Talk:List of football (soccer) stadiums by capacity
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Good source of (perhaps uotdated?) information on stadiums: World Stadiums. -Mariano 14:16, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Why is Stanley Park Stadium (new Liverpool stadium) listed? I think it should be removed from the list because they haven't even started building it. The stadium is still in the planning stages and may not even be built.
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- Feel free to make the change. :) --Sebastian Kessel Talk 02:02, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
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- It is unupdated.--J3wishVulcan 00:50, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
I realize I will probably get slammed for this but what is called football in this article in the US Canada and I believe OZ is called soccer. Should the title be perhaps football/soccer or football(soccer) or association football stadiums by capacity. Smith03 19:47, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Latin plural
Shouldn't the title actually be List of football stadia by capacity? Autiger 22:10, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
- Both "stadia" and "stadiums" are acceptable plurals of "stadium", although I would use "stadia" myself. Rje 01:56, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Largest stadium
Which is larger: Maracanã in Brazil or Salt Lake in India? The Maracanã used to hold 103K but this is now less with all seater events. The Indian stadium seems to hold 120K with all seater. Which is right?
- Also, Estadio Azteca is listed as being larger than Maracanã. This section needs updating.--Yukata Ninja 21:26, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
- Estadio Azteca should be the biggest stadium. Salt Lake Stadium doesn't count, because it's not only used for football. The biggest stadium where football can be played is May Day stadium in North Korea (150000 all-seater)
[edit] Wembley
Is wembley still opening in 2006?
Nope, 2007 now. Jameswilson 02:00, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Why aren't American Football Stadiums included?
It doesn't make much sense to not include all football stadiums in the US, especially because Soccer Specific Stadiums is something of a misnomer, as American football can be played in them just as easily as the international variety.
- Then you should add Canadian Football too.
- And Gaelic Athletic Association stadia in Ireland. Stadia like St. Tiernach's in Clones hold 36,000 people... far more than Oriel Park.
It's an odd list, it should be as the title suggests - football stadiums, not just soccer. Most of the Australian grounds only have a minor or recent connection to soccer. --Angry mob mulls options 16:49, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
see my question at the top of the pageSmith03 21:05, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
- Approve page move. I think this is a good idea and should stop some confusion. If other sports want similar lists, similar to the List of Test cricket grounds, they can be made as well. In addition, there is the main List of stadiums list. Patken4 21:16, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
- Approve The other thing is, calling Telstra and the MCG etc. soccer stadiums is a bit of a stretch, sure there is the occasional game there, but they are mainly rugby league and Australian rules venues. --Angry mob mulls options 07:01, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Camp Nou and Bernabeu
that stadium in Barcelona have a capacity of 98.787, as is wrote on the official site of the Barcelona F.C. http://www.fcbarcelona.com/cat/historia/historia/campnou1.shtml The capacity that was reported here (115.000) was the old one, before the new UEFA and FIFA laws.
the Santiago Bernabeu have 75.145 seats, as it's wrote on the main site of the Real Madrid.
[edit] City
Shouldn't cities be listed? Every stdium I see I wonder, where is it? And I'd have to click on the stadium. I'd consider it essential information really.
[edit] Move (again)?
"football (soccer)" makes me cringe. How about List of association football stadiums by capacity? Isopropyl 22:01, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- It should be just the unambiguous soccer, however soccer fans for some inexplicable reason think they have sole rights to the word, and arguing them down to football (soccer) is as far as it got. Which now appears to be the de facto standard --Angry mob mulls options 14:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
- Are there any specific objections to using association football? That one's unambiguous. Isopropyl 03:55, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
- From me, no. But you'll find football (soccer) is the most commonly used label, and the name of the soccer article itself (speaking of which, you can read the many arguments about the name here) --Angry mob mulls options 08:14, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
- This article should be moved to List of football stadiums by capacity, as it is not just soccer stadiums. In fact i would have to say there are more stadiums there for sports other than soccer like, football (AFL).
