Template talk:Logo

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Contents 1 Proposal 2 New Logo2 Template 3 Deletion 4 Logos of fictional organisations 5 Category sorting 6 Possibly better category sorting 7 Wording change requested 8 Fair use rationale 9 Interwiki request 10 New logo for this template 11 Interwiki link to the Vietnamese Wikipedia 12 Fair use for trademark? 13 Help:Image page

[edit] Proposal

Change this:

...corporation, sports team, or organization in question...

Into:

...corporation, sports team, product, or, item in question

A lot of things can have logos, TV stations, corporations, organizations products etc etc. —This user has left wikipedia 17:06 2006-02-02

[edit] New Logo2 Template

I've created the Logo2 template which takes a parameter for what Category page to put the logo on. --JeffW 22:25, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion

this template is being considered for deletion, as it has a glitch which logo2 corrects.--Esprit15d 19:25, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

In the end, it was kept. SeventyThree^(Talk) 23:48, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Logos of fictional organisations

(If this is the incorrect place to be asking this, please redirect me elsewhere!) Should {{logo}} be used for logos of fictional organisations? If particular here, I'm thinking about the armies in the fictional Warhammer 40,000 universe, which have logos created by Games Workshop for them? Would this count as fair use, or do we need a different justification for this? Cheers --Pak21 09:20, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category sorting

I'd like a change to be made to the code which categorises logos, so that they can be sorted by something other than filename. From

[[Category:{{{1|Logos}}}|<noinclude> </noinclude>{{PAGENAME}}]]

To

[[Category:{{{1|Logos}}}|<noinclude> </noinclude>{{{2|{{PAGENAME}}}}}]]

A demonstration is at Category:Sandbox, and my subpages User:SeventyThree/Sandbox, User:SeventyThree/Sandbox 2, User:SeventyThree/Sandbox 3. Thanks, SeventyThree^(Talk) 19:57, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind, I've found another way to do it, using Template:!. SeventyThree^(Talk) 05:47, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Possibly better category sorting

Under the current sorting, the logo template can put an image into any category at all. I would like to recommend that the code be changed to the following: [[Category:{{{1|}}} logos|<noinclude> </noinclude>{{PAGENAME}}]]. The code will produce the following:

• {{logo}} will result in Category:Logos.
• {{logo|Computer and video game}} will result in Category:Computer and video game logos.
• {{logo|company}} will result in Category:Company logos.

Thus it will force the word "logo" into the resulting category, forcing it to only be sorted into a logo category. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 12:45, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

I'd rather not, on three points.

1. This would break every page which uses the piping as it is. This could be fixed by bot, but it doesn't seem worth the effort for such a small change.
2. It's a lot simpler the way it is at the moment. Putting in an almost-complete fragment like that seems unnatural to me. Particularly since the non-logo categorys have a plural, e.g. Category:Computer and video games.
3. That would break sub-category sorting using the magical {{!}}. I don't think many images use this, but any which do would have to be fixed.

(P.S. did you mean will force the word "logos" into the resulting category ? SeventyThree^(Talk) 03:00, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I know it would require a bot to fix initially. That is why I am bringing this up in the first place. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 08:30, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

To address point two, we don't say "computer and video games logos". Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 07:20, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wording change requested

At the top of the page, an editor suggested that "corporation, sports team, or organization in question" be changed to "corporation, sports team, product, or, item in question". Since there didn't seem to be any discussion on that particular point, I'm assuming that there was no oppososition either. There also seem to be well-populated categories of Category:Logos that pertain to things rather than groups of people. I second the spirit of the change, but to avoid wordiness, I suggest just simply using general terms — e.g., "organization" instead of "corporation, sports team, or other organization".

So, specifically, I propose the first clause of the first sentence should be changed from "This is a logo of a corporation, sports team, or other organization" to "This is a logo of an organization, item, or event" and that the first bullet point be changed from "to illustrate the corporation, sports team, or organization in question" to "to illustrate the organization, item, or event in question." If there is any disagreement, please feel free to discuss. Thanks. — TKD::Talk 03:39, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Seems like a good idea to me. It certainly reflects the wide range of images this template is used on. SeventyThree^(Talk) 23:49, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Edit made. Let me know on my talk page if I messed up anything :). RN 07:57, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale

I just had a conflicting opinion with User:Steve block regarding giving fair use rationales with this tag. This is due to "To the uploader: please add a detailed fair use rationale for each use, as described on Wikipedia:Image description page, as well as the source of the work and copyright information" in the tag.--Jusjih 16:42, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Interwiki request

Please add intewiki link for Serbian language Wikipedia. The link is

[[sr:Шаблон:Лого]]

Thank you. --Branislav Jovanovic 09:47, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Done -- Netsnipe ► 08:59, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but you added the wrong interwiki link; the one you added is for {{film-screenshot}}. Please, correct it to the above mentioned interwiki link. Thank you. --Branislav Jovanovic 06:44, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Whoops. Fixed. -- Netsnipe ► 07:00, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New logo for this template

- I know it doesn't look good, but it gives the generic red copyright logo a new look. Please fix it so it appears correctly, as in the Logo inside the red copyright logo. VelairWight 22:57, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Interwiki link to the Vietnamese Wikipedia

Please add an interwiki link to the Vietnamese version of this template:

[[vi:Tiêu bản:Biểu trưng]]

Thanks.

– Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 01:13, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. JesseW, the juggling janitor 08:53, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I removed the editprotected template. --HappyCamper 15:21, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use for trademark?

The term "fair use" is used in regard to copyright but is that the correct term when used in regard for trademarks? Somewhere out there are logos that are no longer under copyright protection but are registered as trademarks. There must be another term. --Gbleem 00:33, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help:Image page

Wikipedia:Image description page is a redirect to Help:Image page, should this not be modified to prevent the redirect? --Bob 22:54, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Done. AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 21:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC)