User talk:Lovelight

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[edit] Re: Starforce

Hi, Lovelight. Don't worry that your first steps into the world of Wikipedia have been difficult. From what I have seen from your contributions so far it is clear that you are a passionate, thoughtful person who is willing to put some effort into trying to create something good. In other words, you would be a great Wikipedian :P Anyway, I'm a little preoccupied at the moment with things unrelated to WP, but you can rest assured that I will be keeping a close eye on the StarForce article to ensure that there is no bias or unverified information that survives or creeps in the article. I hope you'll stick around and contribute more to our encyclopedia. There are over a million subjects to write about, so if you find that you run into conflicts there are surely other articles where your contributions will be more welcome. I noticed you said you were writing an article for a gaming magazine. In case you're interested, me and a few other Wikipedians run the Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer and video games, where we would certainly appreciate your input in the discussion. Take care and hope to see you around! Cheers, jacoplane 23:08, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] LInkspam

Please stop adding linkspam to article talkpages as you have been doing repeatedly to [1] the September 11, 2001 attacks article. It does nothing to help us make the article better. Thanks.--MONGO 07:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Looks like you're here to disrupt...start being productive and stop insulting others.[2]--MONGO 12:34, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

It's the other way around Mongo, and you know it… --Lovelight

[edit] Your Myspace?

Hi Lovelight, is that your myspace URL on the 'user page' ?

Nope, not my doing… That movie is particularly good tool, that's all. Have you seen this trailer? Lovelight 14:51, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

I read through your completely valid and important points at the 9/11 discussion page. I gotta say that Mongo is a fucking imbecile by the sounds of his text entries.. and to think people like him are admins here? *shudders* I quit contributing to wiki months ago after doing it for around 1 year. The arseholes who admin and pseudo-admin this page site are fucking legion and insufferable imo, cocksuckers like that brainwashed missing link get my fucking goat no end.

Oh, but you shouldn’t have leaved, it is sad whenever quorum leaves forum:)… Stick around, arguments are arguments, logic is logical, Mongo and his drugz will bow to the facts… Lovelight 14:51, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

These links may be old to you, but if not def visit plz.. very esp this 1st one which has a 1 hour documentary / lecture which led me to believe that 9/11 was an inside job. The ppl putting forward the evidence and theories are professors, civil engineers and M.I.T. physics graduates with decades of theoretical and practical experience in the laws of thermodynamics and physics and also in reality. (<--- you listening Mongo?)

http://911revisited.com <---- 1 hour film here, essential viewing bro!

http://www.reopen911.org/

best wishes bro, The Late Great Bill Hicks

Thanks brother…this sort of data will be referenced sooner then later… Lovelight 14:51, 16 September 2006 (UTC)


This documentary is also essential viewing Lovelight.

"9/11 Mysteries" (watch this and learn about controlled demolitions) http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-6708190071483512003&hl=en

TLGBH

Hi L.L., I often see on these talk pages people saying things along the line of "its all conspiricy crackpots who question the official story.. where are cerdible doubters?" This first link lists a large number of credible patriots who openly question 9/11. (the second link is where I obtained the first link from) And feel free to delete anything I have posted on your page here, if it's getting to cluttered or if you are getting any hassle for any of my comments.

http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/

http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/southpark_911_episode_on_conspiracy.htm

regards, TLGBH

I thought these links may interest you LoveLight ;

US Army Announces Readiness for Total Military Takeover of America http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/us_army_announces_readiness_takeover_usa.htm


Keith Olbermann criticizes Bush http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-7150467909517615896&q=keith+olbermann


Doomsday For The Internet As We Know It? http://www.infowars.com/articles/science/internet_doomsday_for_internet.htm


Also I was wondering why the information from the http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/ link isn't mentioned or listed on the 9/11 page.. the link has quotes from members of the Republican party, US Army Generals, Ex CIA employees and many others who all openly, publically and vehemently disagree with the official 9/11 story. If their opinions on the tragedy aren't relevant to the 9/11 page then I dont know what is.

[edit] fbi

Hi, I've continued the discussion on: Talk:September_11,_2001_attacks/FBI_poster_controversy#Continued_discussion_from_talk_page. Would you please take a look? — Xiutwel (talk) 10:35, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your link title

Please see this note. I'm taking a wikibreak, so any follow-up will be by another admin. Please don't reply on my talk page. The article talk page is the suitable place for any response. You might like to read through the recent talk on WP:BLP. Tyrenius 03:57, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Please do not add potentially defamatory material, even to talk pages. Tom Harrison Talk 15:44, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. [3] --Guinnog 18:47, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FYI

have you seen this discussion at the village pump?

