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[edit] Unverified image

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[edit] Thankyou!

Hey, thanks for adding content to my PowerMac 6100 article, I appericiate the help! CoolFox 21:56, May 10, 2005 (UTC) By the way, I did create the article, but it wasn't until latter that I created a user profile. Maybe you can help on some of the other macintosh pages that need filling. We still need a PowerMac 9600 page if I'm not mistaken.

[edit] Cyrillic

Great map! But Mongolia also uses the Khalka Mongol script, so it should be light green. Chris 21:08, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Olá! Também você precisa notar que na Moldávia, na República da Transnístria, o cirílico se usa como o alfabeto oficial. Em outras regiões da Moldávia, o cirílico se usa por alguns grupos de pessoas. A situação é quase mesma no Aserbaidjão e Turquemenistão, onde quase 50% de pessoas usa o cirílico. Mas no Usbequistão se usam ambos alfabetos oficialmente. Deve ser verde claro, como Moldávia, Aserbeidjão e Turquemenistão e Mongólia. Desculpa se tem erros, especialmente nos nomes destos países! Saudações da Sérviã! P.S. Estudava na UNICAMP um pouco :) Zhix 23:30, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Latin alphabet map

I love the map! Great work. Also, would Japanese's use of Rōmaji be enough to be included? It is often considered to be the fourth writing system for Japanese (along with kanji, hiragana, and katakana. Xyzzyva 22:51, 13 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Image Tagging Image:Independent State of Croatia Map.jpg

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[edit] Igor Smirnov

... is the Russian President of the internationally unrecognized republic of Transnistria. - The sentence makes his nationality just as important as his position. I don't think that this is a correct way to mention it. For example, Stalin is not called "the Georgian leader of the Soviet Union", nor is Catherine the Great called "the Prussian Empress of the Russian Empire". --Illythr 18:47, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello? Any comments or reasons? --Illythr 00:15, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

--- Hi Illythr,

I've written the nationality of Igor Smirnov in that manner in the article because I would like to emphasize the fact that he's not from Moldova or Transnistria, and the fact that the Transnistria administration is closely linked to the Kremlin, basically.--MaGioZal 04:13, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi MaGioZal,
Well, I'm a Russian too (well, it's complicated, but that's what my passport says). Does that mean that I make my edits in Wikipedia on behalf of Kremlin as well? I resent the implicit generalization, that Smirnov's administration is closely linked to the Kremlin because he is Russian and not because he's a Pro-Russian authoritarian Communist or whatever. See above for some obvious examples. While it is indeed worth mentioning that the Transnistrian administration is dependent on the Russian one (if it's properly referenced and all), that is certainly not the way to do so. I intend to move his nationality to a less prominent place, like his biography. --Illythr 12:08, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
PS: Assuming good will, I believe it was not your intention to make it look like all Russians are Kremlin agents or whatever. But that's what the sentence currently implies. Perhaps you might be willing to alter it yourself, now that I have (hopefully) clarified the issue.

Sincerely, --Illythr 13:33, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Oops, well, too late... :) --Illythr 01:11, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Breakthrough and Icdiss

Hi MaGioZal, (or "Yo, Zal!", as Bush would say), I am the original author of the Breakthrough (Transnistria) stub and when I checked 'What links here' I saw that you have it as a See Also wikilink in the Icdiss-article. I felt like deleting that, because I honestly don't see the relevance or the connection at all, but I thought that I would ask you first. - Mauco 22:43, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Mauco,
I’ve put the link to Breakthrough (Transnistria) in the ICDISS article because I think there is a relation between them, as two groups that started as NGO’s that support the international recognition of the separation of Transnistria from Moldova. That’s it.--MaGioZal 23:08, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
MaGioZal, I liked your other edits to the Icdiss article, thanks! But I honestly feel that the Breakthrough thing is a bit, well, shall we say, "contrived". There are many more Wikipedia articles which I can think of that would fit better into the 'See Also' section of the Icdiss article, for instance Astroturfing (although the jury is apparently still out on that one, and another one of my concerns is how fast we are editing and changing the original article without hearing the other side of the story.) Anyway, it is not a big deal for me. I am not going to worry too much if we let the Breakthrough link stay, and if you will be offended about it if I take it out, then I would rather just keep it and we'll stay friends. - Mauco 23:24, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] abkhaz flag

