Talk:List of gaps in Interstate Highways

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Will somebody add a "Median gaps" section of this article, or is it too common for that coverate? At-grade crossroads on Interstates in the west and other regions with a median break are an exception to this topic. --SuperDude 18:47, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

What do you mean by median gaps? I don't think there are any sections not at toll booths that have no median. --SPUI (talk) 19:29, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Will there ever be a massload of new Interstate designations with discontiguous setups like in the early years of the Interstate? I becha this article will overload with that info. Should we add a YBY history for giIH? --SuperDude 04:15, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

There was a substandard mention in the "freeway gaps" section:

Should this entry go to "True gaps" since sinage indicates otherwise for this road designation? --SuperDude 04:20, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Er, no, signage shows I-676 continuing through. --SPUI (talk) 05:01, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Would it be a good idea to bold the interstate numbers in the list so that they stand out a bit more? Filiocht | Blarneyman 08:27, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Super 2

Is their any Interstate with portions of a Super-2 expressway that wouldn't fall into the "Freeway gaps" section? --SuperDude 02:32, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Not that I know of. --SPUI (talk) 03:17, 30 May 2005 (UTC)


[edit] More Chicago Skyway controversy

Whomever writes TollroadsNews asked whether or not the Chicago Skyway is part of Interstate 90. According to my understanding of the article, Cecilio A Leonin of the FHWA Office of Program Administration states Illinois always considered the Skyway as I-90 when they were reporting cost estimates to Congress during the Interstate construction period back in the 1950s, and today when Illinois reports to Congress for its portion of Interstate Maintenance funds. [1] Though as the article later notes, this is dependent on Illinois actually knowing and reporting accurately what the Skyway is. SterlingNorth 29 June 2005 05:02 (UTC) (PS: sigh, I'll never get the hang of external links)

I rewrote the section on the Chicago Skyway to point out that there is confusion and controversy on this issue, and that the Illinois DOT and FHA have always and still considered it part of I-90. Also did a few other, more minor changes. Comments? -- Ithacagorges 30 June 2005 14:44? (UTC)

[edit] Definition of "true gap"?

Am I the only one that finds the given definition of a "true gap" confusing and unclear, and not covering all mentioned intances (here and elsewhere) of one? However, I am not estute enough to write a better definition. -- Ithacagorges 30 June 2005 14:46? (UTC)

Hmmm - I guess I can see the confusion, but I'm not sure exactly how to put it. The idea is that the two roads are supposed to be the same Interstate, due to numbering and planning, but a portion in the middle was not built or designated as such. I-265 in Kentucky and Indiana might fit there, but I can't see any others. --SPUI (talk) 30 June 2005 18:37 (UTC)
From http://www.kurumi.com/roads/3di/ix65.html: "I used to consider the Kentucky and Indiana parts as the same interstate, but the FHWA lists them separately." [Twice, once for each state] Therefore, this is not a true gap, at least not at this time. Mapsax 17:50, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Some maps mark certain Interstate designations on portions where signage proves otherwise, the International Bridge near Sault Ste. Marie is marked as I-75 on many maps, would that qualify as a listing for true gaps? --SuperDude 23:41, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
    • No; that's the map's fuckup. --SPUI (talk) 09:05, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
    • How would that qualify as a gap anyway? It's the highway's terminus -- the only question it creates is whether I-75 ends on the bridge or at the approach, not whether there's a gap in it. Bearcat 17:04, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Interstate-to-Interstate Connection Gaps

The definition in the article states that "Places where Interstates cross but don't connect via a freeway-standard connection" don't count for this article. What Wiki page does keep track of that information? Some interstate-to-interstate conection gaps have major economic and cultural significance, like the 70-to-70/76 gap in Breezewood, Pennsylvania, just as significant for Pittsburgh & beyond (facing the cataloged 70-to-70 gap) as for Philadelphia & beyond (facing the not-cataloged 70-to-76 gap). --M@rēino 14:58, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

The Breezewood gap IS on here, because it isn't just the lack of freeway-standard ramps between Interstates; it is a gap in freeway-standards on I-70. As for places where two cross but no proper interchange (I-84 and I-87; I-95 and I-276; I-95 and I-295 (NJ); etc) there's loads of those. I'm not sure where those should be listed, but if there isn't a place, maybe there should be. --Chris 18:17, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
If there's not already such a page; St Louis has more than it's fair share of them
  • Eastbound I-40 does not directly connect with I-170; one has to exit onto street traffic and take it a few blocks. (By contrast, westbound I-40 & Southbound I-170 have direct connections.)
  • Eastbound I-40 does not connect with either westbound I-70 nor westbound I-44 as it merges. One has to exit well before the merger and take street traffic a few miles or else double back (generally after crossing into IL.)
  • Eastbound I-44 does not connect with southbound I-55. One has to exit well before the merger and take street traffic a few miles or else doubleback.
  • Northbound I-55 does not connect with westbound I-44. One has to exit well before the merger and take street traffic a few miles or else doubleback.

