Talk:List of UFC champions

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Contents 1 Page Name 2 Reorganziation 3 Official 4 Title defenses? 5 Missing Tournaments? 6 Like the new layout?

[edit] Page Name

I like the creation of this page but I think it should be called List of UFC champions. This is the naming format used for the boxing titles. MLA 15:31, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, you sound correct.Could you give me time to think about it because if the name of this article was changed I also would have to change the names of lists which I had made in Japanese wikipedia.I have already made the lists of title holders of some MMA and boxing organizations. Oh my buddah!

• eg.
  • Transition of IBF world title in Japanese
  • Transition of Shooto world title in Japanese
  • Transition of Pancrase title in Japanese

Yappakoredesho 02:30, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Instead of changing names in the Japanese version, could you not just use redirects? MLA 21:09, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Redirects?Which one?Yappakoredesho 11:30, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

The page still has the same title. Could you make the move that we discussed. MLA 15:55, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

It was changed. Thanks.--Yappakoredesho 22:51, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reorganziation

In the coming days, I'll be changing the page so there is a distinction between the weight classes pre-UFC 31 and post UFC 31. Smoltz 22:26, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Official

• Ken Shamrock was the first UFC World Heavyweight Champion, why are we not listing him? Dan Severn followed Ken thereafter.
  • I think there was something lost in translation when the Superfight championship became the heavyweight title. Or did it? I would guess so, Shamrock claimed he was the first hw champ. I wouldn't object to putting Shamrock in there, although ideally there should be a source for the superfight title becoming the hw title... --hateless 06:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
  • While I don't know how popular the idea might be, it might be interesting to have the super fight list over the heavyweight to illustrate the trasition. Johnkinze 05:17, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Title defenses?

Does "title defense" mean the number of times a champion has successfully defended his title? Or does it mean the number of times a champion has fought, and defeated, an opponent? There is a difference - especially in the case of Matt Hughes. Hughes won his first championship at UFC 34, and defended his belt five times after (Sakurai, Newton, Castillo, Sherk, Trigg). He lost his belt at UFC 46, and regained his belt at UFC 50. Since that time, Hughes has only defended his title one time - against Frank Trigg at UFC 52. Hughes' other fights - Joe Riggs at UFC 56 and Royce Gracie at UFC 60 - were not title defenses. They were not championship matches.

I have changed Hughes' record to fit with my interpretation. A "title defense," in my opinion, should only be reserved for champions that defend their title in a championship bout, and I don't believe the term can be used for non-title bouts. A non-title fight doesn't add championship title defenses to a fighter's record. --Wyldephang 05:43, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Missing Tournaments?

For some reason the Ultimate Ultimates and The Ultimate Fighter winners have been left off. I've added them to what seems the most logical spots to me. Johnkinze 20:47, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Like the new layout?

I for one like it but I had to add a little centering to it, it looks and flows much better now. Johnkinze 05:19, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I prefer the non-centered layout. The centering weakens the grid for me, and my eye jumps around too much going from entry to entry, it looks chaotic with especially with the flags not aligned on a common edge. I think it helps scanning by keeping things justified to a single edge on the left side, especially the name column. The dates and locations are secondary info, they are probably fine being centered however. hateless 05:45, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Glad someone likes what I did (I made it that way). I'm also not a fan of the centered stuff, that's why I made it the way I did.-- FPAtl (holla) 02:18, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

The page has definitely been improved, nice work to all, but I agree that everything in the grids being centered is not good. SubSeven 03:49, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I hate the new layout. It looks messy because of too much information. The section of "Location" and "defenses" should be rejected because they can be added to other articles instead here. See this model:List of WBA world champions Yappakoredesho 09:07, 12 November 2006 (UTC)