Talk:List of Stargate SG-1 episodes/Archive 1

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I think I'm going to be bold and remove most of the links on this page. All the links except for "Wormhole X-Treme!" don't actually point to pages about the episodes listed. Instead, they point to articles about the world or phrase after which the episode is named. I think that's unnecessary (or even duplicitous), nor does it conform to the linking formula for other episode lists (e.g. List of Star Trek: Enterprise episodes). If anyone objects please let me know why here.

Acegikmo1 20:04, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be better to make them links to possible episode pages, which is in line with similar pages.--John Lynch 13:51, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I've just added the links back because I've generated a bunch of templated episode pages that I'll insert over time. So far only Wormhole X-Treme! and Spirits_(Stargate_SG-1) have been updated because they already existed. -- Journeyman 06:16, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I have some articles for a few episodes that I am preparing to add once I get them reformatted, similar to what I added to Absolute Power . The episode titles are listed on my user page. Any comments would be welcome. KorbenDirewolf 22:43, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] New FAC

I'm resubmitting for FAC, see if we get anywhere now we've addressed most of the issues as best we can. -- Alfakim --  talk  08:43, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List Formatting

Considering the long list format and seeing how other TV shows have gone about creating the lists I was wondering if converting the information from a list to a table with more information on would be more useful. i.e. The List of Star Trek: Enterprise episodes uses a table which would perhaps be more efficient. Any ideas on this thought and if I were to change it should I change the way Stargate Atlantis episodes and Stargate Infinity episodes are listed as well.

I take it this was said before it was done. I'm going to table-ify the whole list now.--alfakim 15:18, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Please Help Fill Out The Table

If anyone has any ideas for more boxes or whatever, say so and add! For now, please all help by getting 16:9 ratio screenshots for the episodes and sticking them into the pic cells with thumb width of 150px. Discuss that if you want. The longer box beneath is for a one-sentence plot description. each episode should have its own page, so help make those too! see the wikiproject discussion for standard layout.--alfakim 15:18, 19 August 2005 (UTC)


Done all of Season 1. May need checking. Please help out and fill in the pics and synopses on the other seasons. A great source for pics is at stargatefan.com. crop them to 640x360 or other 16:9 ratio if necessary.--alfakim 21:09, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

I don't know a thing about putting screenshots on Wikipedia, but if I can find the time, I can help put the synopses in. bob rulz 21:40, August 19, 2005 (UTC)
I have created a category called Category:Screenshots of Stargate SG-1 which will eventually have screenshots from every episode of the series. What do you guys think? Is there anyway we could do this better? Thanks for the input. --Mattwj2002 02:17, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
Nice work. We can use the category to fill out this table. Link?--alfakim 23:05, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Nice work everyone so far, this is filling out nicely.

I'll have everything done for seasons 6 and 7 in a few days. Framegrabs and synopses. --Klaser 06:46, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Style Guide

Just so it's clear (we can debate this if necessary but i dont think we need to), and to make the page look good and be decent, try to do the following when adding to it:

Pics:

  • All images should use a thumbnail width of 150px. [[Image:Example.jpg|150px]]
  • All images should be in the 16:9 ratio, and cropped if necessary.
All this means is that if your original image is 640px in width, you need to make sure it is also 360px (640/360 = 16/9) in height, so you'll probably need to cut off the top and bottom if it's a screenshot from an early series (later series screenshots are already 16:9).
You can crop images before uploading them in any photoediting program... even MS Paint.
  • Try to give the picture a name that corresponds to the episode, eg [[Image:Children of the Gods (Part 1).jpg|150px]] or [[Image:Message in a Bottle (Stargate SG-1).jpg|150px]]
  • .JPG is probably preferred.

Synopses:

  • Try not to push open the cell; ie: stay below 3 lines of text.
  • Always try to make the synopses as full as possible, and not just intros. This is so that someone could read this article and get a full plot summary of SG-1 without mysterious bits missing (what else is this article for?). So something like "Carter and Daniel get stuck" is bad; "Carter and Daniel get stuck but are rescued by the Asgard" is better.
  • Try to wikify the [[synopses]] as [[much]] as [[possible]]. Someone might be only reading season 8, so they dont want to have to scroll back up to season 1 to get all the links.
  • Try to make the synopses mention anything important in that episode, for instance the creation of the Kull Disruptor.

