Talk:List of PlayStation Portable games

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Contents 1 BBG? 2 Lists for PSP games 3 List Clean-up 4 Grand Theft Auto 5 Firmware Version 6 Command & Conquer? 7 Final Fantasy 9 8 Pokemon Stadium 3? 9 Passport to... 10 vice city stories 11 pokemon for psp i dont think so.

[edit] BBG?

Can anyone get a different link for BBG? it gives wrong article which is about some Botanic Garden...

depends what bbg stands for.

[edit] Lists for PSP games

Also, was the list for psp games with wi-fi deleted, because it's not there anymore. I think a better solution would be to have achart for each letter of psp games, where we could put an X under the features such as Ad-Hoc, infrastuctue, or game sharing. What template would be good, and does anyone else think that it would be a better idea rather than having a seperate list for each feature, or would this break the stus quo of other game lists? --Herzog 00:39, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

I think a 'pure' list is a good thing to have, but I think it would also be a good idea to have a "comparison of psp games" article. - James Foster 13:08, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

I thinnk one list would be a good idea that showed what minimum firmware it requires, what multiplayer modes it has etc.

If someone has lots of time on their hands, they might like to compare this list with Sony's list at: [1]. I've already spotted some games on Sony's list that were not on this one, and added them. - James Foster 14:08, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

I think only one list for ALL PSP games should be used. All the details of whether it's a wifi game or the like should be left in their respective article. If it's absolutely neccesary to list each game's feature on this list, than it should look something like the article showing a Comparison_of_container_formats. Ceros 15:39, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List Clean-up

This list serioursly in need of an update. TomS64 05:45, 17 Mar 2006 (UTC)

Yes it does. Added {{cleanup-list}} template. Also, each game must include at least one reference. Ceros 15:51, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

If I may ask, what needs cleaned up about it specifically? Yes, there's things to change, but what specifically warrants a clean-up tag? --Suttkus 04:24, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Every game on the list is unverified. That is why I posted the tag. Ceros 01:35, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Every game on the list is a link. Verification should occur in the article devoted to the game, not clutter up what is essentially a list of references to other articles. --Suttkus 13:48, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Please take a look at Wikipedia's official policy of verifiability. Yes, it would be much easier to click on each game and hope to find sources for the game there but not every game on this list has an article. People are left to determine whether the game actually exists or not. As far as cluttering goes, the idea I have for referencing each game goes something like this list. If anyone can think of a better way to do the referencing feel free to contribute. Ceros 14:33, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't see anything in the verifiability standard that requires the verification to be on a list page. I agree that not every game having an article is a problem, but I see that as the problem, not the lack of a reference here. Each game should have an article (even if only a stub) and it should include a link to a source verifying it's existance. This should more than suffice for the verification standard.

The List of PlayStation 1 games is certainly better formatted than this list overall, but the references are obscure and confusing. If you hadn't given me the link in the context of providing examples of such references, I wouldn't have had a clue why the seemingly random link was being presented after the name of the games. A column for official sites would be better, but those don't exist for many older games (not such a problem for the PSP (yet), but consistency with other such lists is a worthy goal).

And, if your complaint is about references, wouldn't a "This page does not cite it's sources" be a better Request-for-work box at the top?

So, we have a difference of opinion. Anyone else want to weigh in? --Suttkus 14:55, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Let me add that I consider this page not so much an article as a glorified category page. Category pages neither have nor need sources; they provide links to articles that provide sources. The only thing this page should be above a simple category page is better formatted (which, currently, isn't, but that's another issue). --Suttkus 16:45, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, here's the List guideline for Wikipedia. You still have to cite the sources in some way for each entry, otherwise others can challege whether an entry is true or not. The best example for any list for console games is the List of Virtual Boy games which is a featured list on Wikipedia. They cite their sources although it didn't have to be a reference for each game since Nintendo published an official list of all games for the virtual boy.

For links, I discussed in the talk page for the List of PlayStation 1 games that it would be better to just have an arrow next to each game to point to a link, and then have all sites that was used be referenced at the bottom. If anyone has a different or better way to do the referencing, please discuss on the talk pages.

I suppose the {{unreferenced|article}} tag could have been used. This list still requires a cleanup regardless.

Categories and lists are different in Wikipedia. This list is not a category of any form nor is it intended to be one. This list is a list for the advantages they have over categories. Ceros 17:25, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, then I'll take my discussion to List guideline before deciding it's not worth arguing over.  :-) --Suttkus 05:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grand Theft Auto

Added: Grand Theft Auto (taking the biscuits mod) by Rockstar games.

[edit] Firmware Version

Is it such a good idea to add the required firmware version numbers after the games? There's a handful of games with the version numbers affixed, but why certain games and not all games?

Kelvinhole 12:54, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah we need to remove thie: The whole thing with firmware is that firmware can't run Emulation since Emulating is illegal it would be against Wikipedia policy to provide such information about what needs what to run, plus it just looks sloppy.Deathawk 01:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

As it happens, I agree so I've removed the firmware requirements. --Doc711 17:04, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Command & Conquer?

Mainly because this excites me, but I can't find any info on it regarding the PSP... link?

[edit] Final Fantasy 9

Why the hell is "Final Fantasy IX - Square Enix (TBC)" on this list. There hasn't even been 1 rumor of this. There is a FF7-Core crisis, but NO FF9. THIS IS WRONG.

[edit] Pokemon Stadium 3?

Have my eyes deceived me or is there a Pokemon game listed as a PSP title? And it's being developed by 'Konami/Rare'?

There's something fishy about this... can't put my finger on it, but I don't like it. --Grimgerde 20:49, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Passport to...

I broke up the entry for "Passport to..." into separate titles. The former entery linked to the cities rather than to the video game articles (which, so far, do not exist).

I'm not familiar with the series, but it might be better to make a single article on the series as a whole.--Suttkus 14:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] vice city stories

i added vice city stories

[edit] pokemon for psp i dont think so.

Pokemon for psp that will never happen did i menchin that pokemon IS NINTENDO ONLY EXPLAN!