Talk:List of state leaders in 1816

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Do we want the head of state/non head of state distinction? I think it would be better to have all of them listed together. - SimonP 22:54, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)

I like it, personally. Keep the one list simple, and let the other list get as long as it wants to (after all, there are more incumbents that can be listed than just Heads of State and Heads of Government). Regents, though, might more properly go with the Heads of State, I'm not sure. john 23:23, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)

The main argument against is that it is useful to group all the leaders of one nation together, but both methods have their advantages. - SimonP 23:50, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)

Personally I think that this is a terrible title. Incumbent what? Yes, I can figure it out if I think about it, but an encyclopedia should be more clear than that. "Incumbent" is usually an adjective and it's awkward to me to see it as a noun. Moreover, I think the title should be prefaced by "List of..." Moncrief 01:40, Apr 24, 2004 (UTC)

I agree, I've always felt that the List of incumbents name is also a bit wonky grammatically. What alternative would you support? - SimonP 02:55, Apr 24, 2004 (UTC)

I really have no problem with "List of Heads of State in XXXX". I understand the limitations to that title, but I was intrigued by the original concept and didn't necessarily care that British prime ministers and the like would have to be omitted.

If the intent is to have a list of who actually held the reins of power in a nation in cases in which it was not the Head of State, then a title like "List of national leaders in XXXX" might suffice. That has its own mild awkwardnes (mostly around the word "nation," which a lot of these states weren't), but it beats "incumbents" by a long shot.

Please feel free to move this entire response and your question to the broader Talk: Incumbents by year page. I posted my original comment there too. (Edit: I just moved it). Moncrief 03:09, Apr 24, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Nduzwani

Can anyone place Nduzwani? Google gave me zilch, at least by that spelling. I certainlt never heard of it. -R. fiend

Apparently it's "Ndzuwani" in the Comoros. The first sultan listed should be Alawi bin Husain (1796-1816), not José Manuel Serrano (certainly a bizarre name for a sultan). john 21:12, 26 Apr 2004 (UTC)

[edit] disambiguation request: "Awa"

In the Asia section there is reference to Awa. This term has several geographical meanings, seemingly none of which would be appropriate here. Could a knowledgable person please disambiguate this term? Thank you. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:37, 26 May 2006 (UTC)