Talk:List of planned cities

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Isn't it The Woodlands, Texas? -- Zoe

There is also Audubon New Community north of Buffalo, New York, developed by the New York State Urban Development Corporation in the 1970s in conjunction with the construction of the University of Buffalo North Campus. Not private, not HUD.

1 Criteria for inclusion
2 Hong Kong
3 Tapiola
4 Planned cities in Hungary
5 Runcorn

[edit] Criteria for inclusion

The list seems too broad in some places. By including places like Tokyo and Miletus, it seems to include "any city whose form has been affected by planning". This is too inclusive. I suggest:

Any city whose overall form (as opposed to individual neighborhoods or expansions) has been determined in large part in advance on a drawing board, or which was planned to a degree which is unusual for its time and place.

--erauch 15:53, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I have added the above definition to the page in the interest of guiding future additions, though quite a few of the current entries do not meet it. --erauch 15:53, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

It is all a bit arbitrary at some level, however Miletus should be included (early example of intentional layout of grid street pattern and location of land uses), see Hippodamus.

dml 16:15, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

What are the exact criteria for this page? Cause for an example, Alkmaar in The Netherlands is a city that was never planned. Some suburbs were (mostly in the 70's and the 80's), but the city as a whole is most certainly not planned. And the Dutch marine city of Den Helder isn't in this list. That city was founded by Napoleon, who wanted to create a settlement there, cause of its strategic location. Other 'new build cities' or 'planned cities' in The Netherlands are almost all the places in the province of Flevoland, for that province is a new build/ planned province. The only exception is Urk, for that place was located on an island, an island later linked with the new build province. Rob Bruin, 16:00, 27 november 2006

[edit] Hong Kong

(moved from main article)

when a concensus on listing and naming has been reached at Wikipedia:Naming conventions#Chinese and Wikipedia:Naming conventions#Hong Kong and Macao, Hong Kong shall have a separate listing, and China, PR be renamed as China (mainland) or Mainland China.

As far as I remember quite clearly, there has been NO concensus yet, and in fact, it is under serious debate right now. So as long as you continue to wreak your self-defined havok all over, we are going to revert it if it is deemed erroneous. I dont appreciate this sudden assumption that there is concensus too, btw.--Huaiwei 21:37, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

"(at the time) when" means a concensus haven't been made, and would be made some tim ein the future. That's a conditional sentence. Sorry for making you misunderstood. -- 21:47, December 8, 2004, UTC

[edit] Tapiola

Tapiola is not a city. It's a residential and commercial area within the city of Espoo. Should it still be included? — JIP | Talk 07:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Planned cities in Hungary

I disagree with most of these cities being listed here. Eger, for example, is a typical old settlement formed around a medieval castle, with a historical downtown and all. I'd say the same about Sopron. Kazincbarcika, Salgótarján and Tatabánya were created by the unification of several small towns in places where the Socialist government needed new industrial cities; the population of these cities grew fast, because of the job opportunities that were provided there, but I don't think it means that the cities themselves were planned, they were just artificially turned into cities from small towns.

Of all these cities only Tiszaújváros and Dunaújváros (and maybe Oroszlány, at least acc. their website – I'm not familiar with this town) could be classified as planned cities, both were planned and built within a few years. The rest are definitely not planned. It's quite likely that each of them was completely destroyed and built again several times during their history, but actually it's true to almost all the Hungarian cities, towns and villages, still not all of them are included here.

See the articles of the cities for more details. – Alensha 18:06, 23 August 2005 (UTC)