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The List of photographers is a reference tool providing greater access to information on renowned and significant photographers, past and present, but it is not intended as a page to promote a given photographer (of whatever stature).

Notable photographers who do not yet have Wikipedia articles should be added to the following sub-list. Photographers are listed alphabetically by family name. Any notes that could help to demonstrate the significance of a sub-listed photographer should be added next to the photographer's name, along with links, as appropriate. For a better understanding of the purpose and origins of the sub-list of photographers, please see the discussions below.

Here are some Internet resources to help in determining whether a given photographer is notable or not. These sites also provide the most accepted forms (in English) of many photographers' names and often include brief biographical information as well.

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[edit] Sub-list of photographers

[edit] A

  • Alfred Shea Addis 19th-century itinerant photographer, early work portraits of Levenworth, Kansas, c. 1857; Mexican wilderness, c. 1862; American Indians and villages, c. 1870 - 1886. Became Marshall of Arizona Territory, 1884, murdered in Chihuahua, Mexico, September 10, 1886. Daughter was Yda Addis1857 - 1902? 19th-century writer.
  • A1-53167 Formerly known as Anibal Asdrubal Lopez Juarez. Exhibited at the Venice Biennale. Yes. Pinkville
  • Mark Abrahamson Notable landscape photographer who does aerial work, see samples here. SteveHopson
  • Juan Agusti (port, fash, art) No information available. SteveHopson
  • Miles Aldridge Include -- Fashion photographer, has worked for Vogue, NY Times Magazine and others, website is located here. SteveHopson
  • Jen Alexander Unique digital photographer specializing in familes from weddings to maternity to seniors. Her pictures tell a story about the lives of the people she photographs. Check website.
  • Habibollah Allahdad (art, doc) Not sure what to make of this, but dubious for inclusion, I think. Pinkville Right now, dubious for inclusion anywhere in WP, I think. Google has almost nothing about him. (Photographically, he's here.) Keep an eye on the article's talk page. Hoary This article is now undergoing AfD. Pinkville AfD resulted in the offer to userfy, and deletion. Hoary 23:47, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Jackie Alpers Probable Inclusion -- art/commercial photographer with work in several major stock agencies and a good client list. Check website. SteveHopson
  • Bob Anderson (photographer)
  • Luis Angel Limited information, is he a painter? SteveHopson
  • Thomas Annan Definitely. Important chronicler of 19th c. underclass Britain. Pinkville
  • Ragnar Axelsson Probable Inclusion -- Icelandic nature/environment photographer with several books and museum shows. Check website. SteveHopson Very definite inclusion. Hoary 02:04, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] B

  • Amos Badertscher Google suggests that he's a forthrightly gay photographer. As I'm at work now, I'm not going to investigate. Anyway there's something to him. Hoary
  • Morley Baer Obviously noteworthy; see this for example Hoary
  • JM Balaes: I think that he is this guy. He seems a pleasant fellow, but unremarkable. Hoary
  • Micha Bar-Am Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Bruno Barbey Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • George N. Barnard At the moment, Barnard only has a section in the article on American Civil War photographers. He deserves his own page. Pinkville
  • Gabriele Basilico Very famous architect/photographer; there's even a book in the Phaidon "55" series about him. Hoary Correct. Has also made significant contributions to socio-political landscape photo, as in his shots of Lebanon.
  • David Bates: Houston-based wedding photographer. I think not. Hoary
  • Carlo Bavagnoli A very quick look showed nothing of interest to me, but he's certainly not your run of the mill photographer Hoary
  • Sean David Baylis: Hong Kong-based commercial photographer; nothing special, I think. Hoary
  • Jonas Bendiksen Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Ian Berry Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Ilse Bing Oh yeah. amazing photographic pioneer. Pinkville
  • Jon Birdseye: Google suggests that he's a young photographer cum conceptual artist or something. Unremarkable, I think. Hoary
  • Rhona Bitner Bits and pieces all over the place. (Can you read all of this and stay awake?) Has she actually had a solo exhibition or similar? Hoary
  • Dave Black (spt) A sports photographer. Here's his site; I'm utterly unqualified to judge. Hoary
  • Gil Blank An artist, presumably young, with An Idea. I have a gut feeling, but can't honestly say that I can judge honestly. Hoary Was in a MoMA survey (spring 2005), has had numerous legitimate gallery/institutional shows, and served as founding editor for an independent photo magazine (Influence, http://www.influencemag.com). Reviewed by The New Yorker here: http://www.newyorker.com/goingson/art/articles/051017goar_GOAT_art
  • Daniel Blaufuks He's had a solo exhibition in a prestigious place in Lisbon Hoary
  • Guido Boggiani Yes, definitely. Italian photographer who traveled in the Amazon area in the 19th century (and was killed for his pains); a large book of his work was published in the Czech Republic. Hoary
  • Manfred Buchheit Exhibited in museums; see this for example. Hoary
  • Richard S. Buswell OK I suppose. Hoary
  • Harry Bowers [1] Fine art photographer, Creation of the first large format color digital printing system 1986.

[edit] C

  • Geneviève Cadieux Yes. Pinkville
  • John Paul Caponigro (presumably the same person as: Paul Caponigro(art)? No, John Paul is Paul's son. He does digital, art photography and is worthy of inclusion. SteveHopson
  • Roy Caratozzolo You can start here (with a link to his own site), but I think he has a ways to go before reaching Notability. Pinkville
  • Martha Casanave Yes. Interesting practioner of pinhole camera work, amongst other things. See here. Pinkville
  • Paula Chamlee Yes. There' this and this. Pinkville
  • Taylor Chapman (art, port, doc) I don't know that this is the Taylor Chapman we're looking for. Maybe there is a notable photographer named Taylor Chapman, or maybe there will be when this 8-year old grows up... Pinkville
  • Gustavo Eugenio Chauffourier Excellent early photographer in Italy, etc. Pinkville
  • Francis Chit Important photographer in Siamese court. Pinkville
  • Mitch Cholerton is an aviation photographer, does that fact make him a notable photographer? I dunno. Pinkville
  • Peter Chou photographs food, does that fact make him a notable photographer? I dunno. Ah, but there are also these. Pinkville
  • Elsburg Clarke (doc) This says it well: Hospitals & Health Networks: Dr. Shutterbug.(Elsburgh Clarke ... Elsburgh Clarke combines photography with emergency room career ) (found on Google). Pinkville
  • Jodi Cobb Yeah. Photographer, journalist. Photographs for National Geographic. Pinkville
  • Gigi Cohen Yes. Significant photojournalistic work. Pinkville
  • Carol Condé & Karl Beveridge {http://www.workingimage.ca/ Yeah]. Pinkville
  • Robert Conner RC, who's a model train enthusiast? RC, who's a novelist with "experience in sophisticated weaponry"? RC, the actor, who's appeared in two films? The unfortunate RC who appears on mugshots.com? Maybe it's RC who photographs cars but whose website wouldn't load...? Pinkville
  • Stephanie Connolly ?
  • Linda Connor Yes, important living photographer. Many subjects and locations. Pinkville
  • Dimitrios Constantin Yes, possibly the earliest Greek photographer. Excellent albumen landscapes, etc. Pinkville
  • George S. Cook Currently has a section in the article on American Civil War photographers. Probably ought to have his own page, too. Pinkville
  • Rossella Cosentino I'd be tempted to say "Yes" based on the list of collections her work is in, but I can't find any images and I can't seem to find out whether or not she's a photographer. What medium does she work in? Pinkville
  • Eileen Cowin Of course. Pinkville
  • Tillman Crane Seems legit. Pinkville
  • Ralph Crane (doc) Photographer for Life. Mentioned here. Pinkville
  • Michael Creagh (fash) He photographs models. He has clients. You be the judge. Pinkville Thank you, yes, I'll take that model. (Though somehow I think upkeep would be expensive.) The photographer: any exhibitions or books? Hoary
  • Clayton James Cubitt (fash, doc) Tempting: One of a new breed of photographers no longer content to draw a distinction between the worlds of fashion, art, and porn... I dunno, the self-styled Kid Rock of photography? What do you think? Pinkville By removing those distinctions T&A gets classed as art. Good career move. I've nothing against it. But any exhibitions or books? Hoary