[edit] Writing The Episode Articles

[edit] Readymade Code to Copy and Paste

Single-part episodes:

{{Infobox Television episode | Title = Episode Title
| Series = [[Stargate SG-1]]
| Season = 1
| Episode = 1
| Airdate = [[Month ##]], [[Year]]
| Production = xxx
| Writer = [[Author]] and [[Author]]
| Director = [[Director]]
| Guests = Actor as [[Character]]<br /> Actor as [[Character]]
| Image = [[Image:Stargate SG-1 Season 8 Title.jpg|300px]]
| Episode list = [[List of Stargate SG-1 episodes|Episode chronology]]
| Prev = [[SG-1 Episode (Stargate SG-1)|SG-1 Episode]]
| Next = [[SG-1 Episode (Stargate SG-1)|SG-1 Episode]]
}}
{{TVep|Episode Title|Stargate SG-1}}
==Plot==
{{sgspoiler|1}}
==Quotes==
==Notes==
* Point 1
* Point 2
{{stargate-stub}}

Two-part single-article episodes:

{{Infobox Television episode | Title = Episode Title
| Series = [[Stargate SG-1]]
| Season = 1
| Episode = 1
| Airdate = [[Month ##]], [[Year]]
| Production = xxx
| Writer = [[Author]] and [[Author]]
| Director = [[Director]]
| Guests = Actor as [[Character]]<br /> Actor as [[Character]]
| Image = [[Image:Stargate SG-1 Season 8 Title.jpg|300px]]
| Episode list = [[List of Stargate SG-1 episodes|Episode chronology]]
| Prev = [[SG-1 Episode (Stargate SG-1)|SG-1 Episode]]
| Next = [[SG-1 Episode (Stargate SG-1)|SG-1 Episode]]
}}
{{TVep|Episode Title|Stargate SG-1|multipart=yes}}
==Plot==
{{sgspoiler|1}}
===Part 1===
===Part 2===
==Quotes==
==Notes==
* Point 1
* Point 2
{{stargate-stub}}

Single-article episodes that are part of a multipart progression. In this case, episode 1 of 3:

{{Infobox Television episode | Title = Episode Title
| Series = [[Stargate SG-1]]
| Season = 1
| Episode = 1
| Airdate = [[Month ##]], [[Year]]
| Production = xxx
| Writer = [[Author]] and [[Author]]
| Director = [[Director]]
| Guests = Actor as [[Character]]<br /> Actor as [[Character]]
| Image = [[Image:Stargate SG-1 Season 8 Title.jpg|300px]]
| Episode list = [[List of Stargate SG-1 episodes|Episode chronology]]
| Prev = [[SG-1 Episode (Stargate SG-1)|SG-1 Episode]]
| Next = [[SG-1 Episode (Stargate SG-1)|SG-1 Episode]]
}}
{{TVep|Episode Title|Stargate SG-1|multipart=yes|part=1|join=of|parts=3}}
==Plot==
{{sgspoiler|1}}

==Quotes==

==Notes==
* Point 1
* Point 2
{{stargate-stub}}

[edit] Details

Do an intro at the start of the article. You can now use the {{TVep}} template, as below:

"Episode" is an episode of the science fiction television series Stargate SG-1. This and that happens in short.
{{TVep|Episode|Stargate SG-1}} This and that happens in short.

The TVep template is powerful, and can accomodate multipart episodes, pilots, finales, premieres, etc. See its page at {{TVep}} for more info on how to use it fully.

The sgspoiler template is also now a standard. It's already in use in normal SG articles but has been adopted for episode articles. Use {{sgspoiler|SEASON-NUMBER}} eg:

{{sgspoiler|7}} gives:

Spoiler warning: Plot and/or ending details for Stargate SG-1 Season 7 follow.

