Talk:London, Midland and Scottish Railway
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Some named expresses I can think of are:
- Devonian, which ran from Bradford (I think) to Bristol (and not to Devon!)
- See this article where there is a splendid photo of a train on this service - and it was from Bradford, and it did run to Devon (seems little point in calling it the Devonian otherwise) Peter Shearan 13:46, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- Palatine mentioned under Midland Main Line
- Peaks ditto
- Thames-Clyde Express. I'm not sure if this was named in LMS days. I believe it ran down the Erewash valley rather than through Derby
- It certainly was! I have Alan Anderson's book (undated) which sets out the whole journey: St Pancras-Leicester-Sheffiel-Leeds-Settle-Carlisle-Glasgow St Enoch, 427 miles (683km in new money!)Peter Shearan 13:46, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- Pines. This ran from Bournemouth on the old LSWR lines to Bath Green Park and joined the northbound LMS from Bristol at Mangotsfield. It went on through Birmingham to Manchester.
- Master Cutler I'm not sure if this was an LMS express, but a BR one
Perhaps someone would like to carry this on
The Master Cutler ran on the Great Central Railway, which became part of the LNER, not LMS. -- Tivedshambo (talk) 17:13, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- The Master Cutler was a GN and GC joint Pullman that ran from Sheffield Victoria to London Kings Cross via Retford. It only moved to ex-LMS metals after the run down of services from Sheffield Victoria in the 1960s. Also, the Pines was one of those trains that used to split repeatedly - during winter months it had portions that went to Leeds, Bradford (split at Birmingham and again at Sheffield) and Manchester, Liverpool (split at Crewe). During the summer they ran as completely separate trains due to the extra demand with the Pines being the Manchester train. BaseTurnComplete 10:16, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
There is the present day Master Cutler also the Robin Hood and the Midland Express run by Midland Mainline Chevin 09:47, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
I think the Devonian ran to Paignton in the Summer. Certainly there were many "Summer Specials".
The Pines had a long and varied history. In 1958-9 I used to catch it at Bath Green Park and change to the Devonian at Gloucester for Derby. The only things that stayed the same were that it started in Bournemouth and ended at Manchester. There is a book about it Austin, S., (1998) Portrait of the Pines Express, Ian Allan Publishing.Chevin 17:27, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
There was also the Waverley which I believe ran from London via Corby and Manton Junction to Nottingham and Edinburgh. Chevin 09:47, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
There was a Thames-Forth express too, like the Clyde but to Edinburgh. I have a feeling that this went via Nottingham too.BaseTurnComplete 16:12, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Named trains (not just expresses?)
If you look at this article you will find a huge quantity of them. They cover all the railways of course, but this is better than trying to use one's memory ... Peter Shearan 13:46, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
