Talk:List of Weeds episodes

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Contents 1 Fair use images removed 2 Theme song? 2.1 Theme song listings 3 Screenshots 4 Second Season Episodes 5 Plot synopses

[edit] Fair use images removed

Wikipedia's policy in fair use doesn't allow for the use of promotional images unless accompanied by analysis or critical commentary on the content of the image. That was not the case in this article, so all such images have been removed. __meco 19:27, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand what you mean at all. All images were provided with a fair use rational (e.g. Image:Weeds ep101.jpg), following the example of other lists such as List of Stargate SG-1 episodes and List of Entourage episodes. Also, Wikipedia's policy is both unclear and being debated here. The result of the debate has been no consensus, as such, I'm inclined to re-add the images. Any thoughts? --MZMcBride 19:48, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Having not heard from you, I re-added the images, however I did not re-add the placeholders. Please leave any further comments below. Thanks. --MZMcBride 04:18, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Theme song?

Considering this season's trend of having the theme song performed by different artists for each episode, maybe this could be reflected in a new column ("Opener performed by:"?) starting in Season 2's episode guide? As a casual fan of the show, this is much more useful info to me than the directors' names. -- H·G (^words/_works) 01:04, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

My only concern is that with six columns already, a seventh will make the page too crowded. Perhaps a separate table could be created, or it could be added under the synopsis, or perhaps it could be added on the Weeds page? Any thoughts? --MZMcBride 00:14, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm gonna start making episode pages this week, so maybe I should put it there in an infobox? Daydream believer2 06:52, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Adding the performer of the theme song to the individual articles is a great idea. It could probably go under a trivia section, but an infobox would also work. --MZMcBride 00:49, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

I've put the theme song performer under the trivia section for each episode page. Daydream believer2 04:45, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Theme song listings

Heya, I sorta thought the agreement was to put the name of each week's theme song singer on to the episode's page itself, under the Trivia section. However, its now been put on this episode page as well. I have no problem with this, but I just thought we should come to a consensus about which is more efficient. Daydream believer2 04:58, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I was under that impression as well. I don't think who sang the opening song is important enough to warrant inclusion on this page, it seems a little too trivial. But, having the info in the infobox on the individual episode pages seems to work well. --MZMcBride 02:15, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

My fault, I did that without looking here first. (I should know better) Having given my mea culpa, I think I did it in a way that does not distract from the existing information, and I think having all the artist links here on this one page is worth the extra sentence. With the latest artist being from Quebec, it is also pretty clear that there is a thematic link between the episode and the artist. —MJBurrage • TALK • 20:05, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I was working on the page, and after checked my watchlist to discover the most recent comment (above). I've removed the info from this page because I thought that was the consensus. I'm voting to not have the info on this page because I don't think it's pertinent to the synopsis of each episode. Forgive me if I'm missing something obvious, but I don't understand the Quebec-most recent episode link (mentioned above). Any thoughts? --MZMcBride 20:43, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Her fake ID is Lacy LaPlante from Quebec. LaPlante is French for "the plant". "Little Boxes" was sung in French by singers from Quebec.

I still think that someone looking at the episode list, might want to see listed the musical artists (especially if they continue to fit themes from the episode). I also did not think it looked out of place in the write-ups. In fact, the multiple artists, was the reason I looked at this list in the first place.

As for Daydream's comment, why cant the artists be listed here and on the detailed pages for each episode?

—MJBurrage • TALK • 04:25, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Also, by removing the information from this page, it becomes unavailable until someone creates a seperate episode page.—MJBurrage • TALK • 15:53, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Screenshots

Why do almost none of the episode screenshots feature Nancy, the main character of the show, and many of them feature Celia instead? The plots featuring Celia tend to be secondary, or even tertiary, plots, and so it seems to me they should probably not be the main episode screenshots featured on this page. --Gpollock 07:53, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

The screenshots were taken from the Showtime website (e.g. here). When selecting which of the three provided to use, I tried to show all the main characters somewhere in the list of episodes. Many episodes, ironically, don't have Nancy as a choice for a screenshot. To remedy this, a new version of the screenshot could be uploaded, but where those would come from is hard to answer. If you can find (or make) better screenshots, feel free to upload the newer version over mine. --MZMcBride 00:54, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

I think the screenshots are fine. It's nice to have a wide range of characters rather than just focussing on Nancy. Is anyone able to get screenshots for season 2? I've been making the episode pages but they look a little dry without it. Daydream believer2 04:45, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Done. --MZMcBride 20:01, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Second Season Episodes

Could someone create detailed articles for the second season episodes like there are for the first season?

These are being done, and I will continue to do these in the near future. Its just easier to make detailed articles, particularly with regard to trivia, once more of the season has elapsed. Daydream believer2 17:07, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plot synopses

Please do not add plot synopses for future episodes, it compromises the integrity of the pages, and is seen as very uncouth. I'm not sure how much clearer I can make this, as there are clear messages in placeholders, and I've now added hidden messages. Thanks. --MZMcBride 20:11, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Thr question of plots being posted before episodes airing seems to have been a constant battle on this page (notably, a battle that has User:MZMcBride as its most active fighter). So, it begs the question... well, why can't people add synopses before the episode airs? I'm not sure what it is about adding information to a page that's uncouth, or that comprimises integrity. There's a very clear spoiler warning on the page, so anyone who has the plot spoiled for them can only blame themselves for reading it. And I'm guessing the information is probably accurate, as it's probably coming from the pre-air torrents of episodes that have been appearing online. So, as long as information is accurate, why not post it if we have it? --Gpollock 21:13, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

If most people haven't seen an episode, and would have no opportunity to see an episode, I find it to be unfair to them if the synopses are added for a future episode. While some people illegally download pre-airs, the large majority of people will view the show on or after the official air date. If someone reads this page, I see it as an entirely different type of spoiler to tell information that isn't "public." Also, there is somewhat of a verifiability issue. Other pages, like the List of Lost episodes and the List of House episodes do not display information about future episodes, and I use those as a guide. It would be the same as telling unknown plot details to a future book (e.g. Harry Potter 7). I think it's only fair to add the info once it's in the public sphere and everyone's had a fighting chance to view the media first, before having a future plot detail revealed. Hope this clarifies. Thanks. --MZMcBride 01:14, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't think spoiling the plot for people who haven't seen the episode is an issue (just don't read the synopsis if you don't want to!), but it seems verifiability is a bigger problem. This was discussed on the Lost episode list talk page. They ended up voting on the issue and deciding to only include information on future episodes from official sources. -- bethenco 00:12, 1 November 2006 (UTC)