Talk:List of House episodes
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[edit] Episode Synopses
I'm concerned with these synopses' provenance; they are, in a stunning display of irony, too good. If someone wants to take credit for them, and say they're original (they're uneven: some of them are clearly original, some read like they came out of TV Guide), fine. Otherwise, I guess I'll buckle down and rewrite them.
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- Good call, plugging the long ones into google quickly shows they're copied. --W(t) 01:34, 2005 Jun 1 (UTC)
- I just made some spelling/grammar corrections to this article before seeing the comments. If you'd like to split the job of rewriting the summaries, I'd be happy to help. I'll check back here.--64.203.152.181 14:34, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Spoiler material - How should it be treated (if at all posted). This is speficially referring to Season 2's final episode, which was had a twist that the current summery doesn't quite sum up.--AlphaTwo 14:50, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
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- Here's what I think: short summaries on this page make it like a list format similar to List of Lost episodes or List of South Park episodes. Then place the other episodes in either own articles or on a season page whichever the consensus prefers. Minor spoilers are fine in my opinion but especially with last night's you don't want to be too revealing...that's for the other page. Also, I'm looking for pictures however FOX only starts with 206 which is just half of a season. Sfufan2005 20:32, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Is anybody doing anything with this? Season 2's finale reads as a plot summary, while the other episodes read as a brief description, similar to what you may find in TV Guide or under an "Info" sort've thing from your cable provider. Tim 05:00, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
"I'm concerned with these synopses' provenance; they are, in a stunning display of irony, too good." - I disagree. They are all separate articles and therefore deserve any and all information related to the episode, as long as the information is factual, NPOV, and formulaic. SousaFan88 07:17, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Spoilers again. I thought the synopses were pretty good. Actually, I thought they were dry, tv-guide type descriptions of the set up. So I was quite happy to check the name of episode five. Only to find myself spoiled for it. Maybe it's a minor part of the final solution (I hope so), but it was still a shock. I don't think that any part of the 'solution' shoul be in the summaries. Sex Kills is a much better example. RoseWill220.253.28.60 07:54, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] TWoP
Why is there a TWOP recap link to every episode summary? My objection to TWOP is that they don't allow any feedback or commentary on their recaps (apart from "great recap") and more often than not they aren't really recaps of the episodes but an extended gripe or lovefest by the author. There's really no attempt to recount what happened in any particular episode. I've looked for a rationale of why TWOP is being promoted so heavily here but I couldn't find one. As a wikipedia user I would much prefer to see, at most, one link indicating that more episode information can be found at that site. Since there is already a link on the main page maybe no additional link is needed at all. Actinium 18:53, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
- I wouldn't object to linking to other site's recaps for the eps, too, if there were workable direct links to such recaps (as long as things didn't get out of hand). I *do* think we ought to cut our *own* episode pages, though, and unlink the titles in the table. Votes?
Seriously, is there some sort of kickback that someone is getting for including so many TWOP links? Part of the way the reviewers or recappers is paid is based on traffic, traffic which Wikipedia is strangely just handing to them. They are making money because someone has turned Wikipedia traffic into TWOP traffic. It seems wrong and it affects adversely Wikipedia's credibility. Why not just use one link at the bottom of the page?
- What happened to the tv.com links? I think tv.com is far far better than the TWoP links. --antilived trash vandal results 11:06, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Music
If anyone has time, I think it would be nice to add what music is featured in each episode... that is one of the most searched-for pieces of info regarding this show, and is very encyclopedic. I'll try to start adding some soon 69.142.21.24 09:29, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- That is a VERY good idea, I'm going to start going through episodes 1-8 to try to figure out what songs are used. Jules su 1:45, 7 March 2006 (PST)
- Cool idea, since there is almost commerical music in every episode. Sfufan2005 20:54, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- Hmmm, I'm having trouble figureing out which music is commercial and which isn't. I assumed that all the background soft stuff was done for the show, as I haven't recognized any of it. Jules su 13:10, 7 March 2006 (PST)
- Yeah, that's definitely all score. The composer should be in the credits. But the music people recognize (i.e. One is the Loneliest Number in Occam's Razor) is what should be featured in the episode guide. Sfufan2005 22:11, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- Cool idea, since there is almost commerical music in every episode. Sfufan2005 20:54, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- Hey great idea, if you go to IMDB you can find the soundtrack listing for each episode, but this requires going to each episode's page and clicking 'soundtrack'. Also you can check out the official Fox website. Patriarch 08:05, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] IMDB summaries
The summaries on IMDB are very similar to the ones on Wikipedia. Can anyone verify which came first? Jules su 19:27, 12 March 2006 (PST)
[edit] Skipped episode?
