Talk:List of Vietnam War veterans

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Page moved - read the naming conventions. --Jiang 10:39, 13 May 2004 (UTC)

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(Note: I am limiting this to people who have entries on Wikipedia, and are identified within their biographies as veterans of this conflict. If someone notable who is a known Vietnam veteran isn't in this list, check and see if they have an article first, and if that biography indicates their veteran status (or correct if needed) before adding them to the list. If this list becomes loaded with dead links, or uncorroborated veterans, it may be yanked)

[edit] Al Hubbard

http://www.vvaw.org/veteran/article/?id=407

Did one of VVAW's leaders lie about his military service in 1971?

Al Hubbard was an important leader in Vietnam Veterans Against the War. Hubbard had been an Air Force enlisted man who actually served. He felt that as a black man, with racism what it is in this country, he had to portray himself as an officer in order to get any respect (Overend, 589; Stacewicz, 293). This was wrong on his part, but he was a good man, and he worked hard for VVAW. VVAW forgave him for lying, but he shouldn't have done it. This one fact doesn't detract from the tens of thousands in VVAW who did not lie about their service and experiences. Hubbard's exposure (June 1971) came very shortly after Dewey Canyon III and shows how aggressively the Nixon administration scrutinized every member of VVAW. In the end, the Nixon's plumbers exposed only one guy whose records show that he actually served, more than any Chickenhawk in the current administration.

TDC 19:38, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)

Hubbard's deception about his rank is well documented. So is the fact that, as you noted above, "Hubbard had been an Air Force enlisted man who actually served." Now please refer to the definition of a Vietnam Veteran and explain to me exactly what you are taking issue with please. -Rob—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 165.247.214.73 (talk • contribs) 19:48, 29 October 2004.

Hubbard was in the air force, that is why they can say "he served" but was never in Vietnam. [1], [2]. TDC 19:51, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)

Your first citation doesn't say he was "never in Vietnam." Your second citation states, "Despite that, Defense Department officials stressed it was still possible Hubbard could have served in Vietnam..." What exactly are you trying to say here? Also, did you review the definition of a Vietnam Veteran located at Vietnam Veteran?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 165.247.214.73 (talk • contribs) 20:09, 29 October 2004.

Well, here is another more explicit source [3]. Hubbard was never in Vietnam. TDC 20:18, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)

Your latest source still doesn't refute the Defense Department official's statement.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 165.247.205.159 (talk • contribs) 20:22, 29 October 2004.

the national review article was written in 1971, alot more has come to the surface since then. TDC 20:27, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)