Talk:Lunar Knights
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[edit] Wikify
Wikified as part of the Wikification wikiproject! JubalHarshaw 18:53, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Fill this page with info. I'll do the text, but someone has to to the pics for me.
This article needs to have its name changed to simply "Lunar Knights", as no subtitle has been officially announced. Currently, all promotional logos released by Konami list the title as "Lunar Knights (Working Title)". Nitroid
- Done. ~ Hibana 17:26, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Would whoever it is that continues to claim that Payton is the be-all and end-all of Konami information please cease editing the page? Numerous other sources have confirmed that this is indeed a Boktai game, and Payton himself stated that the Japanese game would have all sorts of references to the original GameBoy Advance series. Furthering that train of thought is the title in Japan: Bokura no Taiyou DS: Jango and Tabasa. All legitimate, media sources point to this as being Boktai, so stop saying that it is not.
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And to you, Payton has specifically said that this is not a Boktai title, despite the use of the "Bokura no Taiyo DS" title usage in Japan. This is generally what happened with "Metal Gear Ghost Babel" being renamed to "Metal Gear Solid" in North America, except in reverse. The Boktai series has been effectively canceled in leu of Lunar Knights, which he states is a reimagining of concepts forwarded by Boktai, rather than a direct continuation.
Need confirmation? http://news.gaminghorizon.com/media2/1148050320.4198.html (Nitroid)
- Also, there is this: http://ds.ign.com/articles/708/708192p1.html Basilisk128 05:29, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- Guess nobody read that last article.
"Ryan Payton: In Japan however we are calling it Boktai DS. Boktai is rebuilt, reborn and with the Nintendo DS we're starting from scratch.
IGN: So will the Japanese version maintain a lot of the references to the games?
Ryan Payton: Yeah it probably will."
Payton contradicts himself again!--LordHuffNPuff 22:05, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
I don't neccesarilly see it as a contradiction. The concepts of Boktai are being reborn, but the story and namesake are being dropped. In that sense, it is both Boktai and not Boktai. Nitroid
- This seems like speculation from you on what he meant. If they are calling it Boktai, they are treating it as a Boktai game. - A Link to the Past (talk) 05:23, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Not really. Check out the first link I posted, he explains it pretty clearly. Nitroid
- He's calling it Boktai, and he's saying that Boktai is "rebuilt". How can we not get that it's a Boktai title from that? - A Link to the Past (talk) 06:08, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Because he also calls it a brand new series. Hense, like I said, in that sense it is Boktai and it isn't.Nitroid
- To assume what he meant is original research. We cannot contain that it is a brand new series, because he has stated that it is a new series, but that it is also Boktai reborn and they are calling it Boktai. That could just as easily mean "a new Boktai series". - A Link to the Past (talk) 17:44, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Again, it's just a matter of repeating myself, as you're both arguing and reiterating what I've already stated which is that it both is Boktai, and it isn't. Nitroid
- That is original research. You can not state for a matter of fact that one statement is true, and what is not. Boktai is more popular in Japan, so how are we not to take his statement as "we're making it new for America, but keeping it as Boktai for people who care about Boktai"? - A Link to the Past (talk) 06:42, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
How is this original research? Look at what you *just wrote* and tell me how that is any different from what he originally said -- it's the same thing as saying "It is and is not Boktai", which is what Lunar Knights is essentially becoming. No offense, but I think that you're really overcomplicating this for the sake of argument. The issue has seemingly been resolved, so why continue this standstill debate? Nitroid
[edit] Boktai "cancelled"
Nitroid, I question that you "speak regularly" with Ryan, considering you said that there's a separate Boktai title in development on DS, and then later said that the series was cancelled. - A Link to the Past (talk) 00:15, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
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I got some clarification on that recently, and it seems I misunderstood what he meant. Boktai DS was initially planned as a direct continuation of Boktai, however that idea was essentially dropped in leu of Lunar Knights. The title, however, is being kept as Bokura no Taiyou DS in order to ease Boktai fans into the new franchise. Nitroid
[edit] Continuity Reboot
Based on what everyone here has said, I'm guessing that this is a continuity reboot, which starts the story over from the beginning. Still, I'm kind of displeased that the American release will outright rename the characters. This game is Boktai in that it features the same characters and concept, however it is not part of the same series, technically making it a new game. So yes, this game both is Boktai and is not Boktai.
[edit] Interview
There is an interview with the producer at http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3153974 which may be useful for the article. -- ReyBrujo 19:34, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] So there's one thing I'm not quite understanding here...
Why does Japan get the original Django and Sabata we know and love, while English-speaking gamers only recieve these... pitiful... weird-looking... different... not-Django-and-Sabata characters? Erm... yeah. --Nintendorulez talk 19:57, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
In Japan, the boys are named Django and Sabata (they could be descendants, reincarnations, etc...); while in the USA (and everywhere else?) they'll be named Aaron and Lucian. That doesn't mean that the Japanese version has the same Django sprites and/or art (especially if you look at the gameplay videos released); it just means that in Japan they're using the same names as a way to tie in with the GBA series.
Lucian looks nearly nothing like Sabata - apart from the hair and his colour scheme. Aaron looks little like Django, apart from the hair and outfit. "Toasty" is not technically Otenko, though they are both probably Messenger(s) of the Sun in the same vein.
My point is, Japan gets the same characters we get, with names (and possibly some plot) that tie(s) in with the GBA series.--Kenjoki 05:43, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Okay. This game is completely unrelated to the original boktai series. The only reason names are being kept in Japan is due to Boktai's success there. It's solely for marketing reasons. For all purposes, these characters have nothing to do with the universe of the Boktai games whatsoever. Think of boktai as an inspiration for LK. The only character that looks exactly the same, after all, is Otenko/Toasty. Who isn't the same Otenko as in Boktai, because that's a different, unrelated series. Sound good? That's how Konami put it. More info: http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3153974 --LordHuffNPuff 19:55, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