Why do the episode labels skip from 2-16 to 2-18? (overall 38 to 40) Where is episode 2-17, #39? Mistake?
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- Yeah, that was a mistake on my behalf. Fixed it so everything should be fine now. Sfufan2005 21:51, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Need a list of medical terms used in the show
For the laymen, the dialog in the show just flew by without even knowing what all the medical terminologies really mean or how they are spelled. It would be useful to create a list of medical terms used in the show and cross reference them to this list of episodes. The wiki-links of these terms can help viewers read further about those terminologies, and add some educational value to the show. A less attractive alternative is to add those terms in this list along with each entry, but they may turn into spoilers for those who have not seen the episode yet. For example, mentioning tick paralysis would spoil this week's episode. IMO, it is better to have a separate list because some procedures and terms were used frequently in many episodes. Perhaps the list can be divided into symptoms, tests, treatment etc. Kowloonese 19:10, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
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- In my opinion, that sort of unnessesary. I mean, it's not like adding music, which many people would want to know. Most of the medical terms are either explained in the show, or are shown (i.e. lumbar puncture) It's entirely too much work and just doesn't seem to fit in.jules_su 10:25, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
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- Considering the fact that a good amount of the medical terminology used on the show is innaccurate or complete BS (particularly in the earlier shows) it seems really unnecessary. It's better just to go with the show's logic, and try to pick things up by context.
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I think the pages for the episodes themselves can list the medical terminology in the plot summaries, where spoilers are going to be assumed. There are some episodes with pages already, but I can go through and add the rest in a couple of weeks time. RoseWIll220.253.28.60 08:05, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] the chart format is ugly
is it supposed to look like that, with the broken horizontal chart? Can someone who is better with chart formatting than me clean this up a bit? 69.142.21.24 07:36, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
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- I suggest keeping the chart however adding photos and making it look similar to other lists like List of Prison Break episodes or List of Grey's Anatomy episodes. Also, the summaries on this page should be about 1-2 lines with lengthier episode summaries on either season pages or individual episode pages. I just wanted to suggest this to other editors to gain feedback. Any suggestions? Sfufan2005 00:46, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- WikiProject List of Television Episodes might be able to help :) The project is still getting back up to speed, but you can find some very good advice via Template:Episode list and Template talk:Episode list. Hope that helps. -- Ned Scott 06:46, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Did a quick fix on the DVD cover Chart. It should look a little bit more like the charts on other pages. A few other questions for those better at this kind of thing than I. Shouldn't the episode chart be seperated into Seasons 1 and 2? Also, what is the Second number under the Episodes part for?
- WikiProject List of Television Episodes might be able to help :) The project is still getting back up to speed, but you can find some very good advice via Template:Episode list and Template talk:Episode list. Hope that helps. -- Ned Scott 06:46, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- I suggest keeping the chart however adding photos and making it look similar to other lists like List of Prison Break episodes or List of Grey's Anatomy episodes. Also, the summaries on this page should be about 1-2 lines with lengthier episode summaries on either season pages or individual episode pages. I just wanted to suggest this to other editors to gain feedback. Any suggestions? Sfufan2005 00:46, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Links to relevent titles?
Some of the titles of episodes contain refrences that I think ought to be linked to. For example, "Occam's Razor" and "Socratic Method" should be linked to the respective articles somwhere. Having the titles themselves be links seems out of place, so I'll be bold and add links as "see also—Link" Ce1984 21:01, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Music Removed?
For some reason, all the music was removed from the first season, for seemingly no reason. I'm assuming it's vandalism, and I'm putting it back.
