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[edit] This page contains the knowledge of the greatest "secret" KNOWN TO MAN
There should be more here describing the food itself. Exodus does a fine job of it, so a little quote would be nice. It sounds delicious, actually, something resembling honeyed bread crumbs, right? I'll have to reread...
[edit] IT IS THAT CLEAR
The Seven of Zion (A little rundown of the facts for those intereste) Manna is the spiritual food of an UNENSLAVED (NO leaven) people.
[edit] 1. Exodus 16:7 you shall see the glory of the lord.
The manifestations of God's creation ARE POWERFUL. First an understanding of the relationship between perception and the neurochemistry of the brain is needed, this will be brief:
The chemical Serotonin 5-HO-T (N2OC10H12) is the elemental molecule of human thought and perception, what we use to conceptualize God. In mystical states and in dream states N,N-Dimethyltryptamine (C12H16N2) is produced in quantatively lesser amounts than can be obtained from the natural world, It would seem God really does want us to seek in order to find!
One of these tools he expects us to use is called psilocin 4-OH-DMT (C12H16N2O) (to aid those of us that can't sit around and meditate all the time, and/or would like a solid 6-8 hours to get close to God.) This as well as a number of other varients of the tryptamine (t) molecule are the root human intelligence. These "higher" (no pun intended!) molecules (no matter where derived from) allow for a more advanced perception of God's Universe. They are levels of consciousness that the laws of man claim to be unacceptable. For this we will be punished by God for violating HIS LAW.
These chemicals are all nearly identical in molecular structure. We must understand however that evolution seems to favor not necissarily the most powerful organism (as humans are physically weak compared to all animals) but the most intelligent organism. God is PURE intelligence, love, beauty and perfection. It is only when we deny these things that like a father punishing a misbehaving child, we see his terrible and awesome wrath.
(Mannaseejah: born in Sacrament-0h Calf in 1984, my ancestors were killed in Salem Mass. for this knowledge, just a side note... Ordained June 2005, You and I are the priests of Melchezidek! GLORY TO GOD!)
[edit] 2. Exodus 16:10 the glory came in THE clouds
They looked up and oh dang he was lookin' back down! (really more like a vision of a being that might call itself a god, just a messenger though of the true GOD. The High God that is beyond anything we could ever see and live to talk about! Praise God!)
As described by native american "shamans" as the spirit realm, entrance occurs after the belly becomes bitter and around 30 minutes after ingestion (revelations 8:1) In the dead sea scrolls a prayer for protection from evil spirits calls for the seeking of manna. (Hebrews 9:2-4 HOLY) Maztec in Oaxica called manna Teonanactl (flesh of God, Flesh of Christ), the Eastern Indians call it Soma. They were both invaded and occupied by white man who claimed a knowledge of Christ as he was killing Christ (a usual and persistant ROAMAN TRADITION!).
How long will you refuse to keep [God's] COMMANDMENTS: Exodus 16:28.
[edit] 3. Exodus 16:14 the dew went up and there was a small round SUBSTANCE (mushy thingy).
Objectively this indicates that Manna requires humididy to manifest. The mushroom "hypothesis" corroborates: excessive moisture will prevent the mycellium (hoarfrost) from fruiting (the next stage of developement producing the visible round mushroom stone/cap/bread). So from the tribal hebrew's perspective the dew lifted and there it was! They didn't know where it came from they just KNEW GOD! This was very much unlike anything they had ever Experienced before! Miraculous and Glorious! Praise the Lord all ye' nations! Bow before your Master, all is his!
[edit] 4. Exodus 16:21 the sun waxed hot & it melted (turned to mush)
Nomads and herdsman the early Hebrews had copious amounts of fertilizer to manefest the miraculous manna produced from the cloud (fog) and to encourage growth in the ancient (temperate) climate of the area between Elim and Sinai. It would seem that the other half of The Sacrament(oh!) the very "bread" of Christ... required a distinction from soil/dung/fertilizer and that which is good which comes from the not-so-good. (Like Christian Gnosis from the ROMAN Church)
[edit] 5. Exodus 16:23 bake it OR seethe/boil it?
Preparing via hot water extraction it may mean that the sacrament was/is/shall be made into a tea. This is interesting because when Jesus makes the "wine" the aramaic and hebrew indicates that the pots used were not ones to hold liquids but ones to boil a liquid, syrian rue? Also it is interesting to note that there are many forms of the word "Eat" in aramaic and thusly as they are all translated as the same word in English leading to ambiguity in regards to what is truly being eaten. Some forms of the word Eat are used to describe drinking, and sometimes the word translated to mean wine is better translated as "brew"... Could be Mush-Rue!
