Talk:List of fruits
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You guys are missing citrus fruits
I just added Kemunting under Tropical Fruits. Buah kemunting was my favorite wild berry when I was living in rural Terengganu, Malaysia. However, I do not know the Latin name for it. If anyone does, please add it.
Michael
I'm not sure where this goes. I'll leave it here til I find out. Tristanb 06:00 19 May 2003 (UTC)
Does anyone know where the poha should go on this list? Wiwaxia 02:00, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)
An argument could be made for not separating the list into divisions as it is now. WormRunner 04:17, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- I'd agree - sorting by family would be my preference. - MPF 22:27, 6 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I also think all true fruits (i.e., tomato should be included. - MPF 22:28, 6 Mar 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] What about the OLIVE ?
I am pretty sure the olive is a fruit. See http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/olive.html That seems like a fairly significant omission from this list.
- Yes and yes. Why don't you add it? Pollinator 03:14, Aug 4, 2004 (UTC)
- Olive and cherry are drupes. It hasn't been decided here whether this is a culinary list or a botanical list. Since it's not an exhaustive list, a retitling would be sensible: List of some fruits commonly available in markets or the like. Wetman 03:33, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Olive is a drupe is a fruit and it is commonly available in markets around the world, including my home town. I just added it to the list. See how easy that was? WormRunner | Talk 04:35, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Olive and cherry are drupes. It hasn't been decided here whether this is a culinary list or a botanical list. Since it's not an exhaustive list, a retitling would be sensible: List of some fruits commonly available in markets or the like. Wetman 03:33, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I removed Elton John from the list of American Fruits... I firstly believe he is British and secondly should be under the headding of inedible fruits.
Please someone knows botanicals for the "Christoferine" ?:http://www.ipfsaph.org/id/WTOTBTNF036353
[edit] PENWICH ANYONE?
Has anybody ever heard of a fruit called "penwich" ???
[edit] the Fruit Book - linkspam?
User:163.139.215.193 removed THE FRUIT BOOK- Encyclopedia of fruits from the External links as 'linkspam'. I've looked at it, and while it has ads, the site itself looks useful. - Dalbury(Talk) 17:22, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
- I remember looking at that link a few weeks back. I also thought it was borderline linkspam, but perhaps just on the right side. I don't think we loose much by not having it, but if you wanted to put it back in I wouldn't be much troubled either. -- Solipsist 16:23, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Edibility
Are all these fruits edible?
- That's what the introduction says (except for the ones listed in section 9, Inedible fruit. Of course, you might find some of the fruit unpleasant (read about Durian, for example), but people have adopted a very large number of fruits into regional diets. -- Dalbury(Talk) 03:29, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] latin names not 100%
You forgot to add some latin names, e.g., for shiikuwasha, yuzu, ice plant. -- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.200.105.228 (talk • contribs) 00:59, 8 February 2006.
- Anyone can edit the page. Be bold and go for it. -- Solipsist 10:29, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Fruits by season
Is anyone else interested in a page listing when fruits (and vegetables) are "in season" for various regions? I would add it but I'm not sure where to start or what sources to use. Jonathan Kovaciny 14:37, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
- Sounds fairly impossible to me. Strawberries are in season in the summer in Finland but in winter in Thailand, while mangoes are in season in Singapore in the summer but in Australia in the winter, etc etc. Jpatokal 05:25, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- Ditto above, for many the notion of seasonal availability of many fruit and veg' no longer applies, as they are either exported/imported or grown "in captivity" User:ForteTwo 02:38, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Overhaul
Looking over this page and the current discussions finally made my head pop. I had been looking for a list of "fruits one might buy at a supermarket" for something interesting to try ...
Thinking about ways to order this data - there is no single good way to suit everyone's needs, this is something that can only be served well by a database query. So I argue for there being little point in attempting to order the list and instead rely on the browser's "find" function to locate a fruit's entry in the page. Failing that however, I'd do away with the categories that currently exist completely and go for a list by common (*culinary*) name, since that appears to be the primary reason for this page (I'd opt for ordering by family if this were a more scientifically oriented list of all fruit bodies). In fact I say it should be a list within a table that had columns for: other names, Latin name(s), origin, the possibly woolly "category" (i.e. berry, citrus fruit, nut or seed (there is that section on podocarps)), etc.
Perhaps there should also be a page of "fruit bodies" too, a superset of fruits, that can also include not only the tomato but also the cucumber, aubergine and even pumpkin?
I very nearly attempted a trial rehash for those who cared to consider but realised I didn't have that much time right now so rather than start something I couldn't finish ...
User:ForteTwo -- I, as a anonymous user and also under this name, have been guiding this pages development for some time now (though I has no hand in developing the sorting system or general page format).
The categories that currently exist are rather redundant, I must agree. The common names, as you have seen, are variable and many, even for a single fruit. The science - the binomial naming system- is the only way that we can accurately list these plants, even if it is for culinary usage mostly. I agree with you, but I think the common names listing would be a mistake, and by family would be to, because as you can see, the families are quite varied and obscure. The rose family has a big take in it, but the regional categories are important because they act as a catch for those plants im miscellaneous families. Currently the regional listings should be done away with because most people don’t know the area of many of their fruits origin . If you get in contact with me, I would like to help in overhauling this page, and it will go faster with two people. Fledgeling 16:32, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Fruit definition and podocarps
This article would be improved by including a definition for culinary fruit. What exactly is a fruit in the culinary sense of this article? Wiktionary says a fruit is "Any sweet, edible part of a plant that resembles fruit, even if it does not develop from a floral ovary; also used in a technically imprecise sense for some sweet or sweetish vegetables, such as rhubarb, that resemble a true fruit or are used in cookery as if they were a fruit." [1]
Give that gymnosperms do not produce true fruits, do podocarps belong on this list? Are podocarps seeds sweet? Fruit terms are often misapplied to gymnosperm seeds or cones, such as podocarp fruits, gingko nuts, pine nuts, yew berries and juniper berries. If podocarps are included then what about yew, ginkgo, juniper and pine because nuts and berries are types of true fruits?
What about sweet potato pie [2], sweet green tomato pie, [3], sweet eggplant pie [4], and similar uses of vegetables in sweet pies? Plantguy 00:10, 1 August 2006 (UTc)
- Podocarp cone flesh is sweet, juicy, and aromatic... and many are prominent features in the diets of native peoples who inhabit their general ranges, mostly in the southern hemisphere, even if they are not commonly eaten today.The juniper berries are generally not platible;even if they edible, and no one really eats yew berry flesh because of perceived toxicity. Pine and ginko SHOULD be added to the list of nuts if it has not been already. If you are using ‘pie’ in the sense as a baked good, no it should not be added Fledgeling 02:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the information. I added the Wiktionary culinary fruit definition to the opening. The last statement in the introduction is unclear, i.e. "There exist also many fruits that are edible; however, for various reasons have not become popular." It does not say if the edible, but not very popular, fruits are to be included in this list. Plantguy 23:06, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
