Talk:Macedonian alphabet

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I have a question, raised by a discrepancy between the Macedonian alphabetical order reported in this article, and the canonical order used in articles about individual letters (e.g. the article for "Gje"). Specifically, in the order as shown, Gje and Kje do not appear directly following Ge (or Ge-with-upturn, if it were present in Macedonian) and Ka, as one might expect, and as is reported in the canonical order. I'm guessing this is just an idiosyncracy of the language, but perhaps an error has been made? Or perhaps the error is actually in the table used in the letter articles? It looks like the primary Cyrillic alphabet article has an order consistent with the Macedonian order listed here. Rmharman 22:15, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm advised by native Macedonian speaker Bjankuloski06en that indeed, the ordering of Gje and Kje in the Macedonian article is correct. This implies that the order shown in the sidebar tables for Cyrillic letters is incorrect. If it doesn't get taken care of before I have a chance to learn how to edit those, I'll fix it. But it might take me a while to find time to read up on how includes and sidebars work. Rmharman 17:05, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Letters Unique

The last section states that Karadžić's alphabet may have been based in some respect on distinctly Macedonian resources (eg. Krste Misirkov). Is this merely speculation on the part of an editor, or is this a documented opinion? If the latter, then it needs a source, and the language should be toned down a tad. I detected a little bit of a sneer in the way "Serbianization" was italicized. I dunno. Maybe I'm just reading more into than there is. I know South Slavic languages can be a sensitive subject. Anyway, I'm putting up the {{NPOV-section}} tag, and adding fact notes. --Yossarian 09:57, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey, the way I read it, it wasn't suggesting that Karadzic based his alphabet on Misirkovs (from a historical point of view I suspect this may be impossible, it was just trying to say that the Macedonian alphabet is not based on the Serbian alphabet, but more the writings of Misirkov. I've tightened up the wording and removed the tag, let me know what you think. - FrancisTyers · 10:22, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

That's much better, actually. Nice work. On a side note, we should probably provide online/textual sources, though, for Miroslav's book. Just to add a bit of context. Cheers --Yossarian 23:53, 9 July 2006 (UTC)