[edit] D

  • Antoine D'Agata Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Mike D'Antignac Nature & Wildlife Photographer [2] Thenk83
  • Draven Darkke: Ottawa-based commercial photographer. Google doesn't reveal anything very compelling. Hoary
  • Davis & Davis (art) Art? Kitsch? Or just saccharine gimmickry? I can't generate any enthusiasm for it, but perhaps that's just me. Hoary
  • Joe Deal Yes, seems to be for real Hoary Sure, yes. Was one of the lesser known figures of the New Topographics movement, but important nonetheless as a key 70s influence on Gursky, et al.
  • Loomis Dean Worked for Life, etc. Hoary
  • Dennon Photography i.e. Wayne Dennon. Seems unremarkable to me, but perhaps I can't judge. Hoary
  • Raymond Depardon Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Yanick Dery Looks uninteresting to me but he manages to sell it to Vogue. Hoary
  • Simon DesRochers Stock Photographer
  • Rita Dibert Current practioner of hand-coloured photography. Yes. Pinkville
  • Rineke Dijkstra Yes, important current photographer, published and exhibited. Pinkville
  • John Dominis (doc)
  • Tony Duffy (fash, port) Pictures of (conventionally attractive) athletes. I can't see that he's particularly noteworthy, but I'm not the best person to judge. Hoary
  • Thomas Dworzak Magnum photographer. Pinkville

[edit] E

  • Nikos Economopoulos Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • William Edgerton Think this is an error. Must mean Harold Edgerton, MIT professor who pioneered stop motion strobe photography: think of the image of a bullet piercing an apple (or a playing card).
  • Adam Einer
  • Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom - often carries her Leica on less formal occasions and is frequently reported to be an excellent photgrapher. The lack of exhibitions is, I believe constrained by her role as a constitutional monarch (and you can't get much more NPOV than that !) . As a highly visible and notable individual who is known to be a photographer, I suggest that Her Majesty would meet the criteria for inclusion Velela 12:58, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Ed van der Elsken Tremendously popular; I'm surprised that he doesn't already have an article. Hoary Yes, significant Dutch figure from the 60s, major influence on Nan Goldin.
  • Eovaldi Robert
  • John Erlandson
  • Dan Evans - UK based social photographer [3]also takes landscape & travel images [4]
  • Frederick Henry Evans
  • Terry Evans
  • Evergon Sure. Pinkville
  • Greer Evans portrait, headshots, weddings, travel, fine art

[edit] F

  • Timothy Fadek (doc)
  • Tim Fahlbusch Fashion and beauty photographer, living in Paris. See work on www.timfahlbusch.com [5].
  • Hans Feurer relatively minor 80s fashion hack.
  • W.P. Floyd One of the first photograpehrs in China. Essential. Pinkville
  • Thomas Florschuetz Technically and artistically excellent. Large format beautiful digital prints. Pinkville
  • Todd Flygenring Probable vanity article. No sources listed. Pinkville 03:12, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Mariano Fortuny y Madrazo Yes, early Spanish artist and photographer. Pinkville
  • Samuel Fosso
  • Glenn Francis Famous "Booth Babe" photographer
  • Stuart Franklin Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Leonard Freed Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Ernest or Endre Friedmann - see Robert Capa (war) - do we keep this entry? (Response: It's what redirects are for. Hoary) Agreed. Pinkville
  • Casey Fulton
  • Paul Fusco Magnum photographer - worthy. Pinkville

[edit] G

Hoary

  • Bruce Gilden Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Andrew Glickman
  • Burt Glinn Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Maya Goded Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • E.O. Goldbeck Panoramic photographer, but most notable for masterful large-scale formations of U.S. soldiers that depict patriotic icons or military logos.
  • Jim Goldberg Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Mando Gomez
  • William Gottlieb (jazz)
  • Herb Greene Photographer of the horticulturally fueled sixties; seems noteworthy. [[User:Hoary|Hoary]
  • Robert R Grove Birds/animal/nature/senic/action photographer http://sitekreator.com/itchecksout
  • William Gruber (inventor of View-Master)
  • Harry Gruyaert Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Vincent Gruyer
  • Che Guevara (although famous for reasons other than his photography)
  • Clara Gutsche Yes, architectural photographer. Pinkville
  • Carol Guzy

[edit] H

  • Ronald Haeberle Significant Vietnam War photographer. His images of the My Lai Massacre stand out. Pinkville
  • Charles Harbutt
  • Fraser Harding Doc, Art, Adv.
  • Erich Hartmann Magnum photographer. Not to be confused with numerous other Erich Hartmanns, including a Nazi war criminal/pilot. Pinkville
  • David Alan Harvey
  • Sam Haskins Five decades of trend-setting and award winning photography Homepage --- Very sketchy article, but after looking at his website, I think he is notable and should be included. SteveHopson
  • Naoya Hatakeyama Superb, multifaceted photographer of industrial sites, cities and lanscapes. Pinkville
  • Denis H. Hazell Yes, not well-known but interesting photographer working in Hong Kong in the 1920s and 1930s. Pinkville
  • Tim Helm Freelance Photographer based in Christchurch, Dorset UK. Nice collection on his website Tim Helm Photography of Speedway, Motocross, Formula 1, Glamour, Portraits and Landscapes.
  • Gary Heery
  • Robert Heinecken
  • Nigel Henderson
  • John K. Hillers
  • Thomas Hoepker Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Joseph Holmes (art, nature)
  • Stan Honda
  • William R. Horeis
  • Phone Myat Htoo
  • Robert Howlett
  • Cornelius Jabez Hughes
  • Tom Hunter
  • David Hurn Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Momchil Hristov (fash)
  • Drausio Haddad (art)