All the music is already liste on the individula episode pages--Dr. Zaius 13:13, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
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- So what? People who are looking for music are not going to search each and every episode page for it. I have not seen any discussion or input from anyone.--Jules su 17:46, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- I agree with having the music on individual pages. This has been discussed in the past on several episode pages prior. Keeping a short synopsis on this page makes it more neater and organized as opposed to lists with long summaries and trivia bits. A full summary, music and trivia sections should be on the individual pages. If the person is looking for music, I'm pretty sure they will make an effort to find it on these respective pages. This is not meant to be an inconvenience or a personal attack, its just intended for neatness purposes. Sfufan2005 01:45, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- Alright, sounds reasonable.--Jules su 23:50, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- I agree with having the music on individual pages. This has been discussed in the past on several episode pages prior. Keeping a short synopsis on this page makes it more neater and organized as opposed to lists with long summaries and trivia bits. A full summary, music and trivia sections should be on the individual pages. If the person is looking for music, I'm pretty sure they will make an effort to find it on these respective pages. This is not meant to be an inconvenience or a personal attack, its just intended for neatness purposes. Sfufan2005 01:45, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- So what? People who are looking for music are not going to search each and every episode page for it. I have not seen any discussion or input from anyone.--Jules su 17:46, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Plot synopsis for future episodes
It was my impression that the policy regarding future episode synopsis are that they are added only after the episode airs. It's supposed to help maintain the integrity of the page. Am I mistaken? --MZMcBride 03:08, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
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- No, you are correct. Also, the synopses on this page should be shorter which are expected to be expanded in the individual articles. Sfufan2005 03:24, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- In order to allow no speculation, crystal-balling, or future plot reveals that most people have no way of knowing, I've made the plot synopsis for future episodes hidden and added a line about when they should be added (once the episode airs). Thanks. --MZMcBride 02:24, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
- Sounds reasonable enough, however it seems like someone removed all the hidden plot summaries. Chad Hennings 04:41, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
- In order to allow no speculation, crystal-balling, or future plot reveals that most people have no way of knowing, I've made the plot synopsis for future episodes hidden and added a line about when they should be added (once the episode airs). Thanks. --MZMcBride 02:24, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
- No, you are correct. Also, the synopses on this page should be shorter which are expected to be expanded in the individual articles. Sfufan2005 03:24, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Individual Episode Pages
Everyone of the episode pages needs work. There are no cites, extended plots, and information that is best left out all together. Whoever is monitoring this page and those pages should read this Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Television episodes. This is the policy created to establish guidelines for episode pages. If you do not have well referenced material try developing Seasonal pages until you do. Bignole 12:51, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Next airdate in a month?
Episode #3.15 is stated as being aired on October 31st, why is it skipping a month? Error? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by AS Artimour (talk • contribs).
- Baseball. Won't be back on until after the World Series.--MZMcBride 01:41, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Reformatting
This entire list and it's episode articles it links too, needs to be reformatted. Most the episodes are not notable enough to require there own articles, all except the Pilot (House) article which I've reformatted and have nominated it for FA. Beyond that, the episode articles are filled with bloated Plot Overviews and filled with lists of useless trivia. They should all be merged into this article and rewritten with comprehensive synopsis as most of the other information can either be merged or deleted. Might I add, that "Referback" is not even a word, yet it appears in almost every House episode article. The Filmaker 17:38, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Episodes Nomination for Deletion
- What happened to all the episodes? Were they deleted? I think this could've been worked out without having to be deleted. That's just my opinion. Sfufan2005 20:40, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- It appears that they were deleted on October 30 due to copyvio issues. --MZMcBride 22:09, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
You've gotta be kidding. MacintoshApple
Copyright violation for quotes, for stealing summaries, or just for describing the plots? Because I'm willing to write up my own summaries of the plots and find the references and everything, but not if it's going to be deleted again. RoseWill220.253.28.60 08:09, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merry Little Christian? or Christmas
I think there's a bit of confusion with the upcoming Christmas episode of House. The original title was Christian however I have found 2 very reliable sources TV.com, IMDB episode entry and TheFutonCritic which releases press notices from FOX, the network and if they say it's Merry Little Christmas, it's Christmas. I would appreciate if the revert warring would stop since I've found only one site that backs up "Merry Little Christian" which is a fan site which should never be taken as an official source since fan sites are most likely to be filled with speculation and fancruft and not official information. Feel free to leave comments. Sfufan2005 21:47, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- Well, when I cited my two sources (TV.com and some other one) a couple days ago, they both read Merry Little Christian. I moved the page accordingly. I hate it when sources change their information :(. (By the way, was there an edit war going on? I only changed the title and moved the page once.) PullToOpen - talk 22:08, 2 December 2006 (UTC)