Talk:List of mountains in New Hampshire

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[edit] Split/Merge/Reassign?

This message was also posted by me to Talk:Four-thousand footers.

I suggest that the article Four-thousand footers be kept in the "Mountaineering" category and dropped from the "Geography of New Hampshire" category, because there is an independent article List of mountains in New Hampshire. The 4K footer article covers the NE 4K and 100 Highest, which is not properly exclusively NH geography. The "List" article should be included in the "Geography of New Hampshire" category and renamed Mountains of New Hampshire so as to be consistent with the format for other geographical features. It can refer to the 4K Footers article and peaks appropriately marked as listed, but could also include others, such as Clay (er, Reagan), Jim, and smaller peaks such as Monadnock. Thoughts? FrostHeaves 18:09, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Arghman 12:24, 23 May 2006 (UTC): I have deleted the "Giles Mountain" from the list. There is certainly not one that is 4000' elevation.

[edit] Article titles

There seems to be no predictable way that the mountain articles have been named. Some are named "x Mountain", and some are name "x Mountain (New Hampshire)". I suggest that summit names that appear in more than one state in the GNIS, or in more than one Wikipedia article, be named "x Mountain (New Hampshire)", but that otherwise they just be named "x Mountain".

Examples:

• Mount Washington (New Hampshire) is correctly named, because there are many Mount Washingtons.
• Boott Spur (New Hampshire) becomes Boott Spur, as there is only one.
• Cannon Mountain (New Hampshire) remains unchanged, because there are several Cannon Mountains in the U.S., even though there is only one Wikipedia article.

I will be removing "(New Hampshire)" from the article names for unique summits. --Ken Gallager 12:47, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

The problem is that a year or two from now, as wikipedia slices the universe into ever-finer articles, are you sure that another Boott Spur won't show up? Plenty of these articles (including, I think, Mount Washington) were created without any geographic addition in wikipedia's earlier days, and have had to be moved since to make sure. Perhaps we should just leave them all in the same format. - DavidWBrooks 15:32, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I suppose there's a remote possibility that there may be a Boott Spur (or whatever) in another country somewhere. I know for sure, though, that there are no others (of the ones I've renamed) anywhere else in the U.S. This is based on checking the USGS Geographic Names Information System. I think it'll be pretty easy to keep on top of any surprises that turn up... --Ken Gallager 12:09, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Multiple-peaked mountains

Over on Talk:Four-thousand footers I asked if, e.g., the North and South peaks of Kinsman or the North, Middle, and South peaks of Tripyramid should be considered separate mountains with separate articles, like North, Middle, and South Carter Mountain, or just considered parts of one mountain, like the peaks of Adams or Wildcat? Or some one way and some the other—but which? Is there some standard we can use, say some minimum prominence and horizontal separation, or just a sense of 'these are different enough to be distinct'? —wwoods 18:44, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Here's how the Appalachian Mountain Club does it in the NH 4000-footer list: "To qualify for the list, a peak must rise 200 feet above any ridge connecting it to a higher neighbor. As a result, several notable peaks (including Clay, Guyot and the south peak of Moosilauke) are not included on the lists despite their height. Determinations are made according to the most current USGS topographical maps and peaks have been added to or deleted from the lists as newer maps became available." [1] - DavidWBrooks 19:15, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Do you then think we should merge Mt. Clay (139 ft of prominence) and Boott Spur (100 ft) into Washington, the way Sam Adams (100 ft) and Quincy Adams (65 ft) are included in Mt. Adams?

—wwoods 02:48, 14 October 2006 (UTC)