Talk:List of Welsh people

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Saint Patrick: Welsh or Scottish? It's a bit inappropriate to use either term really. Saint Patrick lived before the Scots and English invaded Britain. So the use of the words Scotland and England in the St Patrick article is inappropriate. At that time it was just Britain. So St Patrick is best described as British in my opinion. -- Derek Ross

What about Catherine Zeta-Jones? -- Paul Klenk

Reverted the last edit by 63.92.156.234 -- Bob Hope was not Welsh, he was born in London. The other changes he made were to remove disambiguations from common names' piped links. -- Arwel 11:17, 28 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Surely this should be entitled "List of famous Welsh people". If it's just a list of Welsh people, I demand to be on it!!!

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[edit] Jesse T Williams

Who exactly is this person and what is the nature of his Welsh connections? Soccer or American football? Flapdragon 17:29, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Jesse T Williams played for Middlesbrough in the 30's or 40's.

According to an entry on a guestbook[1] (about all I could find on Google) it was 1924-1927. Perhaps not Wales's most famous son. Flapdragon 16:14, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

As notable as many on the list.

[edit] Colin Jackson

Colin Jackson (born 1967), star hurdler. I cannot remember Jackson hurdling any stars, just ordinary hurdles. Quite a feat if we are talking celestial bodies here!!! Or maybe he was jumping over other famous people? Or perhaps star shaped hurdles? Do we have a reference? Alun 16:45, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bertrand Russell

Bertrand Russell now has two entries on this page, one under scientists and one under philosphers. Any opinion as to whether one of the entries should be removed? Nigel45 11:23, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] David Lloyd George

Even if he was born in England, he should be in this list. He was a Welshman!

[edit] Sir Emyr Jones-Parry

British Diplomat, currently UK Ambassador to the UN? This might require a new category.

"Other notables". -- Arwel (talk) 14:28, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dafydd Roberts rugby player

Does anyone have any details for this person? Would seem to be one for deletion from this page.

Nigel45 22:01, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Page

I was just curious as to why Jimmy Page is on the list, since his profile says he was born and raised in England.

  • Seems like one to remove. Nigel45 09:01, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Page

Does anybody know the person(s) responsible for putting Jimmy Page's name on the list? If so, please let me know soon so I can contact them.

[edit] Red links

Jack O'Lantern has taken to deleting red-linked people from this list on the grounds that "without articles, there's no way for the Wiki community to judge whether or not these people are notable. Besides, there were only something like 5-10 names". I notice from his user page that Jack is a 19 or 20 year old American, therefore may not have heard of these people, but that's no grounds for deleting links which might inspire people to write new articles - indeed, when I first came to Wikipedia 3½ years ago red links were positively encouraged to generate new entries, and I'm unaware of any policy changes since then. The people in question are:

OK, so some of these people may not be very famous, but the majority of them are. I say restore the red links. -- Arwel (talk) 19:12, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, red links don't really help the reader, do they? All they see is a name and no way (within Wikipedia) to get any more info on the person. Also, it's hard to figure out who is notable because the person has no Wiki entry and there is no way for the Wiki community to decide if they are notable or not. A constant argument is that red links should be there because they encourage people to write articles about them. The flip-side of it - not having red links encourages someone to write the article, so the person can be included in the list!:) But since the red linked don't have a Wikipedia entry, how do we know that they more notable then other Welsh who are not included? Mad Jack 19:16, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
As for the individual people, Rachel Preece is a really minor actress whose article may well be deleted if created, not sure. A bunch of Google matches for various different Roger Mosses. A bunch of various Seth Joshuas on Google. Same for Brian Flowers. As for "Emyr Parry-Jones", he only has 4 pages worth of Google matches! See, the majority of these are really "iffy" and it's hard to figure out how notable they are. Mad Jack 19:22, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Griff Rhys Jones

Griff Rhys Jones is surely as famous a comedian / actor as any Welshman, born Cardiff. 88.107.66.93 23:45, 28 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Welsh Nobles

Would it be feasable to create a list of Welsh Nobles? What I mean is a current list of Welsh titles and their current holders?Drachenfyre 06:30, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

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