[edit] I

  • Stewart Isbell
  • Yoji Ishikawa Japanese photographer of Belgian and other underage cheesecake. Previously had an article, deleted via AfD. I think not. -- Hoary
  • Kenro Izu Absolutely. Beautiful explorations of archeological sites, etc. Pinkville

[edit] J

  • Alfredo Jaar Superb documentary photographer/artist. Pinkville
  • Valter Jacinto I doubt it, but here's a start . Pinkville
  • Michael Jacobs Photojournalist, perhaps notable. Some info here. SteveHopson
  • Jay Jaffee Noted street photographer, 1921-1999, produced a number of photo books and is represented in a number of museums. SteveHopson
  • Pirkle Jones (art) Northern California-based artist born in 1914. Absolutely. Important work documenting the Black Panthers, and was a major influence on Bruce Weber.
  • Joseph Jurson Produces medium and large format B&W nature prints, has strong gallery representation. SteveHopson

[edit] K

  • Richard Kalvar Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Cima Katz: A university teacher whose profile, while interesting, doesn't mention photography. I get the impression that she "digitally manipulates" (gets her computer to do things with) images, photos included. Misplaced, I think. Hoary
  • Robert Glenn Ketchum Seems OK. Hoary Mostly a kitschy nature calendar shooter, if that counts.
  • Chris Killip Yes yes yes: he has a volume of "Phaidon 55". Hoary And a longtime, seasoned instructor at Harvard.
  • Bill Knight First professional photographer for the Professional Golfers Asociation and PGA Tour. Noted golf photographer during the Nicklaus, Palmer, Trevino eras. Created the first Ryder Cup photo album for players and officials. Leading user during the 1970's and 80's of Kodachrome 35mm film; usually averaging 120-300 rolls per month. Over 100 national golf covers for Golf, Golf Digest and the Sporting News [10:08, 18 November 2006 by 70.130.140.96]
  • Alex Koloskov: Commercial photographer (in Atlanta, Jowja). I can't see what's particularly noteworthy. Hoary
  • Dan Kosmayer Moved from article on 7/12/06 - I can find no evidence of notability, either on his website or through Google searches. SteveHopson
  • Herman Krieger (doc) Oddball and interesting. Good. Hoary
  • Hiroji Kubota Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Teru Kuwayama (doc) Seems interesting. Hoary

[edit] L

  • Jean P. Labelle
  • Eugene F. Lally Jet Propulsion Laboratory/Caltech scientist who published a paper in 1961 containing the first concept of digital photography. SteveHopson 22:24, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Gabby Lang: Future potential, but doesn't meet stds for article at this time. SteveHopson Agreed. Here he/she is. Hoary
  • Sergio Larrain Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Shane Lavalette (art) website
  • Bill Lavallie News, fire, breking news in Amador County, CA. Weddings, candid portraits and candid family shots. 65.172.72.82 Any books, solo exhibitions, or other evidence of significance? Hoary 06:28, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Mark Law (port, fash)
  • Corky Lee
  • Sebastiao Carvalho Leme
  • Elizabeth Lennard Current practitioner of hand-coloured photography. Yes.Pinkville
  • Steve Lenz
  • Herman Leonard
  • Alvin Leong (wedding photographer)What started out as a passion for photography became more than a serious hobby for Alvin Leong. 9 years ago, Alvin first approached landscape and nature photography with great penchant and enthusiasm. However, when he found himself spending more weekends capturing wedding shots than lying in wait for the perfect sunlit sky, he knew he had found his calling.
  • Guy Le Querrec Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Henri Jean-Louis Le Secq
  • Erich Lessing Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • David Levinthal
  • Sharon Lockhart
  • Mike Long (photographer) Born 1971, Kent, UK. Moved to San Francisco 2005. Freelance assignment photographer specialising in sports, music, fine art and stock supply. Here's the link to his site, Spent 5 years on assignment for Bauer Publishing (UK)covering the British Touring Car championship. Published stock has appeared Worldwide, including national daily UK newspapers. Collection of fine art images on permenant display at 'Photograph' gallery, San Francisco. First book "Americana" published by Lulu Books, 2005. additional links for bio/resume/publication-type info would be helpful. SteveHopson 19:57, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Richard E. Loftis (art, sci)
  • Alejandro Lopez de Haro (art) This entry and the linked Wikipedia article need to be looked into - of dubious value, but maybe I'm missing something... Pinkville 13:26, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Alexi Lubomirski (fash)
  • John Lucassian (art, fash, port) website Although he advertisies as a portrait photographer, he seems to be most notable commercially for his art prints and again as a respected and popular boudoir photographer in the Metro Detroit area of Michgan, USA. No full article at this time, but possible. ... added by 12.15.7.70 The links -- to sites refreshingly free from Shockwave gimmickry, etc., and with explanations in refreshingly direct and unpretentious language -- show that he's a photographer who will do a good job of photographing you if you pay for his services. Fine, but is there any evidence that his photos are published or displayed? -- Hoary - He is listed at art-exchange 12.15.7.70 That site invites people to list their own stuff. So, has he had any solo exhibitions, has he published any books, or does he have a similar degree of notability? Hoary 12:21, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Leo Lutz

