Talk:Liudmila Belavenets

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[edit] FIDE GM vs ICCF GM

Actually my understanding is that ICCF is affiliated with FIDE. Correspondence chess does have separate titles, but I don't think the article makes that very clear. I don't doubt that she has the GMC title, but the supplied link to chessgames.com shows her titles as WIM, WIMC, and IMC. The Category:Chess grandmasters cat has been used strictly for FIDE International Grandmasters plus the original 5 named by the Tsar. We have a separate cat for the FIDE Category:Chess woman grandmasters. I think separate cats for the correspondence GMs would be a good idea. (I don't think we need cats for the various titles below GM for either over the board or correspondence.) What do the chess-fan wikipedians think? 165.189.91.148 21:45, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

In my opinion, the category's name is "Chess grandmasters", not "FIDE and Tsar chess grandmasters". And there is no other category for correspondence grandmasters. Therefore I would use it for all chess grandmasters. - Regarding chessgames.com, the info there is old; world champions (and the 2nd and 3rd in the championship tournament) always get the grandmaster title. --Ioannes Pragensis 22:06, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

I think we should create a cat for correspondence GMs. My view is that standard usage of the term GM among chess players does not include holders of the FIDE Woman Grandmaster title, correspondence GMs, or GMs of chess composition. I think this has been the historical use of Category:Chess grandmasters in wikipedia. See the explanation that's been in Category:Chess players for many months. It might be reasonable to make Category:Chess grandmasters a supercat with subcats for the FIDE unrestricted and women's titles, the ICCF titles, and the composition title. 165.189.91.148 15:15, 2 May 2006 (UTC)