Talk:Madison West High School

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Contents 1 Controversy 2 Merge with Madison West High School 3 From Talk:Madison West 4 Courses 5 Semi-protected 6 Centrx's modification

[edit] Controversy

I think if this school is deemed to be notable enough to be included, some mention should also be made of its darker incidents, mainly racial tension that erupted in a large scale fight several years ago and the middle-of-the-day rape that took place there, causing widespread outrage in the Madison area for a good deal of time after both incidents. This is noteworthy because despite the relatively poorer academic records of some of the other schools in the city, such incidents have not occured (or at least been reported on) in them. ALG 4:39, 5 March 2006

[edit] Merge with Madison West High School

• Support Shawn 23:49, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
• Support lowfatsourcreme 22:10, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] From Talk:Madison West

Moved from Talk:Madison West

Saying that West is 'generally regarded' as the best high school in Madison is of questionable NPOV status. I plan to remove it if no source can be cited for such a claim.--Hraefen 03:49, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree, seeing as how Edgewood and Memorial are also very good high schools. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.188.98.56 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Courses

I am going to move the information in the courses section into Trivia if I deem necessary and all other information merged in with introduction because it can be implied that the high school offers "courses in advanced math" like any other average US high school. I don't think Madison West's advanced courses have any notability. --20:36, 11 April 2006 (UTC)(forgot siggy)

Further, I would argue that we would call the language classes "world languages" because languages can mean German Language or English Language, which is not seen as a foreing/world language. Some distinction is needed. --Shawn 20:36, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

I keep reverting the world languages bulletpoint because it's more succinct.--Lowfatsourcreme 22:21, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't think so. I think the 2 different facts deserve two different bulletpoints because they are not dependent on one another. The fact that courses are offered in more languages than normal to a high school is seperate from the fact that 90% of students take a language. Furthermore, I think it will make this process a little easier if you use edit summary and we all note on the talk page why we are making changes. Leave a message here or on my talk page if you want to discuss further. Thanks and Happy Wiki! --Shawn 23:14, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Semi-protected

This page has been semi-protected due to vandalism. Durova^Charge! 12:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Centrx's modification

Seems excessive to me. What's up with that? I understand very little information was referenced, but "wow". stainofmind 14:26, 04 December 2006

• Centrx, you should just put this article up for deletion if you don't think the school's website is a good source. Heck, put up all school articles then because if they're all using their school website as a source.++aviper2k7++ 02:28, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I gotta say, looking at this version before Centrx stubbed it, I don't think he did anything wrong. Everything should be verifiable. With the amount of information currently in the article, it probably should be a stub. I encourage you to look at Plano Senior High School, a featured article based on a rather "normal" high school. It's extensively sourced and has a lot of good information that would be interesting to a reader who may not even be familiar with the school.

Alumni lists especially are especially problematic. The general rule of thumb is that if the person doesn't merit their own article on Wikipedia, (such as Erich Eichman, Peter Koechley, Donnel Thompson, and Ben Wikler) then they shouldn't be included. You should have a reliable source for all the rest, too. It's far too easy for someone to add a person incorrectly and have it go unnoticed. – Anþony  talk  13:17, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Several of the listed alumni mention the school in their own articles. Unless it is challenged in that article, it should not be challenged in the school's article. It's also a little unfair to claim that "...if the person doesn't merit their own article on Wikipedia, (such as Erich Eichman, Peter Koechley, Donnel Thompson, and Ben Wikler) then they shouldn't be included..." I mean, Wikipedia is still largely incomplete. There are plenty of prominent people (in the public eye) that merit an article (if written well enough) but don't yet have one. stainfomind 14:26, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

If the person's article has a source, copy it here. Maybe someone will edit that article and remove both the claim and source, and now your claim here is no longer verifiable. If the other article doesn't have a source, find one and add it to both articles. If you can't find a source, remove the claim from both articles.

There's no hard and fast rule about whether someone deserves to be included in a list of famous alumni. Certainly, you don't want every Joe Blow who graduates on your list. A good start might be WP:BIO, which has criteria for establishing a person's notability to determine if they merit an article. – Anþony  talk  14:49, 6 December 2006 (UTC)