[edit] M

  • Robert Macpherson Excellent early photographer in Italy and elsewhere. Pinkville
  • Alex Majoli Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Rostyslav Malenko Professional photographer from Ukraine and living in Croatia. link: R. Malenko web site This entry and the linked Wikipedia article need to be looked into, with regard to quality, tone and notability. Also, the addition of (photographer) in the article title is, to say the least, absurd. Pinkville
  • Constantine Manos Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Joan Marcus Broadway photographer. SteveHopson 15:11, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Peter Marlow Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Cheryl Mauldin Mauldin Photography. www.mauldinphotography.com
  • Merav Maroody (art, adv, doc) This one came up at least twice before, I believe. Still no publications or exhibitions (that I can find) apart from her flickr account. I did find this, but it doesn't add anything substantial in the way of notability. Pinkville
  • Leo Marshall You can consult his site, but no publications or exhibitions and just a handful of magazines. Maybe someday, but not now. Pinkville Haha. The red link just went blue - with the creation of an article verbatim from the link I just posted. Vanitas!? Consider the contributions by Kingartty, the creator of this article. Pinkville
  • John Jabez Edwin Mayall
  • Dirk McDonnell (art)
  • Tony McGee (fash), one of the most famous fashion photographers in London 129.67.121.11 Addition: His website is broken; here is the Googlecache of it. This first page is flashy but the links don't work. Any independent evidence of his noteworthiness? Hoary I finally managed to get this, dubious work, but apparently worthy. Pinkville
  • Crissy McMain (art)
  • Gallen Mei 218.186.9.3 copied text here from this "about" page. There's no reason to think that the site is either public domain or GFDL and I have therefore deleted it. Meanwhile: Mei's own site shows that he is a commercial photographer. I can't see verification of this elsewhere, and there's no mention of book publication, of solo exhibitions, of museum holdings, or of anything else. I think not. -- Hoary Hoary Gosh, already blued. I've PRODded it. Hoary PPS its authors didn't like the PROD, so it's now AfD'd. -- Hoary PPS deleted. -- Hoary 11:37, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Roberto Mettifogo
  • Adolf de Meyer Absolutely. Major early 20th century innovator of studio fashion work, was under long time contract to Vogue.
  • Fred E. Miller
  • Milton M. Miller One of the earliest and best photographers in Hong Kong/China. Pinkville
  • Wayne Miller Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Lisette Model Yes, so famous even I have heard of her! Hoary Definitely. Diane Arbus routinely cited her as her main influence. Taught scores of important photogs: Arbus, Avedon, B Weber, etc.
  • Jean Mohr Published photographer and collaborator with John Berger. Yes. Pinkville
  • Sarah Moon (fash) What I've seen I've thought was horrible, but she's undoubtedly famous so she's in. Hoary Was indeed a relatively popular 70s fashion shooter, if now forgotten.
  • Craig Morey (art)
  • Don Morley (spt)
  • Charles Morris
  • Paul Morrow (art, port, fash)
  • David Muench Beautiful landscape photos for large, lavish books of landscape photos. Not quite my thing, but certainly noteworthy. Hoary
  • Kyle Mullan (art, music)
  • Tim Müller
  • John Murray Excellent early photographer in India. Pinkville

[edit] N

  • Bob Natkin American street photographer, 1919-1996, well represented in galleries, . SteveHopson
  • Charles Negre A definite inclusion, early French (?) photographer included in museum collections with several books. SteveHopson Immensely important. Not including him would be a ridiculous oversight. Huge innovator.
  • Michael "Nick" Nichols A National Geographic Wildlife Photographer, check his website. SteveHopson
  • Sheena Neil An amateur photographer from Alberta Canada. Online gallery here

[edit] O

  • Koh Okabe

[edit] P

  • James Page (photographer) Early photographer in Indonesia. Pinkville
  • Benito Panunzi
  • Marcus Palmqvist (art, fashion)
  • Richard Pare Excellent architectural photographer. Pinkville
  • Trent Parke
  • Justin Parry I can't find anything notable aboutt his person. Pinkville
  • Steve Parish, Australian landscape, nature and illustrative artist-photographer Peter Ellis
  • Paolo Pellegrin Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Philibert Perraud
  • Pierre-Louis Pierson
  • Luis Fernando Ponce
  • Pat Pope
  • Carl Robert Pope Jr.
  • Mark Power Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Pun Lun (photographic studio) One of the early Hong Kong photographic studios - and Chinese-owned. Pinkville

[edit] Q

[edit] R

  • Huggy Ragnarsson (fash)
  • José Rahola
  • Ricardo Rangel
  • William Herman Rau
  • Trish Reda (art,port)
  • Eli Reed
  • Chanel René (fash, port, plus)
  • Jorge Ribalta
  • Eugene Richards We should stop spending time discussing the merits of self-described artists "breaking down the boundaries between fashion and pornography" (etc etc etc etc, yawn) and instead make sure this guy gets the excellent article he so richly deserves. (Yes, so that's PoV. That bother you?!) Hoary
  • Miguel Rio Branco Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Jaroslav Rossler
  • Michal Rovner
  • Emil Rusfeldt Early photographer in China. Pinkville

[edit] S

  • August Sachtler Early photographer in Southeastern Asia. Pinkville
  • Lucas Samaras (art) Important artist/photographer. Pinkville
  • Lise Sarfati Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Jurgen Schadeberg Yes, published and exhibited. Pinkville Agree with inclusion, more info [here]. SteveHopson
  • Sebastian Scheiner (doc)
  • Gary Schneider
  • John Schott
  • Ferdinando Scianna Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • C. Scowen Early photographer in Sri Lanka and India. Pinkville
  • J. Pascal Sebah Early photographer in the Mediterranean region. Pinkville
  • Allan Sekula (art, doc) Key postmodernist (see his Photography Against the Grain)
  • Elfi Semotan (port, fash) Minor, mostly known for her collaborations with fashion designer Helmut Lang.
  • John Sexton
  • Celia Shapiro
  • Andrew Shinn (port, doc)
  • Katharina Sieverding Yes. German artist mulling identity.
  • Roman Signer
  • Marilyn Silverstone Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Camille-Leon-Louis Silvy
  • Laurie Simmons Yes. Key postmodernist, teacher, critic.
  • Chip Simons (art)
  • Michael A. Smith
  • Giorgio Sommer
  • Joás Souza
  • Nilton Souza (air, ind, int)
  • Albert Spaggiari (although famous for reasons other than his photography)
  • Richard Špitt (art, port, fash)
  • Ann Stautberg
  • Chris Steele-Perkins Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Amy Stein Notable? SteveHopson
  • Louis Stettner Yes, obviously: there are books of his work from major publishers (e.g. Flammarion); he's something of a poet of NYC. Hoary
  • Baron Raimund von Stillfried Key figure in early photography in Japan. Pinkville
  • Dennis Stock Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Beat Streuli Yeah. Been shown at MoMA. Here's Streuli's site. Pinkville Long time influence on many contemporary portraitists too.
  • Hidesawa Sudo (art) Japanese fine art photographer
  • Luke Swank (art, doc)
  • Darren Sylvester (art)
  • Gabor Szilasi Significant photographer in Canada. Pinkville
  • Vladi Sytnik (art, doc)

[edit] T

  • Roy A. Tangen (fash, comm, port)
  • Ken Tam (doc,art,fash,port)
  • Sam Tata Excellent (late) photographer in China and Canada. Pinkville
  • Maggi Taylor (art) Though heavily digital, she's represented by many galleries and is well known. Wife of Jerry Uelsmann.
  • Joyce Tenneson
  • George Tice
  • Nicolas Tikhomiroff Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Herbert Tobias (port, fash, art)
  • Shōmei Tōmatsu {http://www.artnet.com/library/08/0854/T085474.asp Yes]. Pinkville Of course I know who you mean 東松照明 and I second the recommendation. WP's silly rules dictate that we write his name backwards (as he does in English). That aside, he doesn't use macrons for his romanized name. He seems to be Shomei Tomatsu (which at least is consistent) or Shomei Tohmatsu (which isn't). I wouldnt be surprised to encounter Shohmei Tohmatsu, and there could be other versions too. -- Hoary
  • Stephanie Torbert
  • Larry Towell Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Anton Josef Trčka Associated with Vienna Secession. Pinkville
  • Linnaeus Tripe Superb early photographer in India. Pinkville Anyone sporting that name deserves an article. Hoary
  • Jane Tuckerman

