Talk:Louis, dauphin de France

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"there was great rejoicing and celebrations complete with fireworks (memorialized in engravings) in all the major cities of France, and indeed in most European courts. " I added the bit about engravings from personal experience, having looked through the folio album. But the idea that there was "great rejoicing and celebrations in most European courts" is claptrap: London? Vienna? Potsdam? The accredited French ambassador would have given a fête of course. I never "delete factual material". But I do know what's what.

The date 1745, often given for this pastel, formerly posted here without the artist's name, is insecure, as amost Maurice Quentin De la Tour's dates are. It was reverted "doubted" without a moment's thought by Hardouin, who is best left to his own gaffes apparently. No matter... --Wetman 12:42, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The link points out to 1748 for the probable date of the painting, which sounds more credible, as the dauphin would have been 19 at this time.
As for the courts of Europe, I know this fact with certainty, having long ago read records of how both the birth of the dauphin in 1729 and his wedding in 1745 gave rise to public fêtes in many courts of Europe. Remember that most German and Italian states were client states of France, and that the Bourbon ruled in Madrid. I don't know if London organized fêtes on those occasions, but Berlin and Vienna almost certainly did, as it was thought courteous to do so to honor the man (Louis XV) that was seen as the most powerful king of Europe. Remember that all these royal families interbred with each other, and it didn't matter that the countries were at war with each other from times to times, because nonetheless all these kings and princes felt like they were all part of the same European social class. Hardouin 14:46, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)