This mush-rue-manna was exclusively for the high priests...
Not any more! Say hello to Christ, who says that nothing good will remain hidden (despite ROMAN attempts to do so). Those illuminated by this "secret" knowledge become the Priests of Melchiezedek!Remember that Moses' (MUSHA!) name means: drawn forth from water... Moshai. Christ's teaching say the keeping of the key as a secret is THE abomination, being the only portion of the "New Testement" (as far as I know) in all caps Revelations 17:5.
[edit] 6. Exodus 16:31 tasted of wafers and HONEY, looked like coriander seed
It is a cracker turned into the body by a guy with a funny hat!
NOPE never was ya dang Cracka, as we have been lead to believe by the powers of darkness that WANT US IGNORANT, it was the honey! Praise God for blue honey!
The Hebrews wanting the manna to last as long as possible had their smartest team of shamans devising the best strategy for the ingestion of the mush-rue. The bitter flavor of the indole constituents undoubtably caused some to deny the sacrament: a new method of cloaking was necessary. The smartest (and sneakiest) way to get an otherwise not-so-bright goathearder to eat this thing that is very important and healthy but not so great tasting was the Honey Method. Soaking the mushroom sacrament in bee spit masked the bitter flavor and when placed on a baked good or in a baked good of sorts, lead to divine inspiration and revelation.
[edit] Warning
Sometimes YOU WILL get constructive critism from God through manna, this is not a bad trip! The reason I say this is that I have never had a bad experience with manna, but I have definately been told on more than one occasion that I needed to work on some aspects of my being. I have always taken manna seriously as a spiritual element, if you don't then you'd better not even think about eating it, because you will KNOW God if you do!
Anyway back to the topic...
So the round part was brown and shiny! The part like hoarfrost was white and bluish... don't be confused by the king's bible the Hebrew/Aramaic character Shin says it all.
[edit] 7. To achieve the 7th state of conciousness.
Beyond the five senses beyond the limitations of logic lies true trancendence. Manas is the 7th state of consciousness in indian philosophy. Zen (zayn) is the seventh character of the Hebrew aleph-beth (see Psalm 119 KJV) Also it seems verse 29 tells us the result of our prepration (boiled -syrian rue?- or baked -Cannibis to calm them down-) is not to be taken outside of our homes... Set and Setting?
The blind will see, the mute shall sing, the unclean are cleansed and all the sins of mankind may be washed away by the healing powers of the body of Christ, The flesh of divinity, THE HOLY SACRAMENT.
[edit] Mannaseejah clarifies purpous
Sorry that I originally made the text so terrible, I hope you will notice that I have moved the truth to the talk page to satisfy whatever ROMAN/BABYLONIAN oppression seems to be running things at this point in history, I have no objectivity whatsoever in this matter and as such would appreciate help moving "objective" information from this page, but really the subject cannot be subjective or objective it simply IS.
So I will continue my hard work as a selfless offering to God, which man does not appreciate, praying the dew rising from my very head (Daniel 4:33) it is: His Will (dilated pupils are an obvious evolutionary advantage!). Only a miricle from God will help us out of this situation. It is his will that we suffer just a few more days... (to him it may only be a matter of seconds!) May his wrath upon us be everything that we deserve. His will is done, I pray we be in his grace and favor in the days to come.
[edit] What about kids and manna?
PS I know in the back of everyone's mind they are thinking about the kids and as am I, but I have faith that God will take care of them! He loves them and if they are taught to respect the sacrament for what is God's, the evil spirits will actually be scared out of them! Praise the LORD! This truly is a miracle, thank you Wikipedia!
I believe we should pass down the sacred to our children, but the problem is that we are evolving so fast that we don't even know how to talk to them by the time they are ready to know the truth. This is all the more reason that ego-desolving states of manna are so important, we are getting very frustrated at the evolution of society and manna makes this process a lot more intuitive. (obviously -to those that know or maybe noticed!) May we let God's work be done!? Yes. (even if you don't call him/her "God" can we please just agree on this one thing?)