[edit] U

  • Pedro Uhart Primarily a painter, but also a published photographer specializing in manipulated polaroids see website. SteveHopson
  • Ilkka Uimonen Magnum photographer. Pinkville

[edit] V

  • Kristina Vassilieva Linked article (which reads like an ad and which featured sales-oriented contact info) has been tagged for tone and importance. Notability must be established. Pinkville
  • Marino Parisotto Vay
  • JoAnn Verburg
  • Alan Villers (doc)
  • John Vink Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Laura Volkerding Excellent photographer of architecture and other subjects. Pinkville
  • Theo Vorster

[edit] W

  • Yoshio Watanabe Excellent (late) photographer in Japan. Pinkville
  • Alex Webb Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Todd Webb
  • Charles L. Weed Excellent photographer in Yosemite, Hawaii and Asia. Pinkville
  • Carrie Mae Weems
  • Terri Weifenbach Excellent artist/photographer. Pinkville
  • Kevin Westenberg
  • Kim Weston (Photographer) Yes, Edward's Grandson and a notable photographer. SteveHopson
  • Glen Wexler Award-winning advertising and fine art photographer.
  • Simon Wheatley Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Greg Wilker
  • Michael R. Williams
  • Tom Willing
  • Andrea Wing (port, art)
  • Dan Winters
  • Woodbury & Page (photographic studio) One of the earliest studios in Indonesia. Pinkville
  • Donovan Wylie Magnum photographer. Pinkville

[edit] Y

[edit] Z

  • Patrick Zachmann Magnum photographer. Pinkville
  • Zalmaï (doc) Exhibited by UNHCR; worthwhile. Hoary
  • Italo Zannier Photographer and historian; yes. Pinkville
  • Sam Zaydel Added by User:Szaydel, who has also created "Sam Zaydel" at various times, only to see it speedily deleted (not by me). The most recent [deleted] version of "Sam Zaydel" does not mention any publication or exhibition, let alone book or solo exhibition, and has no link to any independent verification. Therefore I think not. -- Hoary 00:00, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notability criteria

I thought it might be an idea to outline some criteria for notability. A notable photographer is one:

  • whose work has appeared in exhibitions
  • whose work has been published in books
  • whose work is included in collections
  • who was significant historically (e.g. the first to photograph X, etc.)
  • who, though a photographer, is better known for other contributions to photography (e.g. Walter Woodbury, principally known as an innovator of photographic equipment and processes)
  • who, though a photographer, is well-known for reasons unrelated to photography (e.g. Che Guevara, et al)

Please modify and add to the criteria as necessary. Pinkville 15:57, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree and would like to note that these standards essentially mirror the Wiki guidelines for notability of people — "Published authors, editors and photographers who received multiple independent reviews of or awards for their work." SteveHopson 16:51, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prince Albert

Prince Albert was a photographer ? Give some references please ?

Could really use some more help on putting biographies together here
Indeed! Will do soon... I'll export my text straight from essays that I've written, and tart them up. Yep, we'll get this section better.
Albert and Victoria certtainly collected photography and patronised photographers, and I daresay the dynamic Albert had a go at the craft himself. Any good modern biography (book) should give you the details.

[edit] Che Guevara

Che Guevara, this is not a joke : see : http://www.mkg-hamburg.de/english/ausstell/03_che/fotograf.htm

[edit] Alphabetical?

The setup of this entry is nice, except that the list is not alphabetized by the photographer's last name. Is there an easy way to format this so that the list is alphabetical and easier to navigate?

Huh??? --MarkSweep 02:18, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Hmm, you're right, it is pretty alphabetized by last name. However, there are a few instances when it is not. I guess I'll go through it and fix it. — Aurora (Say hi!)[[]] 14:06, Sep 14, 2004 (UTC)

Perhaps a brief description of the type of photography of each artist may be helpful. for example:

Berenice Abbott: Architectural photographer

or similar. The only reason I say this is because I've found it's actually more difficult than one would think to find a photographer of a specific genre.

3rd Jan 05 - I have instituted a better and more flexible way of identifying photographers by their type of work.

[edit] Scope of List

Following up from the revision of 20:32, 5 November 2005 by 195.92.168.169, I thought I'd start some discussion about broadening/clarifying the scope of this list. 195.92.168.169's 5 November change reverted this change I'd made in the heading to the list:

"This is a list of notable photographers in such traditions as art, documentary and fashion photography."

back to this:

"This is a list of notable photographers in the art, documentary and fashion traditions."

But the list is already broader than just "art, documentary and fashion", and I can't think of a rationale to limit a list of photographers to just three genres anyway. In fact, I'm not comfortable with photographers being "summed up" by such labels, since categories like "art" and "documentary" are hard to define in themselves and relative to each other. What do you think? Pinkville 15:33, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Well someone is trying to narrow the list even further as at 09:52, 18 December 2005 195.92.168.176 (removed "video commericals" cat) and "added" the word still to the heading. Many primarily still photographers went into doing commercials for television in the 1960s for sheer survival.
Should that be a separate list? or should that be an added category here? Should we not, in fact, add categories as needed. Perhaps "ed" for an "editorial photographer" etc. Doc 17:33, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
I think we should aim to be inclusive - which is why I have a problem with the heading as it stands. Rather than trying to include all possible genres in the descriptive heading I think it would be easier and more accurate just to say: "This is a list of notable photographers in such traditions as art, documentary and fashion photography." That allows for infinite expansion of the scope of the list while acknowledging its original parameters (which it never strictly adhered to anyway). Does anyone agree?/have any further thoughts? Pinkville 02:07, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
I do agree as in my comments above when my effort to expand was reverted. It was not worth giving more time to when folks revert without discussion. The list title is List of photographers and as such should in my opinion be inclusive of all notable photogrphers including if they migrated over to commercials for TV as stated above. Doc 02:45, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. To me the list is simply a handy reference for finding photographers' names. There's no reason to limit it to photographers who operated in such and such a manner, etc. It already includes people like Che Guevera (not really known for his photography!) and undoubtedly more than a few vanity links whose "worthiness" can't be easily verified. Shall I change the heading to my suggestion, then? "This is a list of notable photographers in such traditions as art, documentary and fashion photography." People can add genre abbreviations as they like (I don't find them very helpful, myself, but what the hell). Pinkville 04:54, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Photographic studio

Please don't remove entries on this list for photographers described as "photographic studios". The term refers to a corporate photographic entity - not the physical space - and so many photographs are credited to photographic studios. For example, the Pun Lun photographic studio was the creator of many images in 19th century Hong Kong. Thanks. Pinkville 14:18, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gabby Lang

Twice now an annonymous user has listed this name with a link to a commercial webpage. That is not the purpose of this list. Write an article on this photographer if your feel that they are sufficiently noteworthy and then place the webpage as an external link on the article page. The following is the entry which I rv and don't believe belongs here:

Does anyone view this differently? Doc 01:31, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree completely. Entries of this kind are not suitable for this list, in my opinion, even if honestly-intended (and not just vanity, etc.). Pinkville 19:08, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Photographers without articles

This list should be for photographers of note worthy of an article on Wikipedia by the usual standards. While I have felt in the past that there was a place to put a name here before the article to flag a known photographer that needs an article, it does seem to be getting out of hand. Perhaps we need to rethink this and delete any name that on Google and other searches does not come up with enough to create a stub.

