Talk:List of free first-person shooters

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Contents 1 Death Illustrated 2 BZFLAG 3 GunZ 4 first person full games only 5 official link for kingpin 6 NPOV? 7 Kuma\War 7.1 Kuma\War Re-added 7.2 Kuma\War Erased 7.3 Kuma\War Re-added 8 GPL/OSI approved licenses? 9 Wolfenstein 10 Free vs. freeware 11 What is a full game? 12 Standalone games betas? 13 Marathon (computer game series) 14 Broken Link To Death Illustrated Site 15 Multiplayer only 16 Screenshots 17 Hidden & Dangerous 18 BZFlag 19 Added sauerbraten to list 20 X Operations 21 Penumbra: Not an FPS 22 Fear Combat 23 Broken Link to Sierra Starseige Tribes download 24 Links Fixed 25 Is the anoucement good enough to add urban terror to the list 26 warrock 27 D-Day: Normandy 28 Singleplayer / Multiplayer 29 savage 30 allegiance?

[edit] Death Illustrated

What should be done about Death Illustrated? It no longer has an official page, and the current solution, the "---Website Not Available---" marker is just awful. I'm guessing we should just delete that section. (And please sign your posts with four Tildes ~) Zirka 17:13, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

I deleted the post... because it doesnt exist Sassan May 22, 2006

[edit] BZFLAG

Can someone prove this is a FPS and not a 3rd person... if not then it has to be gone. Sassan May 22, 2006

• Yes. Play the game, and you'll see that it is definitely a first person game. The camera is in the tank, not behind it. Chief1983 21:00, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GunZ

can people please stop adding GunZ to this list, it is clearly a 3rd person game and does not belong here.

[edit] first person full games only

this is a list for free first person full version games only

Since this is a First Person Shooter list. There is no need to continually repeat that a game is a first person shooter.

[edit] official link for kingpin

kingpin was removed and will not be added agian tell an official website link saying the game is free is supplied

[edit] NPOV?

Should this page be edited for closer to NPOV? I'm seeing things like "beautiful effects" and "great graphics and gameplay" and wondering if these should be reworded.

I had the exact same response. It reads like a giant ad. An article describing why people distribute free games would be encyclopedic, and should probably be at Free first-person shooter to follow naming conventions. If this is just going to list games, then it should be at List of free first-person shooters or possibly just turned into a category. In any case, something needs to be done about its tone. - BanyanTree 15:08, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

I agree. --Member 21:30, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Kuma\War

I hope I'm in the right place...Kuma\War should be on the Free First-Person Shooters list. There used to be a subscription fee of $9.99 per month, but now the games are entirely free and can be downloaded at www.kumawar.com. Can you please include this service? Thank you for your time.

[edit] Kuma\War Re-added

It seams you are right and this is a free first person shooter. It has been placed back on the page.

[edit] Kuma\War Erased

This is not a complete free game, it is only in open beta stages, if anyone can prove that this game is free forever then it will stay on the page.

Not to mention I think I played it and it was third person.--72.70.53.87 22:50, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kuma\War Re-added

Hi, Keith from KumaGames here. I'm the CEO and I assure you that Kuma\War is completely free to consumers. There was a subscription product in 2003 and 2004, but the game has been free since then. Kuma 1 has 74 free episodes and Kuma 2 -- the open beta -- has 4 free episodes. We are adding new free episodes every month. Kuma 1 is 1st and also 3rd person; Kuma 2 is 1st person only. We appreciate your efforts to keep Wikipedia accurate -- this is the latest info, right from the horses mouth.

[edit] GPL/OSI approved licenses?

I had hoped to be able to tell which if any of these games are opensource. In todays world of trojans and spyware, having source available is a prerec for installing software.. so could we add license info to the list? maybe OSI approved, Closed but free to play, Closed but free for non-comercial, etc etc?

I'd like that too. I was confused because of the disambiguity of the word "free". I had hoped to find Free Software games here. Geronimooo 21:55, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wolfenstein

Return to Castle Wolfenstien, i purchased it, i was at their site.

Looking for Enemies Terriory, you people listed it is a free game not a demo.

so...i am wondering, if Return to Castle is a demo, free game or not free

>x<ino 01:23, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

• "Return to Castle Wolfenstein" and "Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory" are very different. The former is not free, while the latter is. User:Phbbt107

[edit] Free vs. freeware

These games definitely need to state their license for us to check whether the are free (as a free speech) or freeware. For example America's Army (according to [1]) is freeware). CodeRED: Alien Arena requires reqistration, so likely to be freeware. Control Monger's website does not show license and download section does not contain sources -> sure freeware. --Alvin-cs ✉ 23:47, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Codered doesn't require any registration at all, and it is freeware however the engine itself is under the GPL. CheapAlert 23:07, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

"Freeware" does not mean Free. If the engine is GPL and the game is "Freeware," this does not make the game "free." The data files need to be OSI Free for a Free game; if they're restricted, the game is not Free. --User:Bluefoxicy

• Control monger is open beta, and so, should be deleted. In fact, i'll do that right now. --User:phbbt107

[edit] What is a full game?

