Talk:List of social fraternities and sororities
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[edit] Phi Gamma Delta
There was a discussion on the matter of Fiji's letters before on another seperate but related article. I don't recall the exact consensus. Please discuss the matter here before changing anything. --† Ðy§ep§ion † 21:20, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- Downsized the flag that was used as the Phi Gamma Delta letters at the Phi Gamma Delta web page. This is approximately the same size as the letters in the currently used font. This is in reaction to yet another removal of the greek letters, presumably by a Phi Gamma Delta brother. Given the degree to which these edits occur, this was (perhaps a vain) attempt to come up with a workable compromise. Hopefully this will be acceptable to the Phi Gamma Delta brothers as well as the community at large. Naraht 18:42, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Possible removal of trivia
I wonder if the little notes and details should be removed from the list. They're not consistently present, and may list a founding location, an "interesting fact", or some other trivia that is not related to the purpose of this page: listing the organizations by letters, name, and nickname. Most of the groups have their own article, and nearly all those that don't could; these details belong there. Is there a general feeling on this issue? --SuperNova |T|C| 08:40, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
The nicknames are useful because some people looking for a group may only know the fraternity by the nickname, especially if they are unfamiliar with Greek letters. Other trivial data could probably be cleaned up though. Moof 20:00, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Alphabetical Order
If this has been done, correct me, but I'd like to get a consensus on whether this page should be ordered by English spelling of Greek letters (Delta before Gamma, Omega well before Zeta), as it is now, or by Greek alphabetical order, such that "Omega *" would come last. A recent editor added Omega Psi Phi at the end and I (evidently from an anon IP by mistake) moved it to the middle, but it struck me that a significant portion of readers might expect to find Omegas at the end (and Zetas near the beginning, etc.). Thoughts? --SuperNova |T|C| 19:29, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Beta Tau
Is beta tau a local or national frat? It seems local to me. In that stream, what is the "national" fraternity qualifier? --Samwisep86 06:24, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Depends on who you ask. Most fraternity histories that I've seen tend to see the second chapter as making them a national (i.e., a local has ONE and only one chapter; more than that and it's not a local -- ergo, must be a national). You could also argue that a national means being a member of NIC (or other appropriate national board - NPC, NPHC, whatever)... but there are some indisputable national fraternities that aren't (I think Kappa Sigma dropped NIC awhile back). Giving the benefit of the doubt to the organization, the litmus test for me would be that a second chapter means it can call itself a national, and that designation can go in WP. (Of course, I say that with the hunch that someone will no doubt take issue with the classification and possibly end up in a revert war -- but let's think positive!) So that's my position on the definition.
- However! If it's this Beta Tau we're speaking of, it sounds local in every sense. I'll go ahead and move it to locals until a) we reach a consensus definition of a "national" and b) we find out that BT meets it.) --SuperNova |T|C| 07:05, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Cultural
I began sorting Cultural-interest fraternities and sororities to the other list, but I decided to go for a consensus. Personally, I don't think it's necessary to duplicate cultural-interest fraternities and sororities if there's a separate article devoted to them, just like we don't duplicate professional ones although they likely have a social aspect as well. -mercuryboardtalk ♠ 21:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Size/popularity
The national chapters/headquarters of many fraternities and sororities are fond of letting members know their rank in terms of size among all national groups. For instance, Kappa Sigma has indicated that it is now the second largest fraternity in North America in terms of number of initiates. Does anyone know where these stats come from? QuinnHK 23:13, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
- I've been looking in vain for these numbers for awhile. It's hard to find stats that don't come from the organizations themselves. Here's one listing that claims to be from a slightly-dated Beta Theta Pi pledge manual. I'd love to see a more up-to-date listing though. 00:26, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Here is another pretty comprehensive list. --SuperNova |T|C| 14:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Locals
Not all locals are at one campus only. Chi Delta is a local sorority at California State University Sacramento, and Sonoma State University. There are Locals at other school that have more than one chapter.
