Talk:List of religious leaders in 1220

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This "list" of one entry is not likely to grow, and IMHO should be merged with all its sibling articles (1, 2) into some kind of master list. ----ssd 06:26, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

  • Well, eventually I think we'd like to have a list for all the years, much like we're working on with State leaders by year. But like those lists it makes sense to start with more recent years and get some somewhat complete lists done. Why someone just picked 1220 I don't know, but it could grow, and I sort of hope it does. I'd say keep, or maybe merge as a subsection of a List of state leaders in 1220 page when there is one. Could be a while though.-R. fiend 07:18, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
    • OK, there is a List of state leaders in 1220 page already. Didn't realize that. I guess that also explains why there's a religious leaders page for the same random year. If it gets merged I think it should be discussed on the Talk:State leaders by year page, not here. I'd like to see all these pages get expanded and completed, so I think deleting is not the way to go.-R. fiend 07:26, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  • Strong keep. It is likely to grow, as I somehow doubt there was only one religious leader in 1220, and more importantly, it's part of a wider set. If I have to go through and find out who led each individual church in 1220 now, I'll do it, but I'd prefer that it wait until the people working on the religious leader lists get to it. A master list on such a thing would be completely unworkable. Ambi 13:18, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. - SimonP 15:22, Aug 9, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. I'm guessing the year was chosen because a popular roleplaying game Ars Magica is set to the year 1220 and this page would be useful for the players of that game. The author of the page is probably a player him/herself. --Farside 17:48, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  • I added the Patriarch of Constantinople, but the list of Coptic Popes suggests there wasn't anyone in that position in 1220. I'm not sure we can specify too many 'leaders' exactly - how many religions have a specific 'leader'? Average Earthman 17:58, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  • I just found a whole crapload more Christian ones, linked from Lists of office-holders and List of Bishops and Archbishops. Adam Bishop 23:15, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
    • Ok, I vote to keep. What I'd like to see more than deletion, though, is some effort at linking this page to better resources, as mentioned above. Specifically, could someone add relevant links to the categories and/or parent categories for this page, so that people that do find this page can find research resources and/or the project page managing these pages? --ssd 06:01, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  • Much better now. Keep - TB 09:26, Aug 10, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. I hope this turns into a useful source of information; I was envisaging doing something like this myself for c. 1500 - 1530 so I can get a handle on various religious / political intrigues of the time. Sjc 05:31, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
    • Would it be more useful to have these organized by decade? Most of the info will simply be duplicated if we have one for every year (and there would be at least 2500 of these articles if we went by year). Adam Bishop 06:24, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
      • It'd make things more complicated, and IMO, make these less useful. In future, I'll hopefully be able to pick any year of the last thousand, put it in, and get a list of the state leaders, religious leaders, etc. In that form, it's very useful, and interlinks nicely with the year articles. I'd rather not mess with it. Ambi 06:43, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

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