Dear Magiozal, sorry for late response :( that flag of de jure Abkhaz Government was taken from their former web site. It later was removed due to construction. Do you need the description of that flag? Also here is theSoviet Abkhaz flag Image:Sovietabkhazflag.jpg. Let me know. All the best. Ldingley 15:22, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Transnistria

Hi, Magiozal, there are some controversy about the article Transnistria, maybe you want to discuss them in Transnistria's discussion page.--MariusM 07:30, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, please, Magiozal - we could use your balanced and clearheaded input on this one. See the Talk-page on Transnistria for some background. - Mauco 07:32, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Transnistria related articles

I agree with you. I already made 4 3RR reports regarding Mauco, but administrators were very soft on him, he received only warnings [1], [2], in ne report I forget to include a previous version [3] and one report is still pending for many days without a decision taken [4]. It feels like rules doesn't apply to Mauco. I asked 2 mediation with him and he refused [5], [6]. I don't know what else to do, I am new here and don't know all the procedures. There are many falacies that he wanted to promote in Wikipedia, proved in Transnistria talk page (he archived the relevant comments for a much difficult availability) and I know he is a writer for "Tiraspol Times" an online newspaper (is not proved that this newspaper can be found on the streets of Tiraspol) which make propaganda for Transnistria's independence [7]. I will apreciate your advice.--MariusM 22:39, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Wouldn't it also be a fallacy (as MariusM calls it, without documenting just what he refers to) to claim that I am "a writer for Tiraspol Times" as he says. I received an email from them, inviting me to pen a guest column. Before I accepted, I discussed it with the Wikipedia community in the Talk page for Transnistria. I specifically requested not to be censored in any way and they respected my wish. I was not paid for my work (see http://www.tiraspoltimes.com/jobs.html where they say that they do not pay for Letters to the Editor and other opinion things like that). This is similar to guest writers on the OpEd pages of the New York Times. They are hardly "writers for the New York Times" unless the person who says so is trying to deceive. - Mauco 23:03, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Say, who' the other "Pro-Putin mini-dictator"? Me?
It's also might be nice to try and talk to the suspects first. To gather more evidence and all... they won't bite you, promise! ;-)

--Illythr 23:19, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

I was kind of wondering about the same thing. I must admit that I didn't suspect you, Illythr. My money would be on MarkStreet, but then I disgarded that because he never made a single edit in mainspace so he could hardly be said to control the article in any way, shape or form (and today he left in disgust,[8] after the final round of abuse from MariusM). Then I thought "could it be Mikka" but he posts one comment a week, at most. I am at a complete loss as to who the other mini-dictator could be (whereas it will be easy for me to identify the Latvians and Romanians which are all active now, thanks to invitations and solicitations by MariusM who publicly posted invitations for them to get involved). Anyway, I have no opinion on Putin. My work on Wikipedia deals with Transnistria and Moldova. - Mauco 23:30, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks Illythr for the constant attention you have on my talk page (same for Mauco). I understand that you feel targeted by MaGiozal comments, but I don't believe it was about you. Mauco, what abuse I did against MarkStreet? Telling him that I don't consider him the only voice of Transnistria, as he claimed, is an abuse? MaGioZal, what you believe, which is the appropiate way to deal when an user like Mauco is making unfounded accusation against me? I am relatively new at Wikipedia, this is why I am asking your opinion.--MariusM 23:42, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Since there is a question for me in the above tirade, I will answer it here. If MaGio feels that this is cluttering up his Talk page just delete me. The abuse that I feel that MariusM did against MarkStreet: Telling him that his entries (which MariusM called "plain fallacies") should not be added to the talk page. A TALK-page, for crying out loud. Not an edit in mainspace. I made it clear that everyone has a right an opinion, regardless of if we agree with it or not. Even so, MarkStreet decided to not hang around. These endless pissing matches and he-said/she-said childish games are really getting us nowhere. - Mauco 01:01, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] redirect for discussion