Any other thoughts on this? Doc 02:11, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

I had started a project of checking names from this list on the Union List of Artist Names, which is one of the authoritative sources for photographers' and other artists' names (with short bios), as well as on the Library of Congress Authorities, which does the much same thing. Then I created stub articles as appropriate. Of course, I got bogged down after getting halfway through "C", but I'd welcome anyone else to join in on the project with me. As for deleting names that don't turn up any of these sources, I'd wait a while, some obscure photographers that are nevertheless worthy of an article don't show up on internet sources... Pinkville 02:29, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
We seem to be getting a lot of self promotion of late...when there is an article, such as Mike Schennum it is almost no content and the only contribution by the person. Any thoughts? Doc 23:59, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it's tricky. Some of these entries seem to be in earnest, but without an understanding of the notability criterion, and others are clearly base self-promotion. I'm not sure what to do, except to expand the description of the list to be more emphatic, and to keep on reverting, etc. As you see, i didn't get too far in my little project (somewhere in the "Cs"), but I think that's worth working on through the list until all or most of the unrecognised names have been researched and either verified and kept or not-found and removed (and rarely, kept anyway, just in case). Got any ideas? Pinkville 06:10, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm willing to work on some as well, but I'm also very busy outside of Wikipedia at present. Perhaps I'll start with the letter "S" and work from there as I can. Doc 20:05, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
That would certainly be very helpful. Pinkville 01:41, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
I've done "P". I wish I could promise to do more, but this work is slow and depressing. Among the blue links, Scarlet Page looks a bit dubious (having put out no books and having had no exhibitions, or possibly one exhibition), but I know there'd be shrieks of "It's verifiable!" if I acted on my gut feelings. Plus her dad is really, really famous, and I've recently come to think that WP is the world's largest-ever soap opera guide, in which the relatives, bedmates, drug intakes and even (for Elvis Presley) bowel movements of whoever the masses are obsessed with are accorded reverent treatment. -- Hoary 08:05, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, it is slow. Scarlet Page is a borderline case, but maybe not so far from Anton Corbijn, and other rock photographers who might legitimately be listed. As for revered bowel movements, etc., some folks take "God is in the details" very literally. Pinkville 16:46, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nick Albertson

Two attempts have been made to insert Nick Albertson, each time linking to his site.

Read about Albertson for yourself. Note that he hasn't published any books, and hasn't had any solo shows. Hardly surprising, as he has only just graduated from university.

I wish him well in his career. If/when others take note of him, he can get his place in this list. Until then, he can't. -- Hoary 04:40, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

We could start a list of non-notable photographers... Pinkville 11:37, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Ah, now that would be a place for me at last. -- Hoary 14:22, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
.......and so, so many more of us ! Velela 14:25, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, Mr. Albertson has been quite persistent in trying to link this list to his site -- I've removed the link several times. Gabby Lang is associated with Albertson in that their sites link to each other and the same users have made several attempts to link both of them to the list.

Perhaps we should more stictly enforce removal of names without Wikipedia articles. The downside, of course, would be that this would cut out a lot of notable photographers who do not yet have articles. Perhaps we could keep a running list of persons who we plan to write articles about.

SteveHopson 16:35, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] proposal to control for non-notable photographers

Let's try this: Remove all redlinked names from the List and put them here (or on a sub-page?), then, as each redlinked name has an article created for it, remove the name from the sub-list and add it to the List. A sub-list (or draft-list) would make the annotations {such as "William Gruber (inventor of View-Master)"}less distracting and, in fact, encourage such inclusions as preliminary background for future articles. What do y'all think? Pinkville 17:32, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

  • I agree, we can add a comment to the main page to the effect that only entries with Wiki articles are acceptable, but that they can add their names to this list as a request for review. SteveHopson 17:37, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Exactly. Pinkville 17:41, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
A stunningly obviously wonderful stroke of genius there, Pink. I'm kicking myself for not having thought of it myself. (I'll send you the medical bill later.) No, really, it's very good. And I promise to do some of the donkeywork within the next 24 hours: not right now, as I haven't yet ingested the first coffee of the day. -- Hoary 22:29, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm glad you like it. I believe the only question for the moment is: sub-list here on the talk page or on a subpage? Though I read the page on subpages, I'm still not clear as to whether it would be acceptable in these circumstances or not... Once that issue is resolved, I'll also start making changes! Pinkville 00:40, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Oh, and no medical bills here in Canada... yet. ;~)Pinkville 00:42, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Excellent idea...I have become more and more troubled with the number of non notable additions and the difficulty with giving a fair chance to check the names without articles. Doc 02:27, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Preparing the sub-list of photographers

For the time being, I'm going to shift the redlinked photographers here. If we later decide that a subpage is more appropriate, they'll all be in one place anyway. Now that I've donethe shifting, if anyone wants to tidy the layout here or the proviso on the article page itself... Pinkville 03:07, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Good job, the pages look much better -- this must have been alot of work. The comments are helpful. I plan on starting articles on many of these redlined photogs and the info gives a place to start. SteveHopson 14:21, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Although famous for reasons other than his photography . . .

Do we really need this comment on Che Guevara and others? I would think that the article would make this point clear. Now that this list is cleaned up, I was wondering what y'all would think about removing these annotations. SteveHopson 14:25, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

My feeling is that we could leave the annotated version here on the talk page, but list the name alone on the article page. That way, if anyone questions the inclusion of someone like Che Guevara, the explanation is only a click away. Pinkville 15:00, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
I agree that leaving the information here is helpful. Doc 16:19, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Robert Voltaire

Robert Voltaire, a new addition, somehow looks dodgy to me. Comments? -- Hoary 07:58, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I checked for him in various references and found nothing. On Google I was rewarded with links to his MySpace and PhotoSharing accounts, though it does seem he has photographed models for the German GQ. I'd say he's a borderline case, and his WP article is wretched: "He has brown hair and eyes, is 6'1" tall." Rivetting stuff. I detect a faint odour of vanity article. Here's some more biographical info, but more damning (n.b. "Experience 1-3" - years?) than supporting, as far as I'm concerned. Pinkville 13:20, 16 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Are any of these photographers important, really?

