Talk:List of Seinfeld episodes

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Contents 1 This list needs work 2 screenshots 3 misplaced episodes? 4 Superman 5 RE: Superman 6 Mistake in Season 2 Episode 1 7 Splitlong 8 Infobox 9 Episode titles 10 Episode Order

Maybe each episode can be listed with a brief discription of the episode, as is done with many other episode lists.

• I would be able to do up to Season 4 but someone would have to do the rest. Sfufan2005 14:27, August 7, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] This list needs work

I fixed the airdates for seasons 2 and about the first ten episodes of season 3, since they were ordered according to when they were produced rather then when they aired, but there's still a lot to do. Over 150 episodes need pages for themselves and the page itself doesn't look very attractive. I'm not going for a featured list, but it would be nice if the episode list for one of my favorite shows got cleaned up a little. I'll try to add as much as I can when I can, but anyone else's help would be cool, too. Zone46 03:20, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Why does it need a lot of work for? I mean I only changed the article to wikitables and added pictures but I think the pictures make it a lot more attractive. I'd be willing to help but you have to tell me what you think needs work. Sfufan2005 03:22, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Maybe I overreacted a little, but I guess I really mean that most episodes need their own pages. I don't really know much about Templates and the design of the list, but to me, the whole thing just doesn't stand out much. Anyway, that's just my opinion. Most of the pictures are great, but you can tell with some of them that someone just took a picture of the episode paused on their TV. Just look at the Puffy Shirt screenshot. Zone46 23:46, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah that one is pretty bad because I used my camera with that one. The first half of the Season 5 pictures are pretty bad (because they're blurry and have bad color) and that's my fault but I did the rest on my computer using the screen capture. I have to thank Grandstarx who did the remainder of the season photos which were of very good quality. Sfufan2005 23:53, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] screenshots

anybody like to include screen shots? most of the episode lists ive seen have 'em.--Jaysscholar 01:58, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

This is a requested feature based on the wikiproject. I doubt I'll find the time to do some of these but I hope a volunteer exists out there.--Will2k 03:02, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

I'd be willing to improve the article since I've done a lot of work on this page and for several others. Sfufan2005 03:04, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

I replaced the image from The Face Painter which looked really bad and like someone took a picture with their camera. I have a TV card and that episode was on tonight so I got a screengrab that was close to the picture that was there. Aster Placed 03:28, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] misplaced episodes?

all the episodes in season 2 are out of order according to airdate. why?

• Because they are in order of how they were shot according to the Seinfeld Vol 1 DVD. I'll add a production code section and fix those episodes later. Sfufan2005 21:01, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Superman

we should add where the superman references are in each episode. 12.216.227.60 01:20, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Not a good idea for the list, but if you want to add them in their individual articles feel free. Sfufan2005 02:43, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Episodes 124 and 125 desperately need a cleanup.

[edit] RE: Superman

I like the idea of including the reference to superman for each episode. One thought I had was putting it in the info box of each episode's page. They have done this with the simpsons for 1) Chalkboard and 2) Couch Gag

WBredefeld 21:50, 28 March 2006 (PST)

[edit] Mistake in Season 2 Episode 1

"Marlene then Jerry after seeing his act"

seems to be missing something 81.221.186.78 17:19, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for spotting that, I fixed it with the proper grammar. Sfufan2005 17:48, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Splitlong

I added the {{Splitlong}} tag to this article. It's monstrous!!! We're supposed to keep articles under 32 KB but this one has grown to 88 KB. Besides that, it has tons of little images! I've got a fast cable modem and this article takes a noticeable length of time to load. I can't imagine unfortunate folks on dial-up - it must take forever! There's no reason this can't be broken up into individual season articles with templates for navigating, etc. —Wknight94 (talk) 14:30, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Absoultely not, its better to keep the entire article on this page. Look at South Park's page and that is a featured article. No, I do not agree with a split merge. Plus this show isn't Lost meaning a continuous storyline and its all part of the Wiki TV project. The pictures I believe make the page seem better and less mundane compared to other "season" pages. I do not agree.Sfufan2005 14:45, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

The List of South Park episodes article also takes a while to load - and it has around 25 fewer images and is only 62 KB. They both need to be split IMHO but this one even more so. —Wknight94 (talk) 16:06, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

List articles should not be split it only makes them more difficult to find information just be patient with the page and please see WP:SIZE. "However, there are still stylistic reasons why an article should not be too long. For stylistic purposes, external links, further reading, references, see also, and similar sections; tables, list-like sections, and similar content; and markup, interwiki links, URLs and similar formatting should not be counted toward an article's total size since the point is to limit readable prose." Its a hard part of the style guide to find and WP:BREAK states readable text by which it presumably means again not tables and lists. The 32k limit is nowadays just used as an indicator as to when prose articles need sections breaking off. Unless you want the style guide changing please take down the tag. Discordance 18:06, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Feel free to take down the tag - but I'd advise hearing from someone who is stuck with dial-up. I'm not talking about style, I'm talking about dial-up folks waiting for anywhere from 20 seconds to several minutes when they first bring up this page. Seems cruel, esp. when it's unnecessary. —Wknight94 (talk) 18:55, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

When this has been brought up before a few dial-up users have said the pages are fine. Most browsers if not all load the page almost straight away with only the images taking their time, which can be viewed selectively if necessary. Discordance 10:45, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

My (other) dial-up computer works fine with this page. Cvene64 00:29, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox

What do people think of having the episode lists as a horizontal template at the bottm as opposed to being part of the infobox? My main reason for this is because the infobox in most articles is way longer than the actual text and looks kind of messy like that. Thoughts? Cvene64 09:00, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Nearly all other T.V. episode articles contain a vertical bar at the right and I don't think it would be a good idea to break convention. It would be better to expand the current episodes so the infobox isn't the longest anymore.--Will2k 14:26, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Episode titles

Has anyone noticed how a lot of (or most) of these episodes have "(Sienfeld episode)" after the title? A lot of times this is unneccesary because there is no other wikipedia article with the same name. I think some of them need to be changed/ --Ted87 04:37, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to start moving the ones tonight that have the (Seinfeld episode) that don't have a similar article name per Wikipedia:Wikiproject_Television_episodes#Naming and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television).Williamnilly 22:58, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Episode Order

Uh, it looks like this list is supposed to be in broadcast order (which it says it is), but some of the episodes are out of order (probably in production order). I'm going to try and fix this by putting them in broadcast order. - 68.37.125.87 15:55, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I think it is much better to have episodes in production order because this is how the writers intended them and often episodes reference things that happened in earlier episodes. If episodes are viewed in broadcast order, these references will not make sense. On the South Park episodes page, it was decided to put the episodes in production order for this very reason. HalfDome 04:24, 19 August 2006 (UTC)