Talk:List of U.S. states by date of statehood
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The original 13 existed as states under the Articles of Confederation. To list their predecessors as British colonies is misleading. Otherwise, they were all admitted on July 4, 1776. --Jiang 20:36, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- It just says preceding entity. Do you think the AoC-era colony-states had a different status? If so, I'd love to know so I can do an article about it, otherwise the colonies were the preceding entities of the states. Made note that date is "admitted to union or ratified constitution." jengod 20:40, Mar 5, 2004 (UTC)
Ratifying the Constitution did not change the name of the individual state governments. Under the AofC, each state sovereign and independent ina confederation. They were definately not colonies. They became states when they declared independence, not when they ratified the constitution, in which they ceased to be states in the normal sense of the term. --Jiang 02:37, 6 Mar 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] date for Ohio admission
An anon added "(this is disputed by some)" to the entry for Ohio which says "The date of admission was declared retroactively on August 7, 1953". What precisely is disputed and by whom? There can be no disputing that Congress passed a resolution making such a declaration on that date. The actual date may be disputed, but that is unclear as written. Some citations about who and what would be helpful. older≠wiser 22:57, May 20, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] WP:FLC
Is someone thinking of nominating this at WP:FLC? It could do with some references, but they should be easy to find. Otherwise, it is a very good potential candidate. -- ALoan (Talk) 11:25, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] state map
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dcljr has made several versions of this map. Which of them is better for the article? --Astrokey44 23:21, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
I hate to criticize anyone who has put so much effort into making maps for Wikipedia. I have a *slight* preference for the one on the left.... ClairSamoht 22:45, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- BTW, see also the discussion at commons:Image talk:US states by date of statehood.PNG, which sets out some of the issues involved. - dcljr (talk) 04:17, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Wait! Here's a fourth version I just created:
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- This has gotta be the best one... right? I mean, come on... it's red, white and blue! <g> (Well, okay... red, gray and blue. Again, see the prior discussion for more info.) - dcljr (talk) 05:33, 21 June 2006 (UTC) — I've been bold (again) and substituted my latest version into the article. - dcljr (talk) 05:40, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Graphic - WV and ME
The graphic in the upper right is correct in that it counts West VIrginia as part of Virginia, coloring it in in dark blue when Virginia acceded to statehood, and then just drawing in a border when WV became a state proper. However, Maine is handled incorrectly. It is still colored gray until the point it became a state in its own right, even though prior to that it was a part of the union as part of the state of Massachusetts.
I'm not sure how that could be represented graphically, but it seems silly that such care was taken to represent West Virginia's statehood accurately, but the same has not been done for Maine.--DaveOinSF 23:58, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
- it could be shown with a line joining Maine & Massachusetts, or Maine in a lighter color? Otherwise it would look like Maine was a state from 1788. I am working on a version which has the correct borders based on the territorial growth maps which should have these problems fixed. --Astrokey44 02:44, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
