Talk:List of DirecTV channels

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This article was nominated for deletion on November 7, 2006. The result of the discussion was keep.

For the discussion from 29 March to 1 September, see Archive 1.

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Contents 1 MHD 2 Why does this article exist? 3 "Potential Channel Conflict" 4 Channels 0 and 1

[edit] MHD

Is MHD not carried yet, or will it be carried? --myselfalso 22:15, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

It's been "coming soon" for heaven knows how long. Supposedly D* is getting ready to add something like 100+ national HD channels, but I'll believe it when I see it. --Mhking 01:39, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why does this article exist?

Why is this article here? It's a clear violation of WP:NOT:

	Wikipedia is not a directory of everything that exists or has existed. Wikipedia articles are not: ... Directories, directory entries, TV/Radio Guides, or a resource for conducting business. ... Wikipedia is not the yellow pages. See Yellowikis for a project with that goal.
	— Wikipedia is NOT

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I will nominate this article for deletion. /Blaxthos 10:00, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

I think this is a complete misinterpretation of the idea. Read the whole section.

	Directories, directory entries, TV/Radio Guides, or a resource for conducting business. For example, an article on a radio station generally should not list upcoming events, current promotions, phone numbers, schedules etc., although mention of major events or promotions may be acceptable. Furthermore, the Talk pages associated with an article are for talking about the article, not for conducting the business of the topic of the article. Wikipedia is not the yellow pages. See Yellowikis for a project with that goal.
	— WP:NOT

There is nothing in that that says that you can't have a list of the channels a service provider has. It simply says that you can't list the shows that each channel has in the day. The logical idea would be to merge it with DirecTV, but that's insane. There's no way to shorten it, and as DirecTV adds more channels, it's going to grow bit by bit. To simply throw this article for deletion within 5 days is also rediculous, I might add. I didn't even know you posted on here on 4 November; for whatever reason, this talk page didn't show up in my Watchlist. AfD would've been easier; the AfD box is easy to use--at least it has a link to the deletion discussion. --myselfalso 09:09, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

This article started out as a part of the DirecTV article, and was separated out once it was realized simply how large the list was; a similar situation occurred with the corresponding Dish Network channel list article. The only other option here actually would be to remerge it with the corresponding articles, but once again, we would be faced with an insanely long article in each case. --Mhking 14:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

And such would be the case with all other lists that has been nominated. As it is, its very hard just to keep these list short on their own.TravKoolBreeze 19:10, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Upon further review, I think that a lot of the confusion regarding this article came because, in its current format, with the channels listed it looks like nothing more than TV listings. TV listings would not be appropriate for an encyclopedia. However, I think this article could be a great start for a "Category:Networks Available on DirecTV" or something of the sort. 00:32, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Potential Channel Conflict"

There's no possibility of conflict for channels from 70-99; the FCC has stated that no channels that high will be used for digital signals. Not only that, but they will actually eliminate channels between 60 and 69 once their analog counterparts are vacated. --Mhking 16:36, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Read Virtual channel. 1-99, including 37 and 52-99, are available as virtual channels in ATSC. Maybe that's what you mean. Shin'ou's TTV (Futaba|Masago|Kotobuki) 20:48, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Channels 0 and 1

These channels do not exist. 69.14.91.127 05:36, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

The channels do exist on some HD model tuners, as noted in the entry. --Mhking 06:07, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

If they do, and I have never seen them myself, they are simply "pretend" channels found only on obsolete receivers. They are not broadcast from the 110W satellite like the entry states, and the current HD receivers do not show either channel. 69.14.91.127 18:56, 11 December 2006 (UTC)