And of those who are important, are there any good articles? Me, I'd immediately name A, B, C (and want to dampen enthusiasm for those frauds X, Y and Z). You'd have other ideas. But there mightn't be much point in doing so here. However, there could be some point to doing so in a "WikiProject". Take a look here to see the kind of opportunity that might arise.

Photography might well fall into one or two existing projects -- but they don't seem all that active.

Wikipedia: List of WikiProjects tells me of Wikipedia:WikiProject Photography but this is for contributing photographs to WP; a bit different from what I'm starting to think might be on the horizon (if others more energetic than I were also interested, and as long as no trolls show up). -- Hoary 09:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Your suggestion makes sense. I can imagine something called Wikipedia:WikiProject History of Photography (since Wikipedia:WikiProject Photography has been taken), which is functionally divided into two main streams: Photographers and subjects in Photography. To this point, the WP articles on Photographers are still weighted toward 20th century Euroamerican photographers, neglecting the earliest, the most recent, and those who hail from other lands. Current subjects in photography seem to tend towards products and some technical articles, but leave out much of the history, theory and related issues or deal with them in a haphazard fashion. I wouldn't mind working out a preliminary outline for such a Project... Pinkville 13:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I like that title, but I'd like to sleep on it (and of course get Steve's input) before saying yes.

How about technical aspects? I think articles on such matters as wet collodion and infrared are relevant. To a lesser extent, articles on kinds of cameras are too -- but that's kinds of cameras, e.g. rollfilm TLR; not scads of recycled press releases and fancruft on the Grabasonic P300V versus the Grabasonic P400V (not a bad camera, actually; I have one) versus the Quasar Grimage X11 etc etc ad nauseam. "Processes, yes; hardware, no?" -- Hoary 14:44, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, processes, camera types and related topics are very worthwhile, but I bore easily re: the Grabasonic XXX-style articles, which usually read like brochures. For the Project page I can envision a list of resources (links and bibliographic citations) both as an aide for work on the Project and as a "for further reading" reference. Such a list could almost be a third stream in the project. Also must sleep - as it were. Pinkville 18:17, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Putting hardware aside for a moment, there's so much to do. I've just looked through all the blue-linked "A" people. Anthony Asael appears, how shall I put this, to have been written with love and care. A couple of the others look borderline vanity. Fratelli Alinari is a vanity article, which does a huge disservice to the illustrious history and significance of that company. There are several photographers whose names start with "A" who obviously deserve good (or even "Good") articles; I think none gets one. (No, some aren't bad. But I really don't think any is good.) I lack the stamina to look beyond "A" right now, but I start to wonder whether any well known photographer gets the article he deserves. (Counterexamples would be most welcome.) Is there any point in starting a project when there's no model one can put forward for emulation? -- Hoary 02:01, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

It's all very humbling. But here's a start. There have been three Featured Articles on photographers: Felice Beato, El Lissitzky, and Roman Vishniac, and one Good Article: Hiroh Kikai. I'm currently in the process of adding inline citations to the Beato article to make it conform to the now obvious WP preference. These four arguably might serve as models for the more significant figures on the list. Those photographers who can less justifiably claim to "catch eyes and smiles from all over the world" will get the article they deserve in the form of a paragraph or two, I suppose. Pinkville 03:33, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

As I use Mozilla to view Felice Beato, his panorama overlaps his ToC. That technical problem aside, the article looks good, as does that of Roman Vishniac. El Lissitzky is fine too, but of course he wasn't primarily a photographer. I hadn't known of any of these articles. And Hiroh Kikai, yes, I was vaguely aware of that one, and I think it's good in its way, but I have certain qualms about presenting it as one among a very small number of good models. ¶ Good, we have at least two good articles. For the following week, I'll be too busy to be able to put much time into any particular article, but I then hope to start work on one or other of the photographers whose names start with "A", most likely Abbott or Atget. -- Hoary 03:56, 15 July 2006 (UTC) PS I've just now fixed the ToC-crunching problem (I hope). 04:08, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the repair. I'd hate to think that many users wouldn't see the article and panorama properly. Pinkville 04:11, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I've got more material here about Abbott than about Atget, so I think I'll work on Berenice Abbott. And if nobody writes about Eugene Richards, I suppose I'll have to do him too. There'd be nothing proprietorial about either, of course: please feel very free to join me. Today's "main page" tells me: Recently featured: Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith – Bangladesh – Wayne Gretzky and "IMHO", ha ha, Abbott and Richards deserve to be featured more than two of those three do. Yes, today being Cliché Day, I suggest that the history of photography needs a greater critical mass of Really Good Stuff before it reaches the tipping point needed for a successful "WikiProject". -- Hoary 03:36, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, as a Canadian I feel it's only my birthright and duty to do whatever I can to elevate The Great One to his rightful place in the Firmament of the Heavens. ...Oh, you meant Bangladesh was worthy! Ooops. Yeah, it's remarkable that so few photography articles have even had a whiff of FA or GA. Let's roll up sleaves, etc. Pinkville 04:06, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, he's indeed Great: While in Edmonton, Gretzky endorsed a variety of products including denim jeans, his own line of wallpaper, pillow cases, cereal, chocolate bars, clocks, lunch box and a Mattel doll. Past and present plugs include Koho, Titan, and Easton hockey sticks, Thrifty, Peak Antifreeze, Ford-Canada, Coca-Cola, Esso, McDonald's, Campbell's Soup, the Official All-Star Café chain (with Tiger Woods, Shaquille O'Neal, Ken Griffey, Jr., Monica Seles, and Andre Agassi), Primestar TV, Upper Deck, Nike, Ultra Wheels, Hallmark Cards, Zurich Insurance, 7 Up, Tylenol and Canadian Imperial Bank, and Power Automotive Group. He and Ty did commercials for the Sharp Viewcam. (Beat that, Berenice Abbott!) Meanwhile, this Bangladesh -- does it run on the PS2 or the X-Box? ¶ I've started to clear some junk from the article on Berenice "zero endorsement deals" Abbott. Tellingly, the only sourced material is stuff on how she was lesbian, which, again tellingly, is sourced from an article in the kind of gaylesbiantransetcetera site that makes a big thing of saying that people are gaylesbianetc. Perhaps I'd better add some material (on her photography, not her private life) before I cut any more junk. -- Hoary 04:43, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