Please do not remove {{rfd}} until the discussion is completed. Thanks. // Laughing Man 13:03, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

But the discussion is already completed: you argued for deletion, 2' votes appeared against it, no Administrator or memeber of Arbitration Comitee manifested, so for now the redirect will be kept.--MaGioZal 13:09, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Although you might wish it be completed already, it is not. RFDs are normally kept open for about a week to let others give there feedback. After the appropriate time, an administrator will close (archive) the discussion, and state the consensus decision. So in the meantime, please relax and be patient. Do not remove the notice until the discussion is closed. Thank you. // Laughing Man 14:57, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Community for Democracy and Human Rights

I have a published source which claims that this organization was set up by Modest Kolerov, from the Kremlin, and that it was his idea. I am a bit worried about including it unless I can get a second independent confirmation. Do you know anything about this? Does it ring a bell? - Mauco 22:17, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Man, I’ve got no idea. I Googleled around and that’s what I've found about “Human Rights” and “Modest Kolerov”:
--MaGioZal 18:18, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

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Couldn't we find a picture where Socor looks less retarded? I know he is ugly, but really, the one you picked is truly scary and if would be nicer to the guy if we can find a better one for his bio article. - Mauco 03:06, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, I know there’s more images of Vladimir Socor around, but I’ve used this specific picture from Jamestown Foundation website because I thought that it woul be more suitable for fair use in the article.--MaGioZal 18:49, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Reverting hastly without discussion the modifications made on the page is at least unpolite

So is making major changes to controversial articles without discussion first. // Laughing Man 15:40, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

But my modifications was not so major; and it have to appear in the article to be discussed later. In many cases, I just added to the infoboxes infos already present in the rest of the article (for example, adding “part of Bosnian War” in the infobox related to Operation Deliberate Force).-MaGioZal 19:58, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Who's hiding?

I'm Estavisti, I've just decided to go back to being one of the great unwashed. And where am I spreading "Greater Serbian propaganda" (whatever that is)? Because I asked you to back up your claims on Republika Srpska?--86.134.161.218 20:23, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

And this is priceless: "It’s very easy to hide behind an “IP mask” to make spread Greater Serbia propaganda. But I can assure you, it’ll be tough task to hide some facts". You're the one engaging in petty name calling and mindless labeling, and avoiding factual arguments.--86.134.161.218 20:25, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

It seems interesting the fact that you’ve said you’re quitting to edit Wikipedia articles on one side, but on the other side you use an anonymous IP to go on editing the Srpska article. It’s something similar to socket puppetry…
And about the template of NPOV doubt, I’ve just put it because the section seemed a long sermon favoring the annexation of Srpska to Serbia, including even long excerpts of interviews with Serb ministers. Wikipedia, as far as I know, is not a news website — Wikinews arleady exists.--MaGioZal 02:16, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User notice: temporary 3RR block

[edit] Re: User notice: temporary 3RR block

OK. I’m sorry.

I thought I wasn’t violating this rule because my last edit wasn’t for me a “real revert” (I mean, taking one page from history and saving it), as the same way as I also think that was not me that initiated the edit wars, but the users User:TheFEARgod (which is having a aggressive posture towards my edits and opinions, but that’s another history) and User:Laughing Man (which it seems like just violated the 3RR rule on that template like me, too).

I’ve got the same vision regarding recent edit disputes in 1995 NATO bombing in Bosnia and Herzegovina and 1999 NATO bombing in Yugoslavia articles.

Sincerely talking that wasn’t my intention just to make many editings and revertings without explaining the reason why — one proof of this is that I discussed many times the reason of my edits on the talk page of the template and other articles cited above, too. I’ve used my right of freedom of speech at the fullest extent here in Wikipedia, but trying as best as I could to avoid personal attacks.

