Talk:List of film remakes

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[edit] List the original first

Despite the emphasis on the remake rather than the remade, it would be more elegant to list the source first. A film can have several remakes, and there are also films that may or may not be remakes of the original film (the recent Solaris) and different degrees of remaking (Psycho vs. Die xue shuang xiong). It seems you have more options for updating this list were it the other way around.

(Also: here [1] is a bunch of remakes.)

Jeff Fries 03:41, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

As I see it, moving this list away from the Remake article doesn't solve the problem. For details, see Talk:Remake. In short, the problem with this page is that it has a random list of films which does not prove or illustrate anything except the bare fact that remakes exist. Adding individual films to the list makes it longer but by no means better.

As a solution I suggest two things: (a) finding several categories of remakes (with the inherent danger of being POV) and (b) presenting the new list(s) in the form of a table. <KF> 14:26, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Works for me. Busy at work, but will think on remake categories. jengod 20:18, Feb 18, 2004 (UTC)

Can we please exclude films adapted from other sources here? The two "Solaris" movies, for example, are not an original and a remake - they're both original interpretations of the novel by Stanslaw Lem. --Peter Farago 05:31, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I suppose the films on the list could be separated into two categories: those which are direct remakes of a previous film, and those which are not "officially" remakes, but people refer to them as such anyway. Extraordinary Machine 22:58, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
Peter, you're splitting hairs. Roger Ebert, the famous American film critic has no problem calling the new Solaris a remake of the old:
To some extent her being is limited by how much Kelvin knows about her, since Solaris cannot know more than Kelvin does; this theme is made clearer in Steven Soderbergh and George Clooney's 2002 remake of the film. [2]
I don't think you'll make much headway trying to subdivide this list; if this were a vote, I'd say "leave well enough alone".
Atlant 22:18, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] What a mess this is!

I don't generally make it a habit of trashing the work of others. Having said that, this thing is potentially useful but as it stands now, it's a nightmare. Come on, folks, this is on computers; "little" things matter. For example, it's The Cabinet of Dr Caligari, not Cabinet of Dr Caligari, The Creature from the Black Lagoon, not Creature from the Black Lagoon. Also, in English all significant words in a title are capitalized, not just the first two like in French, but conjunctions and prepositions are not capitalized. The failure to adhere to this is one of the main reasons that there are so many redlinks; for something to link properly, it has to link to the exact title unless someone has created a redirect. The markup was/is atrocious, also. I've straightened out (somewhat) "A", "B", and "C", but don't have all the time required to the rest of the alphabet, and may not for a while. It would be nice for somebody to see the value potential here and go on with what I've started. Rlquall 03:10, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Agreed! I've been trying to tidy some of this up. I'll remove anything that currently doesn't have a Wikipedia entry (either as the original film, or the remake version). Lugnuts 15:16, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
All updated. Lugnuts 12:46, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Grammar and spelling aside, why are there so many entries for TV shows "remade" as movies? According to the definitions in the second paragraph of Remake, these are interpretations, not remakes. For those, there is a separate list: List of TV shows made into films. They really don't seem to belong here. HalJor 19:10, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Didn't realise there was a page for them, HalJor. I've added the See Also at the bottom of the page and I'll remove the TV entries. Lugnuts 09:04, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Are some of these TRULY remakes?

Wiki's remake page indicates that a film remake uses another film as its source material, there are a large number of entries that are based on previously adapted material. Among a very long list...300, Zodiac (both of which I removed), Emma, The Bourne Identity, Casino Royale...are these worthy of inclusion? Me, I say no. --Toquinha 14:15, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed Items

I made a point of removing 300 and Zodiac as those films are not remakes, but they are based on the same non-film material. For example, in the case of the recent 300 film by Zack Snider, it's based on the Frank Miller graphic novel.--Toquinha 14:07, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disappearing While Editing

All The C's have gone down to the D section. How do I put them back in their rightful place?!?

It appears AlbertSM is doing a bunch of editing and may have made a typo (which he has now fixed); the "C"s are back!
Atlant 16:33, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Split article

Similar to the List of notable cover versions page, I've split this into half, as it's getting quite big (80k+ when editing the whole page). User:Lugnuts 19:04 12/09/2006

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