Talk:List of people by name: Taylor, J

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Jerzy•t 19:17, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why is this page said to have "level jams"?

The main-namespace LoPbN page for "Taylo..." names has as of this date the following ToC:

Contents [hide]
1 Access to rest of list
2 Taylor as whole surname
2.1 Taylor, A
2.2 Taylor, B
2.3 Taylor, C-H
2.4 Taylor, D-E
2.5 Taylor, F-I
2.6 Taylor, J
2.6.1 Taylor, Ja-Ji
2.6.2 Taylor, Jo
2.6.2.1 Taylor, Joa-Joc
2.6.2.2 Taylor, Joh
2.6.2.2.1 People surnamed Taylor and given-named John
2.6.2.2.1.1 Taylor, John (without middle name or initial), died by 1900
2.6.2.2.1.2 Taylor, John (without middle name or initial), alive after 1900
2.6.2.2.1.3 Taylor, John A-W
2.6.2.2.2 Taylor, Johnn
2.6.2.3 Taylor, Jos
2.6.3 Taylor, Ju
2.7 Taylor, K-L
2.8 Taylor, M
2.9 Taylor, N-P
2.10 Taylor, R
2.10.1 Taylor, R.-Ri
2.10.2 Taylor, Ro
2.11 Taylor, S
2.12 Taylor, T
2.13 Taylor, V-Z
3 Taylor as first unit of compound surname

Each level of indentation of the ToC reflects at least one level of hiearchical subdivision of the list, with one level reflecting, in nearly every case, the deeper level having at least one more letter in common among all its entries than the level above has. (The exceptions are other kinds of subdivision, e.g. in this case the distinction between having "Taylor" as some kind of a name at the higher level and separating, at the deeper level, its use as one person's whole surname from its use as one of two surnames joined by a space or a hyphen.)

The level jams here are levels in the implemention that can be considered to reflect "jamming together" what could have been separate transitions between levels.

For example, part of the structure of the ToC of the "Taylo..." page's implementation is:

2 Taylor as whole surname
--- (ignoring the deeper levels)
3 Taylor as first unit of compound surname

but the level "Taylo..."'s full subdivision could include these levels (where the bulleted items are hypothetical sample names belonging in the corresponding subdivisions:

Tayloa - Tayloq
Taylor...
People named Taylor
Taylor as given name
Taylor as surname
Taylor as whole surname
--- (ignoring the deeper existing levels)
Taylor as first unit of compound surname
Taylora - Taylorz
Taylos - Tayloz

So this level jam consists of using a single implemented transition between the level that includes "Taylo..." and the level of both "Taylor as whole surname" and "Taylor as first unit of compound surname", "jamming" three theoretical transitions into one implemented one and making no mention of the sublists on the upper sides of the theoretical transitions. This is harmless until names belonging in another sublist at the same level as one of the unmentioned ones; in this case, that seems unlikely: the most plausible scenario would probably be a royal-family member with Taylor as given name.

The other examples on the "Taylo..." page are represented by this portion of the ToC:

2.6.2.2 Taylor, Joh
2.6.2.2.1 People surnamed Taylor and given-named John
2.6.2.2.1.1 Taylor, John (without middle name or initial), died by 1900
2.6.2.2.1.2 Taylor, John (without middle name or initial), alive after 1900
2.6.2.2.1.3 Taylor, John A-W
2.6.2.2.2 Taylor, Johnn

With full implementation of transitions, the ToC would look like

2.6.2.2 Taylor, Joh
2.6.2.2.1 Taylor, John
2.6.2.2.1.1 People surnamed Taylor and given-named John
2.6.2.2.1.1.1 Taylor, John (without middle name or initial)
2.6.2.2.1.1.1.1 Taylor, John (died by 1900)
2.6.2.2.1.1.1.2 Taylor, John (alive after 1900)
2.6.2.2.1.2 Taylor, John A-W
2.6.2.2.1.2 Taylor, Johnn

Again, the omitted sublist hdgs have been italicized; in this case it highlights the fact that there are two separate level jams near the bottom of the hierarchy. The transition down to "Taylor, John..." is jammed in with that to "People surnamed Taylor and given-named John", while that to "...(without middle name or initial)" is jammed in with the transition down to the date-based level.
This final jam differs from both of the preceding examples in that it collects together in one implemented level, from different theoretical levels, sublists that not only have name entries, but also each have close to a full screenful of them.
--Jerzy•t 19:41, 24 May 2006 (UTC)


I think this TOC is just fine, and pragmatic for a special situation (this has to be one of the more common surnames in the LOPbN). Has anyone said otherwise? --Alvestrand 06:31, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
No, not yet. I'm a compulsive SOB, tho, which means two things:
  1. I'm likely to be carefully consistent about things no one else will care about until they think hard about it (and maybe even after).
  2. One of the things i'm careful abt is justifying the reasons for my inconsistencies, when an excessively consistent compulsiveness becomes clear to me.
Well, that's overstated a little: actually, i've long set up level jams among the sections on pages that have "headroom" for eliminating them easily if the "hidden" levels get populated; these are about as safe from becoming disruptive as the older ones, for one reason: bcz as the name-fragments that name the pages get longer, the bet that troublesome names won't turn up gets safer. So chalk the explanation up to an excess of caution.
--Jerzy•t 01:10, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of people from Taylor page, to be merged in

I'll check and add these in over the next day or so as I have the time:

People whose surname is or was Taylor include:

All entries already on LOPBN struck out -- won't be able to finish merging in today. — Catherine\talk 01:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

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