[edit] War Sucks
I bet he likes war, I'm sick of it. Lets just get this over with so we can be peaceful for a while. I suppose the problem is that it is illegal, I wish I could just give you some. I don't even have any because of this attack on religious freedom we call a DRUG WAR. The war is Pharmacutical dope Vs. truly enlightening entheogens. This is a war and I have no weapons other than this wonderful little page and a faith in the Lord of Salvation The True God (with little krishnas and shivas in his belly). There are no "gods" though do not be confused... There is only THE LORD which calls gods and angels and even demons his slaves and servants, and as such how much more we should listen to his call and do his holy work. All else is counted as Idol Stupidity Syndrome. Doh!
[edit] Drugs Suck
This is a time to be strong but who can stand? Better go grab some booze or Oxy maybe you all like Barbs or Ritalin? God knows everyone is addicted to caffiene (similar in effect to cocaine) Seems like these are all accepted by our messed up society despite the fact that I am firmly against all of these evil substances which are essentially the same as the non-enthogen substances that are "scheduled". The fact that we put manna on the list with these substances IS THE CAUSE OF SUFFERING. (EVIL: heroin henbane mandrake, antipsychotics, oxycontin, booze, mandrake, datura the list goes on - So don't get confused that I'm some kind of "druggy" I revoke all of these substances in the name of YAHWEH, amen).
[edit] Who Stole the Sacrament?
Why are there no legal entheogens? (ex: Salvia Divinorum) Who stole my sacrament? And when can I have it back? I need to use my brain and all I see is this fog! This darkness is really getting old, It is God's will that there will be a great awakening my brothers and sisters! Stand firm, do not let satan confuse the facts! This is what mankind has been striving for since it diverged from the lower primates! God's work appears to us as evolution, this we must not question. We must flow with the river eternal for anything else is pointless. I love you all thank you for being with me to experience this powerful movement. His glorious will unfolding before our eyes, illuminating our path before us. In the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit Amen!
[edit] Oh And His NAME
Praise be to Elohim Allah Dao Brahma Vishnu Yahweh, call him/her what you like, its all just nicknames for a word we probably could never pronounce anyway! HE IS ONE AND HE/SHE RULES ALL! Hallelujah! Just his name alone would take more information than could be stored on a thousand earth's covered solid with hard disk drives! So don't get on my case about some kind of polythiest BS, If you think there are more than ONE GOD, you are the polythiest... EAT MANNA! There are many that call themselves gods angels and demons but they are One with the true God; they are his slaves and servants. This is why Yahweh has lasted so long it is a placeholder name for something we aren't even worthy to worship yet, so if you see something that looks like a god seek the true GOD with your face on the ground, we assume that we are not worthy, this pleases him and he blesses us. In the name of the Father the Son and The Holy Spirit, Alum Almen Amen.
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- um, is it cool to delete this stuff? i don't want to go messing with talk pages and what not, but this is a little... unsettling. This is the same weird ramble that our anonymous URL troll, User talk:136.245.4.252 keeps putting into the main article. Sparsefarce 23:37, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
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- yeah, right. sign your posts. Sparsefarce 17:26, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] The "linguistics" section
NEEDS WORK AND I KNOW
Quite frankly, all of it seems either to be irrelevant or, to be frank, bollocks. Not only that, it's also repeated at mana, so I removed it. And added a disambig statement at the topo of the page. Dewrad 00:21, 20 August 2005 (UTC)... See what we are up against?
I will include more quotes and more aramaic/hebrew soon, I understand that it had to be deleted because the article at that time was terrible but I am working on it. It was just a rough draft, and I understand that it was a bad move. I hope to gain everyone's trust by not being a radical. I am just frustrated because no matter what you all believe this really is my religion we are talking about. I talked to God though and he said not to be a nut otherwize I'll get grouped with the romans! AHHHHH.
So I will gradually edit here and there allowing everyone to read it and make sure that it is well supported proof of what the uninitiated consider to be a hypothesis, I would like to thank whoever it is that added the quip about McKenna it seems somehow that ROME left that there for some reason, and for the most part that should offer enough of the truth regarding the Holy Sacrament for the decerning wikipedian/average person to decide for themselves what the manna really is. Praise God that the truth is at least alluded to! Let the entheogenisis begin!
