Talk:List of famous dogs
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I want to have a list of famous dog people such as Emily Carr, Martha Stewart, possibly breeders but even just those famous for their love of dogs. What do you think? Can it fit in this category? dan
Should we edit this to add in Ong Fatt, the six-legged dog? He has gotten quite a lot of fame lately.
Thanks, I was trying to find Checkers :) ~ender
What is a historical dog ? Dogs that are no more and moved into history ? How are George Bush's dogs "historical" dogs ? Jay 06:52, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)
- It's noticeable that most of the dogs on this list are simply the pets of various American presidents. I think we could do better. Deb 21:21, 27 Nov 2003 (UTC)
Please have a look at the title-change discussion at Talk:List_of_historical_animals#Historical or Historic ?. Not many seem to have that page in their watchlist. Jay 21:08, 14 Jan 2004 (UTC)
I think I like the subdivisions that were just created. I'm going to add "Famous" to the subheads, though, because there's a distinction between famous dogs of presidents and merely dogs that presidents owned. E.g., Checkers is way for sure howzah famous. And lots of people have heard of Roosevelt's Fala (I don't know why, that was a long time ago). But it seems useful to keep this list distinguished from List of U.S. Presidential pets which doesn't imply that all of the animals on that list are famous. If I'm making sense while sleep deprived... Elf | Talk 05:45, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I plan to remove the word "historical" from the article name. See Talk:List_of_historical_animals for further discussion. Jay 08:39, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- I saw that discussion and I'm not sure that I agree with it unless we replace the adjective with another one, such as "List of famous dogs". "List of dogs" is just wayyyy too general, and loses focus. Elf | Talk 14:52, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
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- Wikipedia:Lists_(stand-alone_lists)#Naming_conventions says no adjectives like "famous", "noted", "important", etc are to be used. The page also uses this page as an example citing the word "historic", but I plan to remove that and thats what this discussion is about. Jay 15:37, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
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- It also says "Lists that are too general or too broad in scope have little value." So once this becomes "list of dogs", what's to stop it from containing fictional dogs, mythical dogs, dog names that are popular but don't apply to any particular dog, and so on? Somehow we need to distinguish this as *real* dogs with some fame to them. I guess we could put a paragraph at the top that says "this is a list of dogs who actually existed and are well-known for some reason" but it seems that the title should reflect that as well, no? If there's a list of fictional dogs, seems there ought to be its counterpart. I could ake this discussion back over to that list if you think I really ought to-- Elf | Talk 16:14, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
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- It is good that you're open to this discussion. Firstly, to clarify, I'm ok with the list of fictional dogs list because its a specific category, and I'm not talking of merging that with this page. Secondly I'm ok with not one, but plenty of counterparts for list of fictional dogs. My point of discussion is that "historical" is not a valid category. "mythical dogs", "dog names that are popular but don't apply to any particular dog" are ok. Please continue this discussion at Talk:List of fictional animals if applicable. Jay 16:42, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
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- No, no, I want an edit war and then get a bunch of people pissed off! ... Oh, all right, I'll go quietly to the other discussion. And I thought I was just quietly hiding in the random-dog-pages area where no one else ever went so I didn't *have* to discuss anything. ;-) ... Elf | Talk 16:45, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
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hehe, I've been trying to find out what is a "historical" dog since 14 Nov (see top of page). Jay 16:50, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Hachiko
I've added an English translation (with some expansion) of the Japanese page on Hachiko -- comments welcome. adamrice 17:11, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Cool! Looks pretty good. I'm not familiar with "filaria", though; possible there's another spelling? Elf | Talk 17:49, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Well, filaria is a word in my English dictionary, and it's what my J-E dictionary gave for the word used in the source. On closer reading, "filaria" is the name of the parasite, and "filariasis" is the name of the affliction with same. There may be a more colloquial term, but I haven't found it. adamrice 19:15, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- The Hachiko article is simply wonderful BTW. I saw the japanese film about Hachicko about 8 years ago and cried my ever-lovin' eyes out at the end. It features a scene of Hatchiko dying in the snow from exposure and then at the moment of death seeing the professor again and running to jump into the professors arms, reunited at long last. Man, did I bawl. Nothing like a loyal dog story to turn on thre fuacets, eh?Lisapollison 13:48, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
