Talk:Ma Yuan

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This page was listed as a page needing wikification. I wikified it, but it has more problems than that. The original writer did not use present or past tense verbs, so I do not know whether his daughter is married or was marrried, or is empress or was empress, so I used the present tense for both of them. I've attempted Googling both of these topics to no avail, so I marked it as needing attention. It is also a Stub Article and needs expanding. --Aluion 13:12, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

I've added a little more from my background knowledge, but we really need a Chinese person who has read Sima Qian's history in the original Chinese. I will also add some about his relation to (the fictional)Romance of the Three Kingdoms in time. - Vijay Goswami

It actually wouldn't be Sima Qian's history; it would be the Book of Later Han (written during the North/South Dynasties time). I do plan to eventually revise the article when I get to his daughter (for whom I am going to create an article, perhaps in about a week and a half). --Nlu 22:53, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Question about an alternate Ma Yuan article

I was going to create Ma Yuan (painter), but to me it seems that in searches for Ma Yuan, the results are almost all about the painter rather than the general. So my question is this: Should this article be moved to Ma Yuan (general) or something similar? Rampart 16:51, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

In the German WP are two Articles about persons named Ma Yuan: Ma Yuan (the painter) and Ma Yuan (General). --Sarazyn 09:15, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ma Yuan's birth date

I am aware of no sources that reliably dates Ma's birth date. Gentlemen/ladies, are you aware of any? If so, please cite them. Thanks. --Nlu (talk) 18:56, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes they do, I recall, there is a source of paragraph given his age at 62 in year 48, under his bio I think. Eiorgiomugini 16:01, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Assuming you mean the Hou Han Shu biography of Ma Yuan (chapter 24), it does give an age (so Bo Yang, whom I was relying on, did err here) as 61 in 48 (remember that old Chinese dating has a person be "one" as soon as he or she is born). That will make him born in 14 BC. Thanks for following up. --Nlu (talk) 23:03, 21 May 2006 (UTC)