Include the infobox whether you can fill it out or not. Note the new field Episode list. This should always be set to [[List of Stargate SG-1 episodes|Episode chronology]], where the piping is essential. Put the infobox code first thing on the page. eg:

Stargate SG-1 episode
“Episode Title”
Episode no. Season 1
Episode 1
Guest star(s) Actor as Character
Actor as Character
Writer(s) Author and Author
Director Director
Production no. xxx
Original airdate Month ##, Year
Episode chronology
← Previous Next →
"SG-1 Episode" "SG-1 Episode"

Episode chronology

{{Infobox Television episode | Title = Episode Title
| Series = [[Stargate SG-1]]
| Season = 1
| Episode = 1
| Airdate = [[Month ##]], [[Year]]
| Production = xxx
| Writer = [[Author]] and [[Author]]
| Director = [[Director]]
| Image = [[Image:{screenshot_for_this_episode}|300px]] (this line is optional)
| Guests = Actor as [[Character]]<br /> Actor as [[Character]]
| Episode list = [[List of Stargate SG-1 episodes|Episode chronology]]
| Prev = [[SG-1 Episode (Stargate SG-1)|SG-1 Episode]]
| Next = [[SG-1 Episode (Stargate SG-1)|SG-1 Episode]]
}}

Leave fields empty if you don't know them. The Production field 'xxx' is always: :SeasonNumber:&:EpisodeNumber:, eg Season 8 Episode 19 & 20 has production numbers 819, 820.

The page structure should be as follows:

Plot

Spoiler warning: Plot and/or ending details for Stargate SG-1 Season 1 follow.
Part 1
Part 2

Quotes (if applicable)

Notes

  • Point 1
  • Point 2
==Plot==
{{spoiler}}
===Part 1===
===Part 2===
==Quotes==
==Notes==
* Point 1
* Point 2

Try to also include (add a new section if necessary) important info like if a new piece of technology is introduced, or a new race, or if there's controversy over the episode.

Put {{stargate-stub}} at the bottom if you don't fill out the details.



I have gone thru all two-part single titled episodes (Redemption, Evolution, Heroes, Reckoning, Moebius, Avalon and The Fourth Horseman, respectively) and added atleast an intro to the pages. I will be reising the work as I watch the episodes on DVD. Any contributions are certainly appreciated (except on The Fourth Horseman, which is unaired). - Mattathias

  • "==Part One==" and "==Part Two==" should only apply to a two-part episode on the same page (such as Reckoning, Moebius, Redemption, Avalon, etc). It wouldn't apply to single part episodes on a single page (such as Prometheus, Death Knell, Threads, The Nox, etc). -- Mattathias


I've abridged all the long summaries to bring them back under 3 lines. I tried to do this without removing any information but some needed fairly severe editing to reduce below the limit. If anybody has a problem with this - please discuss before reverting. - Trewornan

Does anybody else think episodes 217 and 218 have been swapped?

[edit] Splitting the article

This article is waaaaay too big and should be split into individual season guides. How should I phrase the title? List of Stargate SG-1 episodes: Season 1 etc.?--Zxcvbnm 01:49, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