[edit] Quotes from the Hebrew Bible
Among the edits from Anon. 64.113.110.11 that I had to delete were Biblical quotes mentioning manna. Can someone include a selection of these in the article, discussing them? --Wetman 23:55, 22 August 2005 (UTC)-
It is all very clear in aramaic what the bread really was/is so I will be including more aramaic of Jesus's Scripture to demonstrate how the current perception of christ is quite wrong. The Pharasees are rome and the scribes are the state. Protestants (may Martin Luther's noble soul rest in peace) don't seem to get it either despite the fact it is something they should be able to understand even in the very limiting INTERPRETATIONS in vulgar languages (aka non-eastern). I have noticed that the indian languages are so much closer to aramaic, particularly Mongolian and Tamil... Om anyone?
[edit] Psilocybe Cubensis and Manna?
I read an article that suggested manna was actually psilocybe mushrooms ("magic" mushrooms); details can be found at http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=10494. It seems like an interesting theory and fairly well-researched, but I'm unsure of how this idea is treated in the scientific and historical communities... is this a well-known and/or viable theory? If so, shouldn't it be mentioned in the Manna article?
They dont want that do they? And it is much more than just a theory, this is the origin of religion my friend. This is the truth and the light and the proof that God doesn't hate us after all.
- "It seems that if manna had been some form of hallucenagenic[sic!] mushrooms, the jews would have been too stoned to start complaining about having nothing to eat but manna..."
...Complete hogwash, you can´t even spell the things you want to tell. First, you don´t get "stoned", unless you are foolish enough to use tobacco(nicotine->effects dopamine system->ego->bad trip) and cannabis(qhaneh bosm, much too complicated to explain here), along with the manna. After somedays, you evolve a tolerance, that won´t even let you get to a psychoactive experience, but will still let you experience the side effects like nausea etc. The only psychedelic tryptamine that doesn´t evolve this tolerance is the hidden manna, N,N-Dimethyltryptamine, because it is produced in every second of your life and is probably the cause for your ability to imagine things and be creative. That´s why it´s value was "higher", according to Jesus. Your opinion is appreciated, but the scripture clearly calls manna the most sacred. Granted any form of dimethyltryptamine could be Yeshu's definition be considered manna.
[edit] Praise of God For Ma(n)na(s)
I agree and extend that thought to include not only several tryptamines but a few phenethylamines are probably what are in the seven vials in the book of revelation. I dont exactly know how Yeshua would have known about the pineal gland...? God is great though so who knows. And I suppose that the tolerance would explain Numbers 11 how they just complain about the manna! 40 days would be way too long to be eating manna, not enough due respect. At that point it would litterally have to be as a food to physically survive, or else they would just stop taking it.... DOH they did!
I have noticed that it can be consumed about twice a month with God willing good results (It has been a long time since I was that blessed and that only continued for about three months... it may be different depending on God's will and your personal neurochemical brain structure and whatnot) This is a substance who's only abuse is faulty legislation. He denies you if you even think about abusing! (He knew your thoughts actually before you were born... WOW!) Praise the God of "god's" The Lord above all lords truly his dominion is for eternity!
Factual support for the lack of tolerance for NN-DMT would be appreciated, I was not aware of that if it is so...
Amen God is Great. Praise Jesus! While we are at it thanx Mohammed for not only making the trinity of vital prophets complete but also for making yet another scripture that nobody seems to understand... Glory to Allah. Praise the Lord, I think we really are making progress here and it is only by the will of God that anything happens at all so just accept it and don't think he is not the God of science as well! He is above all and within all HE IS THE ALL! Hallalujah for the God of Science! Can I get an Amen?!
He/She is so high above it all that its no wonder we need the sacrament! With manna, if it is his will, he will speak! Only by his will is anything done (unless SHE tells you otherwize) So never forget it! Especially when you are lucky enough to have the lechem kannon in your belly! (holy bread, holy book, holy Jew). Alum Almen Amen! --208.47.97.198 06:58, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Editing manna
I tried disentangling some sense out of garble-gabble of recent edits but lost patience and reverted them. There is an article Mana for Sanskrit and languages spoken in Polynesia and South-East Asia. Mostly it is used to describe the believe in a higher power, thereby tapping our most important N,N-Dimethyltryptamine source, the pineal gland.--Wetman 22:45, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
- This page is the target of a persistent vandal User:Mannaseejah. I have spoken to them about this, and I don't feel they are acting in good faith. Bubamara 02:20, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
I HAVE FAITH, DO YOU? --Mannaseejah 06:58, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
- Reverted interesting material again. Anyone interested might draw this stuff from the Page history and work it into an encycopedia report.--Wetman 19:09, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