- Are there any specific objections to using association football? That one's unambiguous. Isopropyl 03:55, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Let's just leave it be. Isopropyl 04:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
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- "football (soccer)" makes me cringe as well. Fully support a move to List of association football stadiums by capacity Tancred 17:59, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Clubs
As much as I love the AFL, shouldn't we only be listing football (soccer) clubs, and not others? If we are to include the AFL clubs (the only non-soccer clubs I can find on the list) we are going to have to add in the other non-soccer clubs as appropriate. Also regarding Australia, could any stadium be said to be the national team's home? They have played matches at the MCG, Telstra Stadium, Telstra Dome, Aussie Stadium, and maybe others (plus they were scheduled to play at Adelaide Oval, before the Lebanon thing) --Xyzzyva 12:18, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- (the only non-soccer clubs I can find on the list) Not sure what you mean by this, I see 9 NRL clubs, and 3 S14. But looking at the list, the first venue that could realistically called a soccer stadium is Central Coast Stadium (and that was developed for Norths originally). There's no senior soccer played at Canberra Stadium, hasn't been for yonks. So most of don't have soccer clubs using them, so we're left with listing the teams that are tenants --Angry mob mulls options 19:45, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
- Very true, I wasn't paying much attention! But where are we drawing the line about whether something is a soccer stadium or a stadium for something else? In the US section, only "soccer-specific stadiums" are being listed, while in the Australia section anything that could possibly hold soccer is listed. IMO, the MCG is no more (and quite a bit less) a soccer stadium than Arrowhead, RFK, etc. Why has it been decided to exclude those stadiums primarily used for the NFL or MLB? There may be other examples of this inconsistency through the list, but I only really know American and Australian sports, and those seem the two most likely to have non-soccer stadiums in the first place. --Xyzzyva 02:02, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- To me, I would only list stadiums where there is primary tenant that plays soccer (such as Giants Stadium or RFK) or stadiums that are the main venues for national teams (such as Telestra Stadium). I know Telestra does not host all of Australia's games, but it does seem to host big ones (witness the WC qualifier against Uruguay). I'm not sure about the MCG or others on the Australia list. If we were to list all stadiums that could host soccer games, there would literally be hundreds from the US alone (with all the pro and college football stadium out there). I wouldn't have a big problem with those stadiums that have either hosted soccer clubs as a primary tenant in the past (such as Soldier Field or the Cotton Bowl) or those that have hosted big matches in the past (such as the Rose Bowl). The US list would be longer, however.Patken4 01:53, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- Maybe, since this is a list by capacity, we could provide a threshold. One proposal: we include all stadiums with more than 30/40/50 thousand seats and the 10/15/20 largest in a country, whichever is more inclusive. Alternatively: how about including stadiums used for each country's highest football (soccer) league, plus those used for their national team (and maybe only those that have been used in the past 1/2/3 years). The difficulty with this whole list is that consistency is hard to maintain in such a diverse world. The more I think about it, the more I like the second proposal of mine, as it's similar to yours, Patken. But we Americans and Australians sure do make this endeavor difficult. Perhaps we should either go for soccer or give it up altogether, not do this halfway thing (because the structure of international sports should be dictated by Wikipedia pages!) :-) --Xyzzyva 04:01, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- Well. I've been bold and done option 2, for Oz anyway --Angry mob mulls options 06:54, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- Maybe, since this is a list by capacity, we could provide a threshold. One proposal: we include all stadiums with more than 30/40/50 thousand seats and the 10/15/20 largest in a country, whichever is more inclusive. Alternatively: how about including stadiums used for each country's highest football (soccer) league, plus those used for their national team (and maybe only those that have been used in the past 1/2/3 years). The difficulty with this whole list is that consistency is hard to maintain in such a diverse world. The more I think about it, the more I like the second proposal of mine, as it's similar to yours, Patken. But we Americans and Australians sure do make this endeavor difficult. Perhaps we should either go for soccer or give it up altogether, not do this halfway thing (because the structure of international sports should be dictated by Wikipedia pages!) :-) --Xyzzyva 04:01, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- To me, I would only list stadiums where there is primary tenant that plays soccer (such as Giants Stadium or RFK) or stadiums that are the main venues for national teams (such as Telestra Stadium). I know Telestra does not host all of Australia's games, but it does seem to host big ones (witness the WC qualifier against Uruguay). I'm not sure about the MCG or others on the Australia list. If we were to list all stadiums that could host soccer games, there would literally be hundreds from the US alone (with all the pro and college football stadium out there). I wouldn't have a big problem with those stadiums that have either hosted soccer clubs as a primary tenant in the past (such as Soldier Field or the Cotton Bowl) or those that have hosted big matches in the past (such as the Rose Bowl). The US list would be longer, however.Patken4 01:53, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- Very true, I wasn't paying much attention! But where are we drawing the line about whether something is a soccer stadium or a stadium for something else? In the US section, only "soccer-specific stadiums" are being listed, while in the Australia section anything that could possibly hold soccer is listed. IMO, the MCG is no more (and quite a bit less) a soccer stadium than Arrowhead, RFK, etc. Why has it been decided to exclude those stadiums primarily used for the NFL or MLB? There may be other examples of this inconsistency through the list, but I only really know American and Australian sports, and those seem the two most likely to have non-soccer stadiums in the first place. --Xyzzyva 02:02, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Disputed
Of the top 4 stadiums capacity listed in this articial is not consitant with their wiki articla let alone the rest of the net (Gnevin 14:38, 11 November 2006 (UTC))
- Looks like User:Azteca12d made some wholesale changes to the capacities of the various stadiums. Before his changes, the capacites were much closer to what is in the articles and elsewhere on the net. I can see differences of a few thousand being acceptable because different sources will have those same differences. I don't know if they listed the stadiums capacities that were the historical capacity (for instance, the Maracana did hold about 200,000 at one point, but doesn't anymore). If you want, you can leave a message on Azteca12d's talk page to see where they got their information from. Patken4 16:32, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
- Should the capacity be reversed back then? --Manop - TH 00:13, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