I mean, you take .kkrieger on the list as a full game (it is only 100k). Is the JavaScript version of Wolfenstein 3D (aka Wolfenstein 5K) also a full first-person shooter then?

BTW, Starsiege: Tribes requires a CD-key. Ergo, you have to pay, with time. (to wait for the guys to produce new CD-keys (it says so on the page)) Then a lot of other games is also free, you just have to get an account first. Doesn't make sense.

--80.63.213.182

• Starsiege Tribes does not require any CD key to play nor does it have any copy protection. Only Tribes 2 has a CD key and account check. CheapAlert 23:55, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Also, .kkrieger is nothing but a tech demo showoff, so it shouldn't be listed here anyway. CheapAlert 23:56, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
    • .kkrieger is a tech demo, but is intended to be a full game. It is a first person shooter, free to use and distribute, and will never cost anything, assuming they ever finish it. --Chief1983 20:30, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Standalone games betas?

I would like to ask if a beta of a standalone game would be aloud here

NO betas

[edit] Marathon (computer game series)

What about the Marathon series? The Aleph One (computer game) project is free... Alphax ^τεχ 15:02, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

You don't even need to mention Aelph. Bungie has the original binaries freely available. I plan on adding the section now, but seeing as I know little about the game, it'll probably need to be revised. --Zirka 17:15, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Broken Link To Death Illustrated Site

jus thought I'd point that out. Medavox 12:28, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Multiplayer only

Most of these games are multiplayer only. If they all are, it might suffice to put a comment saying that in the introduction. If some have a single-player campaign or support playing against AI bots, that should be mentioned.

[edit] Screenshots

Please add a screenshot for every game you add on the list. Thank you everyone

[edit] Hidden & Dangerous

I added Hidden & Dangerous, but I know nothing about it. Please someone improve the entry. Ace of Sevens 20:28, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] BZFlag

Please do not remove BZFlag from the list without good reason. It is a first-person shooter (it's even categorized as one in Wikipedia's list of fps's), just because it doesn't involve being a human with free aim doesn't mean it's not an FPS. CheapAlert 22:19, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Added sauerbraten to list

i added sauerbraten to the list. used mostly prewritten resources from wikipedia and the sauerbraten homepage. --Dylan Mather 22:35, 13 July 2006 (UTC) also added cube screenshot --Dylan Mather 22:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] X Operations

I added xoperations to the list. I also added multiple links because the game is made by Japanese developers, and the majority of people that are going to look at this dont read/speak japanese so i felt it nessecary to include my X operations page (http://xoperations.freehostia.com and also included a russian page, though im not nessecarily sure how useful it will be. Please leave the english one as it is an obvious neccesity. --Dylan Mather 23:11, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Penumbra: Not an FPS

i dont know why "penumbra" is on this list of "freeFIRST PERSON SHOOTERS" when even the description states that penumbra is a free first person horror adventure game. I'm thinking it should be removed. Am i right?--Dylan Mather 22:41, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fear Combat

Whiel the website didn't seem to definitely say, this appears to be a free expansion to F.E.A.R., not a standalone, in which case it shouldn't be listed. Does anyone know for sure? Ace of Sevens 21:34, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

It's free, I tried it and it runs perfectly free of charge, should be listen on this list now. [Sassan]

I added it to the list, but it could use some more info and a picture. Cpuwhiz11 01:20, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Broken Link to Sierra Starseige Tribes download

this link is broken...Dylan Mather 16:17, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Links Fixed

I fixed the link by removing the sierra links and puting in a fileplanet one. Thanks for the spot Dylan Mather. Cpuwhiz11 00:19, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is the anoucement good enough to add urban terror to the list

or should we wait too add it? 67.35.191.241 05:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC) Its a Mod, not a standalone game.

"We have successfully created a stand alone client for Urban Terror, using the urbanterror.exe and not requiring gamers to install Quake III Arena. This version has recently been released to the Quality Assurance Team and is undergoing testing. Urban Terror is still a mod and will be fully compatible with both Quake III Arena and our stand alone, urbanterror.exe." next time know what your talking about before you say something. User:Deuxhero 67.35.191.241 19:40, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] warrock

can the game warrock be added to this list?

[edit] D-Day: Normandy

D-Day: Normandy seems to require a FilePlanet subscription so you'll have to pay to be able to download it. Is it still free then? // Liftarn 12:52, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Singleplayer / Multiplayer

I think we need to make it clear which games are singleplayer or multiplayer. "War Rock" was the game that bothered me the most, because even on its own page it didn't state this. I dont know enough about the field to fill in these gaps myself -- all I know is that I dont like multiplayer shooters so dont want to bother downloading them. Robinoke 17:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] savage

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savage:_The_Battle_for_Newerth

this should be on the list as it was made free after initial release date.

[edit] allegiance?

Should Allegiance be here? It's a space sime but it's first person.