Talk:List of View Askewniverse motifs

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[edit] New Article Explanation

I took this off of the View Askewniverse page because that way it can be more complete without people saying it wasn't essential to the article. I figured it could follow the following format, mostly chronological.

Etc., etc. For right now its just copied over but if I get a chance I'll go through and do it myself. --Torourkeus 17:38, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moved from View Askewniverse

--Torourkeus 22:45, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A note on motifs (structure)

When I revised this section, my idea was to keep it to a few examples of each, rather than listing every single reference to Star Wars, Jaws, hockey, etc. After several additions, I've again edited down some of the entries, as this seems to be the main thing that bogs down the entry (and primary source of "incoherent lists" -- among other things, people have added DVD deleted scenes and the "37" jersey in Mallrats (on which the number is never clearly seen on screen).

Is there some overarching need for Wikipedia to have a list of all VA references, particularly since there's zero chance such a list would ever be complete and comprehensive? - Hedgey42 06:34, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

(Added later: And are hockey, Star Wars, Jaws and Degrassi necessarily Askewniverse motifs, or just director's trademarks? - Hedgey42 07:05, 8 February 2006 (UTC))

  • I would suggest maybe separating "View Askewniverse Motifs" into a new article. I'd also suggest that hockey, Star Wars, Jaws, and Degrassi are directors trademarks, as well as motifs. While in Clerks references seemed to be for his own amusement, in some of the later movies references have been purposely thrown in as you can hear on any of the DVD commentaries. Also I'd suggest the motif section be more succinct. Meaning, it follows the following format:
  • In Clerks ...
  • In Mallrats ...
  • Etc.
rather than the mention of the movie be grammatically and semantically random. It may actually reduce the number of bullet points because there can be one for each movie rather than one for each time a motif occurs. --Torourkeus 13:30, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DVD Extras

Tell me what you guys think, but for now I moved the DVD extras as an underbullet for the actual movie. It doesn't seem right to have it as a separate media when it's actually the same movie. Here I'm talking about Clerks X. See the Star Wars Section --Torourkeus 20:09, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Should smoking be added to the motifs?

  • i don't think so. I can't think of a notable reference to suggest it is a motif. Jay and Silent Bob smoke but I can't think of any other characters that do. The only other reference involves Dante and Randal at the quick stop in both Clerks and Jay & Silent Bob Strike back. In Dogma, it almost seems like the issue's avoided to some degree: i'd imagine the mooby empire could have much easier been done to a cigarette company or something but it wasn't.--Torourkeus 13:34, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Star Wars Motif

Randal mentions carbonite when in jail in Clerks ii. Han Solo was frozen in carbonite. Somebody please elaborate on this and add it to the main page when ready.

Well should it?--Greasysteve13 06:37, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

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