Talk:List of Italo Disco artists
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[edit] List of italo disco artists
Looks like somebody's peculiar joke. Almost none of the artists in the list has a WP article and the few active links are either non-Italian, non-disco or non-people (i.e. koto) --LeeHunter 22:36, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- I don't think that it's a joke. at least I know that Italo Disco isn't a joke. I have heard of it before. I don't know anything about it though and the information could be incorrect. I believe that this is a subject that we could have a list on. - Jeltz talk 23:29, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, many of the artists listed are not notable, furthermore many of the links in the list link to empty/non-existant articles. Megan1967 00:24, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- That's an argument for cleanup, not deletion. Keep. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:44, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)
- There are less than a handful of actual articles on this list. Empty links do not count. There is no valid reason to set up a list like this with so few listings. If you are really keen to see them listed, list them under a Italo subheading on another prexisting disco list. There is no need to create an entirely new list Megan1967 01:05, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- See my note below. At least two of the artists on the list (the two I looked at at random) are very notable in their field, with hit records to their names. Grouping them as Italo Disco artists is useful in view of the size of this particular field. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 01:54, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Doesn't matter about size, until there is a substantial number of actual artist articles, there is no justification to create a seperate new list for them. Empty links dont count. Megan1967 03:23, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- That's an argument for cleanup, not deletion. Keep. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:44, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)
- If there is enough italo disco artists that are notable then the list should be kept otherwise the (then pretty short) list of artist belongs in the main article and this list is useless. - Jeltz talk 01:08, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Keep this, it can grow into something way helpful. What's more, this sort of list is just the thing for bands who aren't notable enough for a WP article of their own yet, but who are active in the genre. Wyss 02:35, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Keep I know nothing of this genre, so I checked. A few google searches on a couple of the the people on the list, Alisha and Gazebo, chosen at random, suggests they do exist and are notable enough in their field to be listed on Wikipedia.
- A reader/reviewer on Amazon says this on Alisha:
- All Night Passion charted at #3, US club charts, April 1984
- Baby Talk #1, US club charts, March 1986
- Gazebo, Italian/American this site says he had hits with (amongst others):
- Masterpiece (1982) missed #1 in Italian charts "by a whisker"
- I like Chopin (1983) "number one in Italy and 15 other countries that sold eight million copies around the world and contributed to the popularity of the nascent Italo-dance style."
- To summarise, these two artists check out and sold oodles of records that people still talk about and play now. I expect the same would be true of at least some of the others. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 02:47, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- A reader/reviewer on Amazon says this on Alisha:
- Keep, italo disco is a very notable genre. bbx 09:44, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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- Well, I'm glad it didn't get deleted. The list has grown much and is linked correctly now. This is a very good resource for people looking up Italo artists and their accompanying songs. - Milk 03:44, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Telex Italo?
- 'Telex' with 'moscow discow' ??? isn't that italo disco too ? belgian eurovision pride :-D 81.83.179.32
- This French Electro song isn't Italo Disco at all ! Vorash 09:47, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] general
Please don't add an artist without listing one of their songs too. Also, there are some songs listed with the year next to them, but to be consistent we should either do that to all of them or none. I don't think it's very necessary, but either way is fine. The list is getting super long now, I never would have thought there was so much italo. - Milk 00:50, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Vorash, "The Chase" isn't dance music? What are you talking about? Of course it is. You need to add it back. Again I remind you that you even listed it under the Italo article as one of the first Italo songs, by legendary producer Girogio Moroder. Also, I haven't heard the other songs by Transvolta, but at least the one listed "Disco Computer" has a disco beat, with lots of synths/effects and vocoders, so it should be listed here too, so please add it back as well. - Milk 23:16, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
"Disco Computer" has a disco beat??? Are you saying that Italo and Electro are the same. If so you should also add another 300 artists like Telex and Kraftwerk. Also Alisha's bass line in "Baby Talk" is very similar to Madonna's "Into the Groove" , (because they are both from New York), so we probably should add Madonna too and another 300 US dance artists from 80s together with her, according too this logic. Italo disco article defines Italo as a style of electronic dance music'. According to dance music article "Dance music is music composed, played, or both, specifically to accompany social dancing." The "Chase" is not a music for social dancing, it's a theme for a movie. I don't have any problem with this song specifically, but we have 100s of songs like this one (for example "Alpha"(1976) of Vangelis is also "Italo") and it's impossible to add all these songs here.Vorash 23:51, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
We should define a policy for additions to this list, otherwise it will grow to some "Monstrous" thing with 1000 dance 80s artists from all around the world.Vorash 15:39, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
There are many movie themes that are also dance songs, look at Saturday Night Fever. Just because it was made for a movie doesn't mean you can't dance to it. That is so retarded to come to that conlcusion. "The Chase" is an electronic dance song, so add it back. Italo and electro have many common ties/elements but they are not the same thing. But some artists could be considered a little of both, like "Spacer Woman" for example. With Alisha, she doesn't sound like Italo exactly. I think she should just be considered 80's synth-pop, but I'll let that go. As far as guidelines to adding to the list, I haven't seen a problem yet except for your subtractions of "The Chase" and "Disco Computer", and earlier you also mentioned Kraftwerk, Madonna, and Vangelis in the Italo article. So the problem your describing sounds a lot like yourself. As I've said you seemed to be going through the article and list, and taking out things you think aren't correct. If anything you should check other websites first, then ask here so you can get feedback. Don't just go deleting things to make it fit your view. - Milk 02:14, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Updates
Many people have added dozens of artists and a few of them are not really considered italo. Stacey Q for example and most of Bobby Orlando's productions are more Hi-NRG/80's pop. I think we need to be a bit more critical of additions. My personal method is if I have seen the artist listed as being italo on several other websites and if I've heard their songs, then I can add them. Also, people have added 5 or 6 songs under some artists. I feel this list should be a little more simplified and have only 2 or 3 of the artist's 'well known' songs, so as not to clutter the page. Milk 17:13, 31 May 2006 (UTC)