[edit] RFM

A request for mediation has been filed with the Mediation Committee that lists you as a party. The Mediation Committee requires that all parties listed in a mediation must be notified of the mediation. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/September 11, 2001 Attacks, and indicate whether you agree or refuse to mediate. If you are unfamiliar with mediation, please refer to Wikipedia:Mediation. There are only seven days for everyone to agree, so please check as soon as possible. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/September_11%2C_2001_Attacks#Involved_parties my mistake on this. if you could inform the other involved parties (and fix mongo's) with the proper page, that would be appreciaed. I'm getting off

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Seabhcan

Hello,

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Seabhcan. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Seabhcan/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Seabhcan/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Cowman109Talk 23:19, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help us craft a real encylopedia article

HI Lovelight. I think the tactics the Feds are using are just to wear us down, frustrate us and get us to go away. It would be much more fruitful to spend some time editing the redraft article and return later when their guard may be down. And also when we've bult a strong concesnus among not Federal employees (I'm tole the wiki word for them is clowns) for the new version. --Cplot 23:52, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] an article of possible interest to you

The Saddam_Hussein_and_al-Qaeda_timeline article is in serious need of attention. It presents numerous Conspiracy Theories regarding alleged ties between Saddam/Iraq and al Qaeda as fact, when these theories have been refuted, rejected, denied and discounted by the U.S. Government, various U.S. Governmental hearings and commissions, and almost all the respected experts, many of whom are retired U.S. Intelligence. This is a clear case of misusing Wiki to advance fallacious and discredited Conspiracy Theories. Perhaps you could help there. Thanks in advance. - F.A.A.F.A. 00:09, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I can only imagine how are things there… in the trenches;)… I'll try to peek soon… brrr… Lovelight 16:20, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Could you give me your sources?

This involves the 9/11 article. I'd like some links to your sources for Jones, et al. so I can try to end the debate and solve the POV problems. You can either put them on September 11, 2001 attacks, under the section called WOT or on my talk page.--I need a vacation 18:58, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Certainly, but let us both relax for this weekend… I'm in heavy multitasking as it is, and I need a vacation as well… have a good one, weekend, that is…;) Lovelight 15:27, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Seabhcan/Evidence

I took a risky move and removed some of your comments from this page. I really didn't understand your argument, and I didn't understand why you included this letter, which made no sense. If this is a problem, I will immediatly restore those comments. The best evidence you have is the quotes from MONGO. Please let me know what you want me to do. i have not worked with you before, but I have seen your edits agains and again on the Sept 11 attack page, so I hope you are not offended. Travb (talk) 20:07, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I restored those edits: [4] when Nuclear messsaged me. I would suggest rewritting your section. Travb (talk) 20:11, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Of course it’s a problem. From my perspective that letter is quite an embarrassment (for me before anyone;), and it wasn’t easy to stick it there. However, I believe that it serves its purpose and that reasoning and intentions are made clear… If there is more need of clarification I'll add some of the answers I've got to that particular unblock request… they are even more embarrassing, but this time for whole wiki… I'd say that there is no need to go there, and I'd say that there was no need for MONGO to go there too… Apart from that, its pleasure to meet you. Lovelight 15:52, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Hey Love, as you wish, if you have any suggestions about my section, let me know. Is English a second language for you? Travb (talk) 20:40, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Yes, wish I could share more with community, have some time to design upright user page… seemingly there are always some more concerning (or preposterous?;) – issues. Lovelight 11:47, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
& thx, your attention as well as intention are more than appreciated… Lovelight 12:54, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Incorrect use of a POV-tag.

In this edit you added a POV-tag to a talk article. POV-tags are for main articles only. So now you know, and won't do it again, right? --Regebro 15:25, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Undoubtedly, and you won't misinterpret my intentions or disrupt the flow of discussions, it's not decent thing to do… so now that you know it you wont repeat it, right? Lovelight 15:30, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Don't be silly. I can not promise to not make mistakes. I never misinterpret something on purpose, which I'm sure you know. And I have not disrupted the flow of the discussions in any way. You however, by copying part of discussions for absolutely no reason, so that they appear twice, and by still refusing to indent properly, are constantly disrupting the discussions. However, I have no hope of you stopping that, so I won't ask you to. --Regebro 16:03, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Just for record…
Addition is quite clear I believe, imo the section is more then appropriate, if you would prefer a different one say so but I believe it should be brief and to the point. Have my apologies for such inappropriate reply, but your accusations of me reposting and disturbing the flow of thought in the moment in which I tried to summarize it and restore it did throw me of the track there… there is also this issue of repeating, since you keep repeating how I should state the case while case was constantly swimming in this little flow of thought we have here;). We had a few disagreements yesterday… let's leave them there? Lovelight 12:33, 1 December 2006 (UTC)Lovelight 16:26, 1 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Whitehouse using Wikipedia for Propoganda

Check the Village Pump [history for just one example. I gotta go. --GenericClownTaunt 19:02, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lies, bloody lies and conspiracy theories

I would appreciate it if you deleted Cplots sockpuppets lies about me (and I assume everybody else mentioned) from your talk-page. I don't particularily approve of poeple lying about my person, as you maybe can understand. --Regebro 00:32, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