The pictures slow down loading and the large size makes navigation hard. You have to split it, it's against Wikipedia guidelines.--Zxcvbnm 22:17, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
I loaded the page within 1.5 seconds. And my connection isn't that great. Even if it is slow for some users, it's not enough reason to ruin the article. Better a slow good article than a fast terrible one. Even with the slowest dial up connection possible, it would take longer to search 9 pages for the episode you want, than to load one big one. It would also be very annoying for users with good connections to have to search 9 pages instead of one. Also, what guideline is this article violating. I have read most of them, and i'm not sure what you are talking about. Tobyk777 00:58, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Article size for what I'm referring to. The article is waaay above any of the maximum article sizes.--Zxcvbnm 01:07, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Most of the "article size" in this article comes from the Wiki Markup. i.e. the page is actually full of {| |- | '''[[asd|43532]]''' ||| {|} ''asd''{| }|{|| | ||| asd|} and so on, when all that the above would show is "43532 asd asd", which is nothing. my point is that the article size limit is to stop pages having huge essays on them, nothing else. its also to worry about loadspeeds, but as has been shown (see below as well), this page loads very quickly even on a dialup modem, mainly because the pictures load after the text and structure and the page loads as your scroll down, so in effect it takes less than a few seconds to get the info you need. dont fix what isnt broken.-- Alfakim -- talk 16:15, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
1.) As has been pointed out, the style of this article conforms to that which is found in similiar articles.
2.) The Wikipedia:Article size page lists suggestions, nearly all of which are based on the (very dated) premise that the average World Wide Web user is utilising a version of a browser that is nearly a decade old. (not likely) There is no real technical reason to split the article, and as far as I can tell, there is no firm policy that regulates the size of this article. If there *is* one, please let us know. Wikipedia:Article size does not perform that function in this context.
3.) This article loads fine even with 56k v2 dialup. I just tested this using an old US Robotics external 56k v2 made in the late 1990s. Definitely a point in favour of keeping it as it is. If people start adding 600dpi .TIF files, then we can worry about the load time.
4.) In sum- why fix something that is not broken? This article is progressing nicely. The text is really not an issue- the pictures are what stalls the loading. That can be remedied a bit by resizing the originals- there are always other options to consider.
→ P.MacUidhir (t) (c) 11:59, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Disagree with a split up. Aside from the reasons already named, most people now a days use a web browser which loads images after the text parts or most of the text. As said before: Don't fix what is not broken. --SoWhy 17:19, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
    • Removed split-template as there seems no support for this proposal --SoWhy 19:28, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Wikipedia:Article size reads: "A rule of thumb for splitting articles, and combining small pages (tables, list-like sections and markup excluded)" notice lists are excluded from the 32k limit in that section and in the tire of reading section and as mentioned above the technical reasons are long gone Discordance 02:52, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2001 Screenshot

The Screenshot for the episode 2001 is from 2010. Philip Stevens 10:10, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

  • no its not, its from 2001, you just have to watch the episode closely and youll see it Xornok 06:20, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
  • I can only see it in the recap, does this count? Philip Stevens 20:47, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copy vio from gateworld

Hi I just noticed that on many of the summaries there is plagaurism from gateworld. Who is wrtiing these summaries? Tobyk777 03:06, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

the people from gateworld...... you just said it. as for who's coping them and transfering them, different people. i do it sometimes, just to give a basic outline until it can be rewritten. Xornok 03:08, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
It shouldn't really be a problem since the Gateworld site has been linked on both Stargate wiki and Satrgate SG-1 wiki. 12:52, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] fair use for images

it seems we may not get a featured list unless we explicitly tag every image used on this page as fair use (done), and provide an explicit rationale. So please help out by going to each image and adding this code:

==Rationale for fair use in [[List of Stargate SG-1 episodes]]==

{{fairusein|List of Stargate SG-1 episodes}}

This picture is being used in Wikipedia's episode listing for the television show
''[[Stargate SG-1]]'' ([[MGM]]). Although it is subject to copyright, the
[http://tools.wikimedia.de/~tim/counter/?hide_minor=on&page=List_of_Stargate_SG-1_episodes editors]
of Wikipedia, among them myself (~~~) in particular, feel that it is covered by [[US]]
[[fair use]] laws because:
* It is a low resolution still image;
* It does not limit the copyright owner's rights to sell the related product in any way

Further, we believe our use of the image is fair because it is not being used merely to
decorate the related article, but rather:
* Aids commentary on the plot outline;
* Poignantly illustrates the related episode

Particularly because:
* It illustrates a significant or unique moment in the episode

NOTE: change the last line as appropriate. To avoid being accused of blanket-fair-use, it's probably necessary to say individually for each image why we want to use it. So in each image's case, replace the last line with something that describes how the image is illustrative. For instance, an image of Daniel Jackson for the episode "Children of the Gods" might have this as the last line:

  • It illustrates the significant moment when the viewer, and the main characters, first meet with the character Daniel Jackson again.

-- Alfakim -- talk 15:10, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

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