I'd be proud to participate in this project. I think the project approach is a really effective means of taking these photo pages to the next level. Each of us alone is overwhelmed with trying to write good articles on these subjects, but all of us together could really make a difference. I think it would be useful to express what we consider a good photo article to be. Of course, most of the standards are already expressed in other Wiki guidelines, so what I'd like to see is an extension of those guidelines. For example, I think that a good article about a photographer requires an example of his work, so that the reader can really visualize that person's work. The historical approach suggested in the title for this project further implies that each article should have some information on the subject's (person, process, or camera) role in development of modern photography. SteveHopson 01:11, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Glad you're interested. Your point on cooperation is key.
I have an idea that even a preliminary outline page to structure the project would be helpful at this stage. Obviously it's vital to improve the articles of the most significant photographers and subjects in photography, but parallel to that drive it might be useful to have a structured priority list. While working on Niepce, et al I wouldn't want to neglect subjects that are important but that have received much less attention than they deserve. So maybe I'm suggesting that with the most obviously important figures/subjects we also work on the most important neglected figures/subjects - in tandem. Add to that structure your suggestion of expanding the guidelines for good articles and I think there's a comprehensive yet manageable project in the works. Pinkville 02:27, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
[Edit conflict] -- Excellent, Steve. One problem is, "all of us together" number (excuse me while I go off and count my fingers), er, three. Can you think of any more people to drag in once this has been kicked off? ¶ Meanwhile, today's "featured article" is about Final [if only!] Fantasy X: Set in the fantasy world of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Spira, the game's story centers around a group of adventurers and their quest to defeat a rampaging force known as "Sin." Somehow I think most of the listed photographers are more interesting and significant (and are better at non-ersatz fantasy), but I'm one of those weirdos who actually reads books without moving his lips, so what would I know? -- Hoary 02:34, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
You mean you read talking books, right? Cuz anythin else would be weird. It's all very preliminary, but I have some notes started at this page. Meanwhile, I'll continue plugging away with the non-Xbox/Hollywood/Hockey irrelevancies of some photographers' articles. Oh, and D C McJonathan might be interested. He's contributed a lot to the List. Pinkville 03:14, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Count me in. My time limitations fluctuate, but this is certainly one of my areas of interest and I have a fair library of books on the history of photography. I'll do what I can. Doc 03:54, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Great! Now we are four. Pinkville 13:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

The draft looks interesting. Can we join you in working on it? -- Hoary 03:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Oops. Meant to say so. Please, be my guest! Pinkville 13:29, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nascent WikiProject - History of Photography

For those who are truly interested on developing the ideas mentioned in the above discussion, here's the link to the page with the draft outline for the project. Feel free to make changes. Pinkville 13:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject History of photography now exists. -- Hoary 12:32, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jean Baudrillard

This Great Bore of our Time is listed, but the article on him doesn't mention that he's taken any photos. Whassup? -- Hoary 01:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I couldn't agree more as to his refined abilities to enervate, but he has published (on two occasions, I believe) books of his photographs. The editors of his WP article were either uniformed, unimpressed or too drowsy to notice. Pinkville 02:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfDs

Whether you agree with the AfD or disagree with it, list any article undergoing AfD here. -- Hoary 12:59, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Later comment: I don't think it's usually a good idea to comment here on these articles (or the photographers who are their subjects). Rather, comment within the particular AfD, or, if appropriate, in the talk page of the particular article. Here, just say that this or that article is up for AfD, and later either that it survived the process or that it was deleted. -- Hoary 02:47, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Edgar de Evia was one of the most established editorial and commercial photographers of the 1950s. Anyone familiar with this period may wish to voice your opinion on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edgar de Evia. Doc ♬ talk 23:39, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Ingelbert Lievaart. -- Hoary 13:01, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
    • PS deleted via AfD. -- Hoary 11:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)‎
  • Gallen Mei. -- Hoary 13:01, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
    • PS deleted via AfD. -- Hoary 11:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Martin Ryter. -- Hoary 04:10, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
    • PS deleted via AfD. -- Hoary 06:54, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Chris Jepson (photographer) -- Hoary 04:17, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
    • PS deleted via AfD. -- Hoary 06:54, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Drausio Haddad Previously removed from this page, now has a new life as a multimedia artist/filmmaker. This person and his possible sock-puppets has twice removed the deletion notice from his article. SteveHopson 03:13, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
    • PS deleted via AfD. SteveHopson 00:42, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Drausio R. Haddad It seems that the same group of suspected sock puppet editors have created this article under two names and thereby cleverly avoided detection on this one. Special points for creativity and deviousness! SteveHopson 03:33, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
    • PS deleted via AfD. -- SteveHopson 19:10, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Brent Murray SteveHopson 00:49, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
    • PS deleted via AfD. -- Hoary 04:19, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Seth Sabal -- Hoary 11:21, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
    • PS deleted via AfD -- Hoary 07:01, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Alan Lodge Currently nominated for a speedy delete, although the author and another editor have twice removed the tag. SteveHopson 12:44, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
    • I'm another editor, but I haven't removed the tag. There's some assertion of (modest) notability in the article, and I can't see how it should be a CSD. I have considerable doubts about the article, and if it were to be put up on AfD I'd read the arguments for and against with interest. -- Hoary 15:52, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Amy Cohen Banker -- Hoary 07:40, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Clearly, she is a talented painter. Her photography is still at an early, rudimentary level of development. SteveHopson 15:44, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
    • PS deleted via AfD. -- Hoary 02:25, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Vicky Brago-Mitchell -- Hoary 04:19, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

October 2006 (UTC)

    • PS deleted via AfD. -- Hoary 07:13, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Harold Davis

Harold Davis (born 1953) is a writer and photographer with special interest in experimental digital techniques involving photograms, cross-processing, and UV/IR captures.

[edit] External link

.......... added at 02:46, 26 October 2006 by PashaBear

This seems to be a draft for Harold Davis (photographer). If somebody wants it there, he or she can copy it, click the red link I've provided above, and paste it there. But I'd suggest that this editor explains the notability of Davis's photos (listing solo exhibitions etc.) within the article, and provides independent verification for all of this. -- Hoary 04:06, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A project taking over?

Take a look here. -- Hoary 23:48, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

And WikiProject History of photography now exists too. -- Hoary 12:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

This page is within the scope of WikiProject History of photography, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to articles on the history of photography on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.
NA This page is not an article and does not require a rating on the quality scale.

[edit] About removing photographers names who dont have articles

Some of these artists were probably listed because they are important but havent yet been included as an article. I for one peruse this area to get ideas about who I may want to work with. I see no problem with listing non-article artists at all. Artsojourner 16:30, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

"Non-article" photographers are added to Talk:List of photographers (see above), which is the list that editors can consult to see whose article they might want to work on (anyone can add to this list). Please read the pertinent discussions above to understand why red-linked names are removed from the main article: List of photographers. However, I'm a little perplexed as to why you removed several names (of photographers who do have articles) from the main List, why you shifted some names around on the list so that they were no longer alphabetical, and why you changed the spelling of one of the names. The word "Wikipedia" was recently removed from the List description in keeping with the Wikipedia Manual of Style. Pinkville 17:48, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
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