My intention, as mentioned already on talk pages related to the subject, was just to make the articles being more balanced. I’ve got my personal opinions about Yugoslav Wars and their perpretators and crimes, but I was trying the best as I can to make the articles not pro-this or pro-that, but just a little more equlibrated agains biases and more coherent to non-Wiki articles around the world on this matter.

That’s my point of view.

But, if I really violated some rule here in Wikipedia, all I have to do now is to cool things, wait, and say again: I’m sorry.

That’s it.

--MaGioZal 00:23, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding reversions[9] made on November 27, 2006 to Template:Campaignbox Yugoslav Wars

You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future.
The duration of the block is 24 hours. William M. Connolley 22:16, 27 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Teste

1,2,3…

[edit] Serbs?

Why do you seem not to like them (by making semi-insulting on a nationalist basis edits)? --PaxEquilibrium 15:12, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

As I said before, I’ve got nothing against Serbs per se (for example, I’ve really got nothing against people like Ljubisav Đokić or Veran Matic), but I am strongly against the radical nationalist-mixed-with-expansionist-and-fundamentalist-religious ideology of people like Seselj, Mladic, Karadzic and the deceased Milosevic and Arkan. I am strongly against ultranationalisms of any kind that put churches of stone or “nations” above the existence of human beings.
I still believe in liberal democracy, secularism and freedom of speech.
This said, what I need to say is that though I have a POV, I don’t want to impose my POV on articles related to the complicated Yugoslav relations, mainly during the troubled XX century, here in Wikipedia; I just want to make articles more balanced, showing the sides, opinions and international positions related to a determined event and to do not muislead readers that can take these articles as reference.
I don’t think that I am not insulting anyone doing the work to make some articles don’t show just one side of a question or trying to spread some kind of “truth”; I think my work is just to make them the most informative and above all scuentific and NPOV as possible.
That’s it.--MaGioZal 03:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Ah, I understand. Perhaps I have misjudged You then. Nevertheless, I noticed that despite You tend to go along that way - you have a highly politically inflamated user page (and use double standards for same cases), so I don't really see how could you claim that which you claim in the middle. Also, I would advice You that neutralism and objectivity lies in there. I've met crazy Radicals and nuthead Liberals (here, in Serbia) and I know that they are two extremities that are both bad. For the Liberals (and for a short time, even myself) have pushed and went so hard that they forgot their very own standards, becoming Serbophobes themselves and promoters of non-Serb nationalism. Those are the slow steps that moved the left extreme of Stalin from being a loyal obedient to a the peaceful Workers' world to Earth's greatest modern tyrant and the extreme right of Hitler being an ordinary painter across soldier fighting in a war to the most genocidal thug Gea had ever seen... beware, I advice yah. --PaxEquilibrium 17:23, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
I don’t think I’m using double standards because personally I don’t believe in the “Kosovo Precedent”.--MaGioZal 14:46, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
? Why don't You support a united, secular and democratic republic of Serbia, without divisions or segregations of any kind? --PaxEquilibrium 21:27, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
But I do support a democractic Serbia. I just don’t think that Kosovo belongs to it anymore.--MaGioZal 18:54, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nice...!

I admire your goals of seeking a united BiH. We all hope that will happen someday. The sooner the better? A Bosnia where anyone can live freely, but supports their own government! Thanks, Vseferović 04:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit]  ?

But that's not a united secular without any divisions or segregations country. :) Just democratic. :D (whereas You support that for Bosnia and Georgia). Isn't that self-contradicting a bit? Also, what's Your opinion on Cyprus? --PaxEquilibrium 19:26, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bosniakophobia

It is interesting how Serbs promoted invented word "Serbophobia" on the internet. First they introduced the word to wikipedia, and then thousands of other scrapper sites copied content from wikipedia, and now Google yields thousands of matches for this invented word. Of course, while Bosniaks wanted to do the same, and create an article Bosniakophobia, Serbs quickly jumped and voted "NO!". It is sickening to see Serbian propaganda and lies poisoning Wikipedia. Bosniak 06:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

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