Jon 20:53, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

    • You mean I-64/US-40, not I-40. 71.81.199.239 04:51, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ohio Turnpike freeway gaps?

The cross-roads are not to be used by normal vehicles. They are extremely common. (not just in ohio; they're everywhere) I think that this may be out of the scope of this document. --Chris 00:57, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] I-40 gap?

I searched the Western Texas Panhandle, and I can't find any driveways on the Interstate anywhere. Can someone help me? --209.34.20.194 01:55, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

[2] has one on I-40 in Texas with a median break (this one?), and a few signs for ones in New Mexico without median breaks. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 14:50, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Additional Interstates with no connection to parent

There are two Interstates in St.Petersburg, FL which do not connect with their parent. Interstates I-175 and I-375, both only a mile and a half long, connect with I-275. I-75 connects with I-275 about 30 miles northeast and again about 15-20 miles to the south. Although from 1971 to 1973 this section of I-275 was the western end of Interstate 75, I-375 was built in 1977 and I-175 in 1978.

It could be considered that I-275 is the parent of I-175 and I-375, with I-75 being the "grandparent" (to continue the analogy). There are other instances of this scattered around (exs.: I-795 from I-695 near Baltimore; I-990 from I-290 near Buffalo). Mapsax 17:24, 30 April 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Interstate 265

I deleted this language because it is now obsolete due to the project moving forward:

"to form a future beltway around metropolitan Louisville, Kentucky. Funding to complete these two bridges and adjoining freeway has not yet been allocated. Additionally, the exact routing has not yet been finalized, as there are two possible connection points - one with I-265 in Kentucky, and one with I-264 in Kentucky, which would necessitate a change in the numbering of the Indiana portion of the highway."

[edit] Interstate 69

The state of Kentucky has started to put up I-69 signs on their portions of the I-69 expansion. At what point do these segments become officially part of I-69 and a gap in the interstate? --Holderca1 17:37, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

If they have put up their new I-69 signs without qualifications such as "Future" or "Temp", then the answer is "now". -- KelleyCook 18:23, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Not necessarily, the Missouri Department of Transportation has been putting up I-64 signs without qualifications in St Charles County to US-40 as it completes each segment's upgrade to interstate standards because they don't want to have to go back and add them in a few years when the interstate construction completes. (It's close; only two street light intersections and disconnecting a few residential streets to go.) Jon 21:02, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
First of all, has MDOT put any I-64 signs west of Missouri K, where the official terminus is? If so, then I-64 should be mentioned on the page. Second of all my point is that Indiana has not even decided on the route for the southern half of I-69 yet it has been reported that Kentucky has labeled their segment. If that is true, then there is a ~200 mile gap between two opened segments of I-69. But according to this recent official press release[3], they should be labeled "I-69 Corridor" and therefore would not be a gap. -- KelleyCook 18:09, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
It looks like they are in fact future I-69 signs. Looking into it, most of the parkway system in Kentucky does not meet interstate standards, although they met when they were constructed in the 70's. But the way things are going in Indiana, Kentucky should complete their segments before they do. But no gap for now. --Holderca1 15:56, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] False Gaps Dispute

Alright, User:SPUI, what do you dispute about False Gaps. The supposed "issue" seems pretty well answered to me. If you feel its poorly worded rewrite it, but don't put up a dispute notice with no explanation. If its the word "false" you don't like, maybe change change it to "mistaken" -- KelleyCook 15:56, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Interstate 291 in Massachusetts?

There's a signaled intersection where the end of 291 meets with the Mass Pike/I-90. Would it merit mentioning, considering that it's this connection that makes it 291 and not 191? --(no userid) 02:57, 9 August 2006 (EDT)

It would fall under the 4th bullet of the Other gaps section. --Holderca1 18:48, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
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