Talk:List of animal rights groups
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This page is intended to replace the animal rights list of List of animal welfare and animal rights groups. There seems to be a consensus on the talk page of that article that merging the two pages was a mistake, and I agree. The two kinds of groups are different, disagree (often publicly) on major issues of animal protection, and for the most part are easily classified. So, I will try to do this classification.
On another note, I would argue that classifying these groups by whether or not they support or use violence against people is rather shamelessly POV, especially given the fact that of the groups listed as such on the other page, only two could reasonably be argued to even condone violence against humans (SHAC and JD, although SHAC is quite a stretch and the JD has probably ceased to exist), while the others (ALF, BoM, HSA, and PETA) are officially and unequivocally against violence. To say otherwise is, in my humble opinion, ludicrous. Therefore, I intend not to employ the classification on this page. I welcome discussion, though.
A more reasonable classification in my mind is "Above ground" and "Below ground", since it not really open to interpretation (except for SHAC, which I'm sure we can all agree is hard to classify in many ways), and is actually a useful, informative distinction, rather than one made solely to discredit the groups listed in the mind of the reader.
---SpaceMoose 11:32, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I'm not sure it's correct to classify SHAC, SPEAK, and the HSA as leaderless resistance movements. They very clearly have a centralised structure: addresses, phone numbers, spokespersons, newsletters, etc. It's true that sometimes people will independently do things towards the same goal as their campaigns, but this could be true of any organisation. Maybe you could say, for example, the overall campaign against Huntingdon Life Sciences follows a leaderless resistance model, but not SHAC itself. Arfan2006 17:15, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
- Shac is leaderless, as it doesn't have a leader or membership. There is a campaign office with a selection of volunteers who help to keep the site running, be a press office and relay information from meetings of people who decide what to do under the 'shac' banner. This is the same for the other 2 also. Take a look at their articles and you will see a better explanation I believe.-Localzuk (talk) 18:42, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
