk. he is harassing me and I have a right to remove such attacks. Khorshid 12:28, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Iranian peoples

Salam. Yeh negayeh kon beh in harfayi User:Tombseye enja, Talk:Iranian peoples. Mamnoon. Kouroush 14:31, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] eyval interwiki

mibinam ke 3soot magale haro interwiki mizani :)--Meisam.fa 09:31, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Ma ba iki-saniyeh bozorg shodim! --Mani1 09:38, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Persian"?

Mani, you recently changed "Farsi" to "Persian", stating it is the correct term in English. Is "Farsi" politically incorrect? I hear it much more frequently than "Persian" in writing. You would probably know more about it than I do, but I was just curious about where you got that information.--The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 17:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi.

"Farsi" is the Persian word for Persian. Writing "I speak Farsi" is as wrong as writing "I speak Deutsch".

I attract your attention to the announcement of The Academy of the Persian Language and Literature (Farhangestan) on this matter:

  • "Persian" has been used in a variety of publications including cultural, scientific and diplomatic documents for centuries and, therefore, it carries a very significant historical and cultural meaning. Hence, changing "Persian" to "Farsi" would negate this established important precedent.
  • Changing the usage from "Persian" to "Farsi" may give the impression that Farsi is a new language, although this may well be the intention of some users of Farsi.
  • Changing the usage may also give the impression that Farsi is a dialect used in some parts of Iran rather than the predominant (and official) language of the country.
  • The word "Farsi" has never been used in any research paper or university document in any Western language, and the proposal to begin using it would create doubt and ambiguity about the name of the official language of Iran.
Comment I agree with you in general that Persian is the correct term for the language, but I disagree that Farsi is not used in English. You may not consider these to be research papers or university documents, but never is a tough word to use correctly. Here are just a few recent examples: Bejnar 20:26, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Hard numbers.(Currents). Columbia Journalism Review 43.6 (March-April 2005): p15 “75,000: Estimated number of blogs written in Farsi.”
  • Women of the Afghan War.(Book Review). Shahrzad Mojab. Canadian Woman Studies 22.2 (Fall 2002): p160, “The English literature on Afghan women is growing, though it still lags behind the coverage of Afghan women's suffering, struggle, and resistance in Farsi (Persian), Dari or other regional languages.”
  • The early phonological development of a Farsi-English bilingual child. Mohammad Hossein Keshavarz and David Ingram. International Journal of Bilingualism 6.3 (Sept 2002): p255, “Analyses of data from a longitudinal study of a Farsi-English bilingual infant, Arsham, supported the hypothesis that the child had acquired two separate phonologies with mutual influence; that is, he made occasional use of phonological features of Farsi in English words and vice-versa.”
  • Afghan Buzkashi: Power Games and Gamesmen. (Book Reviews). Ali A. Jalali. Parameters 31.4 (Winter 2001): p156, “Reviewed by Ali A. Jalali, former Afghan colonel and author of several books on Afghan military history, including The Other Side of the Mountain, coauthored with Lester Grau. Mr. Jalali is Chief of the Farsi (Persian) Service at the Voice of America, Washington, D.C.”

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Take care. --Mani1 18:54, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

OK, Thank you for clarifying.......I thought the term "Persian" went out with the name "Persia." Thanks for clarifying.--The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 13:53, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi Mani. Someone wrote: 'The word "Farsi" has never been used in any research paper or university document in any Western language.' I must disagree. Since so many people speak about 'Farsi' when they mean 'Persian', I thought it would be wisest to compromise and have both 'Persian' and 'Farsi' mentioned in the text, just to honour different opinons. Heroica Sophia

[edit] Your message

Anjam shod :) --Zereshk 04:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

آقا دست شما درد نکند. خیلی حال دادی. هر موقع هر کاری بود که ما می توانستیم انجام بدهیم در خدمت هستیم.

قربان شما. --Mani1 08:45, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sheitoona!

Didam chi kar kardin, afarin! --(Aytakin) | Talk 00:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Mani1, you re-creation of the article Misconceptions about Iran without the agreement of the admin in charge of the AfD is "not" a sign of valuing the policies. My personal opinion is that it was much better to discuss the matter with the admin in charge as I did ([1]). With all respect, I've asked the article to be removed till the User:JDoorjam comes back (he is on a short break) so that we may chat with him on this matter. Please feel free to leave a bitter message on my talk page if you would like. Regards, --Aminz 09:24, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Aminz, you're right. Discussing the matter beforhand is better. Thanks for the message. --Mani1 09:59, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Dear Mani1, Thank you so much for your kindness. --Aminz 10:02, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Fārsi

Fārsi is a transliteration of فارسی that is why it was in parentheses after the word Persian. It was not out of ignorance, it was to help those who know Persian by the sound of its Arabic name. Bejnar 20:07, 3 August 2006 (UTC) I have made this clearer in the Iran article. Bejnar 20:36, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi.

We can not just mess with the official names of the languages of the countries to help people who know little to recognise their wrong spellings of the names. --Mani1 07:51, 4 August 2006 (UTC) Fārsi is not a wrong spelling. It is a widely used term for Persian in Persia and elsewhere. Also you said that parallel names for the official language were not used for other Wikipedia country articles. Have you looked at India? What do you have against the use of the word Fārsi in the appropriate context of a transliteration of the official name for the country's language? Bejnar 14:30, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Look for the answers under the title "Persian"? up here in this user talk page. --Mani1 12:57, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] link to Persian

Hello, when you want to link to the article about something Persian, please do not link to Persian, as that is a disambiguation page (which nothing should be linked to). Instead link to the one of the options found on that page such as Persian people, Persian language, or Iran, by writing out [[Persian language|Persian]] or [[Iran|Persian]]. Regards, Jeff3000 06:17, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Email

Please add your email in "my preferences". Khorshid 21:03, 17 November 2006 (UTC)