To be honest I don’t know why this sort of information tends to land on my talk page, I'm surely not asking for it… I would probably remove this myself if there weren't so much tempering with that edit… About that other point, I'm still expecting your apology because of lies you're deliberately spreading about me… as for your reputation, well, that certainly isn’t my problem… Lovelight 01:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
It lands there because Cplot puts it there through his various sock-puppets. I sympathize with your situation, but I would still like you to remove it. --Regebro 11:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

come to think of it… …if nothing else, editors/administrators mentioned above are a part of single interest group… but I'd guess that more experienced wikipedians know about that far more then I do… I'm trying to stay focused, but there are these "loony reports" of snakes on planes and socket puppies and clowns and MONGO's… it would all be rather amusing and funny, if it weren’t so sad… (& true).Lovelight 01:29, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Well since I was forced to look at this after all, I see there is long history of wikinonsense… good going there…

http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2005-July/025583.html
http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2005-June/024230.html
http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2005-July/025921.html
http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2006-October/054949.html
Or go here: http://spectrum-fairness.blog.co.uk/ (tag "Wikipedia")…
I have no idea what you are talking about or why this in any way wuold have anything to do with the issue. Please remove the lies about me from your talk page. I know nothing about the other editors, but I am not a party of any interest group whatsoever. Please remove the lies about me from the talk page. This is the last request I will do. --Regebro 11:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Will you remove those lies you spitted on me at the talk page, and restore my valid edit requests? Think about it… Lovelight 11:35, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I have not spitted anything at you, much less lies. --Regebro 14:18, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your insults.

Please stop. If you continue to make personal attacks on other people, you will be blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Thank you. References: [5], [6] --Regebro 11:22, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Simple sorry will do… Lovelight 11:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
The only thing that will do is that you stop. I don't care if you say your sorry or not, just don't do it again, OK? --Regebro 11:48, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm not doing a thing; you brought that on yourself... once again, your reputation is not my concern… Lovelight 12:04, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I take this as a refusal to stop. I'm sorry to hear that. --Regebro 14:15, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Muchacho, one more time, I'm not doing anything to you, while you go as far as calling me "Deaf dumb and blind basketcase"… and/or conspiracy theorist… and/or POV pusher… I've never proposed single change that could (not even remotely) be related to such term… isn't there some sort of protection from this sort of abuse? Lovelight 14:43, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
The only thing I have done of the above is called you a conspiracy pusher, as you are one of the people who claim the article is POV for not including more conspiracy stuff. I already said that I was sorry if you didn't like that wording. I have never called you any of the other stuff you accuse me of calling you. There, I now hope this misunderstanding is cleared up. --Regebro 15:30, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

note

If outside parties are interested in...what was that all about… they may check appropriate history [7] [8] [9] [10] [11], keep in mind that I'll leave Reg to have a final word here & there… Lovelight 16:02, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Personal attacks

Please stop these personal attacks. They have become disruptive, and if you continue it will be necessary to temporarily block you from editing. If you have a problem with another user, take it to dispute resolution. Tom Harrison Talk 15:04, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

You know, you could have just ask me to cool of… this is second time you folks are treating with the block, while I clearly haven't done anything to deserve one, if I cannot answer to silly allegations on my talk page… just look at this mess... Lovelight 15:25, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I have temporarily blocked you for disruptive personal attacks. Please do not promote or post links to that material again. Tom Harrison Talk 17:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

You have my slight bow and applause… Lovelight 18:17, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Escapade & ArbCom

I am not sure what you mean by "I'm honestly surprised by your escapade."? I thought we were on good terms and the black helicopters comment was not directed at you since you were not the one who posted the message I removed. I am not sure why you are taking such offense to anything. What is exactly wrong, or what did I do to offend you? My apologies whatever it may have been, unless its that I removed the sockpuppets attacks against me and their accusations. --NuclearZer0 21:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Of course that we are on good terms… it occurred to me that allegations about committee might be unfounded and that I should perhaps consider the whole process far more seriously, that’s all. As for your point, you've just noticed yourself how your comment might be misinterpreted… you know how I prefer when things are clear, and if that case has any due weight, I would try to avoid any misleading sentences. Of course that doesn’t mean that I think you used such flow deliberately… Apart from that, you did get me a block there, even if that wasn’t your intention;)… Well, I honestly hold no grudge with you, if you reconsider you're wording, I'll reconsider my. Lovelight 22:15, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I was being playfully sarcastic, as I thought you were when you posted the "Thank you" message on my talk page. My apologies if it was taken out of context, I didnt intend for you to get blocked, while I was annoyed because I didn't know what your issue was with me, I didnt think it was have deserved a block in retrospect. --NuclearZer0 22:59, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for Mediation

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[edit] That link

You may want to leave PTR's version up. It pretty detailed and is a good middle ground, it keeps the site and the timeline and restricts it to that day to satisfy the complaints about it. If people want to surf around the rest of the stie they can do so on their own. Just some advice. --NuclearZer0 15:19, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

You would go against your own arguments? Why? We already have "minute by minute timeline"… Lovelight 15:28, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: ArbCom Questions for Paul August

Hi Lovelight. I've answered your questions. Thanks for asking. Paul August ☎ 22:33, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

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