Talk:List of Jewish prayers and blessings

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Contents 1 Structure of page 2 VfD debate link 2.1 Birkat ha-Mazon 3 {{Torah portion}} 4 Many missing brachot 5 Transliteration

[edit] Structure of page

This page is rather poorly structured. The alternative would be to include the integral text of havdalah, which would lead to significant overlap. Any ideas, opinions etc.? JFW | T@lk 09:22, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] VfD debate link

This article has been kept following this VFD debate. Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:15, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Birkat ha-Mazon

The grace after meals [bentsch] is missing -- I think it's rather important.

It has its own article -- Birkat Hamazon -- so no need for more than a short mention and a link here. --Shirahadasha 23:11, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {{Torah portion}}

{{Torah portion}} does not belong on this page; it's irrelevant (and too long btw).—msh210℠ 19:11, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

• Hi msh: (1) List of Jewish prayers and blessings and the weekly Torah reading of the Parsha (Torah portion) are all part of the weekly Torah readings on Monday and Thursday morning Shacharit services, as well as during the services on Shabbat. (2) The template {{Torah portion}} is at the bottom of the List of Jewish prayers and blessings article's page, so essentially it's part of the "See also" section which is a legitimate way of connecting related and connected topics on an article. (3) If a reader finds the {{Torah portion}} to be "too intrusive" then any reader is free to click "Hide" on the top right section of the template's heading which shrinks it to an unobtrusive one liner. Finally, (4) the {{Torah portion}} is presently diligently updated weekly by User:Dauster early each Sunday so that any readers may learn more about the weekly Parsha. User:Dauster summarizes each week's Parsha and adds some interesting graphics which surely adds life and color to a page that may gain the attention of readers who don't know much about this subject and may want to learn more. Please refer all further comments and discussions to one centralized location at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#Template: Torah portion Thank you. IZAK 06:46, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Many missing brachot

Birkat Hatorah is very important; I think it should definately be on this page. In addition, there are quite a number of other brachot that we make frequently, like birchot haroeh, birchot hanehenin, birchot hashachar and pesukei d'zimra; and many that we make less often like kiddush levana, bris millah, nisu'in, megilla, and nacheim, to name a few. I also agree that the whole page needs some major restructuring. --Geshmakster 18:39, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Complete services (as distinct from individual brachot) should probably have their own article or be part of Jewish services rather than belonging on this page. New articles on birchot hashachar, pesukei d'zimra, kiddush levana, etc. are needed and your creating and authoring even a short article on them would be very helpful. Some articles (e.g. Brit milah already exist under a different spelling. Shabbat Shalom, --Shirahadasha 21:12, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Concerning some articles, I feel that it is more useful to write new articles from an Orthodox-only point of view. The interference (no insult intended) of Reformism in these things is too difficult. --Daniel575 10:16, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Creating new articles with an Orthodox-only point of view (as opposed to ensuring that the Orthodox POV is accurately and proportionately represented) might be a problem given the WP:POV fork policy. See WP:NPOV. Have you considered using the wikimedia facilities to start an Orthodox-only wiki-based encyclopedia? That way all articles could be from an Orthodox-only POV. --Shirahadasha 16:15, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Transliteration

What looks more readable: Barukh atah Adonai, Elohaynu, melekh ha-olam, asher kid'shanu b'meetzvotav v'tzeevanu l’had’lik ner shel hanukah or Baruch atah Adonai, Eloheinu, melekh ha-olam, asher kideshanu b'mitzvotav vetzivanu lehadlik ner shel chanukah Tell me. --Daniel575 08:45, 24 July 2006 (UTC)